Anxiously Excited!!!

Anxiously Excited!!!

I just placed the order for my Model S on Friday 2/14 it goes into production on the 27th. I'm a little anxious about these fires, though I don't believe the hype and I feel that media/competition is purposely exaggerating the situations. My other concern is the battery range decrease long term. I got the 60kwh model so I'll get 208 miles at full charge, and from reading other posts people say you get about 2/3 of that once you factor in heating/cooling/audio/lights etc.... so I'm working what my total range capacity would be like 3 years down the road and 6 years down the road. I asked Tesla they really didn't have an accurate projection. Does anyone have input on either?


Joe H. | February 17, 2014

Congratulations, I seriously doubt many owners here had any concern about the fires after reading any of the facts. I know I didn't and still don't. Also since no one here has owned a Tesla for 3 years any answers will just be speculation and/or educated guesses. Now there are people who has already passed 36k miles which estimated to be the average for 3 years of driving.

kenj | February 17, 2014


Plenty of threads on this topic.

Some general info. You "lose" range in cold weather. Always pre-condition (pre-heat) the battery by turning the cabin heat on via the remote app. Speed is the biggest factor. The rated range is based on 55 mph.

Plan ahead -- if your Route has no superchargers then recharging takes time. 19mph level 2 - single charge/ 38 mph dual charger. Give yourself a cushion -- it depends on your comfort level.

Fires happen all the time in ICE cars. Fires happen at gas stations. Knowing that did not stop you then nor should it now.

Have fun -- watch all the videos for delivery. the 27th will not come soon enough for you! Enjoy

J.T. | February 17, 2014

Your range of 208 miles is attainable in decent weather on flat ground. It's only the extreme temps that decimate your range. Relax. I can't tell you not to worry; it's your god-given right. But your car will be more rewarding than you can possibly imagine.

jordanrichard | February 17, 2014

Are you certain about the production date, possibly confusing that with the confirmation date which is 2 weeks from the order date. I confirmed my order on Jan