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Congratulations, Alabama!

Congratulations, Alabama!

My heartfelt congratulations to the citizens of Alabama. Only 48% of you voted for a suspected child molester, and were willing to put him in direct contact with teen-aged pages who serve the members of Congress.

SCCRENDO | 13. joulukuu 2017

@Nomopetrol. +100. It is a learning experience. However if we can see small changes in places like Alabama there is hope for the rest of the country. Perhaps at some point congress will even address the molester in chief

RedShift | 13. joulukuu 2017

‘We should leave this to god now, this is not over’ - Roy Moore who didn’t concede immediately.

Wait - I am getting a call.

Hello? Yeah...hmm, I see.

Hey Roy? It’s god calling me. He says to please concede, and not bother him anymore. :-)

Rocky_H | 13. joulukuu 2017

Yeah, I mean on the one hand, "yay" for the win, but holy crap, half of the people in the state would rather vote for a racist pedophile than a Democrat.

KP in NPT | 13. joulukuu 2017

Yay for the win but SHAME on the white voters who overwhelmingly voted for him. Alabama hasn't changed at all. The only reason Jones won is because republican attempts at suppressing the black vote weren't good enough.

rxlawdude | 13. joulukuu 2017

One of my favorite memes is "God answers all prayers. But most of the time, the answer is NO!"

Tesla-David | 13. joulukuu 2017

Great win, but share the concern expressed by others about white male voters. Disgusting that they would prefer a child molester over a man who actually prosecuted the KKK killers of the 4 young black girls in Birmingham.

KP in NPT | 13. joulukuu 2017

@Tesla-David - it was female white voters, too! Not as high as males, but still overwhelming support. which is even more amazing. Women ok with a man who molests little girls, not to mention return us back to the 1950s. (or earlier.)

Tesla-David | 13. joulukuu 2017

Thanks @KP in NPT, I stand corrected. ;0)

carlk | 13. joulukuu 2017

Nomopetrol. Lol.. Greatest political post I've seen for a while.

jpcollins9 | 13. joulukuu 2017

As an Alabamian who not only voted for Doug Jones but provided a small amount of assistance in his campaign (some money, some phone calls, and lots of willingness to explain to my republican friends why they were wrong) the push back I got wasn't that they were voting FOR Roy Moore as it was they WOULDN'T vote democrat. Fortunately, enough decided that a Moore vote was so unconscionable that they wrote in someone else. Based on the numbers, it looks like those republicans were the difference makers. It helped that Doug Jones is a really decent person with a wealth of experience and a willingness to work toward bi-partisan ideas. As a former Washington state resident, I also think Patty Murray is a force to help congress come out of the fog.

Rocky_H | 13. joulukuu 2017

The other weird thing in this was how huge the write-in votes were. They made up the margin of victory. The write-in percentage is never worth even mentioning in any other election; it's some tiny fraction of a percent. In this one it was 1.5%!!!! I think that represents some of the Republicans with a conscience, who really didn't want to vote for a Democrat, but could not bring themselves to actually vote for Roy Moore. That's my theory, but if it's the case, I thank them.

carlgo2 | 13. joulukuu 2017

Hmmm, Jones...not too old, has meaningful accomplishments and qualifications. Got out the minority voters, women (remember how women were all going to vote for Hillary?), got some kids to put down their iKraks and actually vote, got cross-overs and independents...could actually win the South, or much of it.

Sent Bannon back to his cardboard bed under the overpass with a bottle of Everclear his only companion.

Anyone else who can do this?

NoMoPetrol | 13. joulukuu 2017

@ carlgo2: Let's not get too giddy over one special election. We are still up against a nation of deeply divided realities. Each side is absolutely convinced that the other side's news sources are "fake". One side's critical issue is the other side's BS. Impartial voices of reason a la Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow were buried a few decades ago. Our Congress, as if on cue, has turned into a caricature of the Roman Senate in the last days of the Roman Empire - petty squabbles over minor issues while the Visigoths are sacking the capital.

Thankfully, I can turn off the TV and use a little more OptiClean on my silver beauty in the garage to pacify the distress of the current political situation.

Remnant | 14. joulukuu 2017

@Rocky_H (December 13, 2017)

<< The other weird thing in this was how huge the write-in votes were. They made up the margin of victory. The write-in percentage is never worth even mentioning in any other election; it's some tiny fraction of a percent. In this one it was 1.5%!!!! I think that represents some of the Republicans with a conscience, who really didn't want to vote for a Democrat, but could not bring themselves to actually vote for Roy Moore. >>

You might be right, but the result has been to feed Moore's opportunity for a recount, which might upend Doug Jones' victory and morph it into a More's one.

NoMoPetrol | 14. joulukuu 2017

@ Remnant

The Hanging Chad Syndrome all over again.

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

@Remnant. Dream on. No recount. The shift in Alabama was great news to the sane civilized world. But I guess you can take some comfort that 48% of your kind still voted for a serial pedophile

KP in NPT | 14. joulukuu 2017

The only shift was a sliver of decent human beings who decided voting for a pedophile was worse than voting for a democrat - but still couldn't vote for the democrat so wrote in someone else.

carlgo2 | 14. joulukuu 2017

Compared to the blowout win Moore would normally have had, winning by a sliver really involved a bigger shift than that.

Sure, the divisions are still there but if the alternative is made less unattractive there is less of the hysteria.

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

@carlgo2. One can only hope. And the Alabama shift was meaningful. However I am still disturbed that 48 % of the Alabama voters were prepared to vote for a serial pedophile. That we have a serial sex offender in Oval Office is a disgrace and reflects poorly on the electorate. Roy Moore would not be allowed to live within 1000 ft of a school in California.

MitchP85D | 14. joulukuu 2017

None of you Sanctimonious Socialist Turds here believed Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. So, what makes you believe the accusers of Trump and Moore? Let's see, I think the answer is intuitively obvious!

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

The "whatabout" defense. Yes we do do believe Clinton's accusers. However the Clinton Family have left town. Are you guys still trying to impeach them??? More recent concern was Moore that has been addressed. Noe it is Trump's turn.
Welfare-Mitch. You need to watch this
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/john-oliver-breaks-down-trumps-dang...

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

If you don't want to listen to it all this is the segment on whataboutism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vpBrKcr0U

Rocky_H | 14. joulukuu 2017

@MitchP85D, [almost] Quote: "None of you [...] here believed Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. So, what makes you believe the accusers of Trump and Moore? Let's see, I think the answer is intuitively obvious!"

I had this conversation with another person a month or two ago, and I couldn't get him to settle on one way of handling things either way. He insisted on being hypocritical. When talking about Trump's issues, he would dismiss them with "Those are just words." But then he would say that Clinton was guilty because of the "words" of the accusations against him. Well, which is it? Do the words have meaning or not?

As far as why the Trump situation is a little different, yes, it is intuitively obvious, but you don't seem to understand why. The "words" we were talking about with Trump was his own words confessing to his crimes. Remember how that is treated in a court of law. Words of accusation are treated skeptically and need to be proven. Words of someone's own confession are treated as true and do not need to be proven.

carlgo2 | 14. joulukuu 2017

Clinton's fans believed his accusers, but did not care. Most Republicans probably didn't care either, but they play hardball and sex has always been used against people in politics.

Most people probably understood, living with Hillary and all. Bill wasn't dead yet.

Moore threatened those kids to keep them quiet. To me that is the worst thing and that reveals an evil character. He most likely was successful at times, but those girls are now mothers and even grandmothers and are not going to go public and get vilified by their neighbors and certain news outlets.

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

@Rocky. Listen to the John Oliver segment. They have no answers. It began in the campaign. Whenever Trump was attacked he used "whataboutism". They still do it today. And my answer is go ahead and investigate and impeach Hillary, Obama, Bill or whoever but back to Trump the present Whitehouse occupant whose short fingers are close to the nuclear buttons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vpBrKcr0U

Tesla2018 | 14. joulukuu 2017

Two of my friends there wrote each others names in as write in candidates. They didnt want Moore but they didnt want Jones either so it would have prevented both candidates from getting a majority if enough people did the same thing.

Looks like a lot of people decided to vote for a Republican pedophile that would molest children instead of for a Democratic candidate that will wind up screwing everyone!

SCCRENDO | 14. joulukuu 2017

@Tesla2018. I think you are having difficulty with moral equivalence. Much as you or I would disagree with our respective political opponents policies this would not be morally equivalent to Moore’s pedophiliia or even Trump’s sexual molestation record.

Remnant | 15. joulukuu 2017

@Tesla2018 (December 14, 2017)

<< Looks like a lot of people decided to vote for a Republican pedophile that would molest children instead of for a Democratic candidate that will wind up screwing everyone! >>

Which goes to show that write-ins have been fainthearted idiots who could not complete their own thought. It would make sense to do a recount leaving them out, in order to discover how the real contenders rank with regard to each other.

lilbean | 15. joulukuu 2017

@SCCRENDO Sex offenders in California may live next to schools now. https://nypost.com/2015/12/14/californias-sex-offenders-free-to-live-nea...

SCCRENDO | 15. joulukuu 2017

@Remannt. This is not a popularity contest in high school. Read the constitution man. The idea here is to see who gets more legitimate votes. People are entitled to do what they like with their ballots. But if they don’t do them correctly they don’t matter. Of course if you lived in Alabama your vote would have counted. I am betting you would have had a clear ballot in favor of the pedophile.

SCCRENDO | 15. joulukuu 2017

@lilbean. Shh!! We could have Roy Moore coming to live in California/

Captain_Zap | 15. joulukuu 2017

...or 45. Eww!

NoMoPetrol | 15. joulukuu 2017

@SCCRENDO I remember when a few thousand Jewish retirees in a Florida mobile home park thought they were voting for Al Gore, but were actually voting for Pat Buchanan (a noted evangelist in favor of starting Armageddon on Israeli soil), resulting in the rest of us being blessed with the second Iraq invasion by a sitting US president named Bush.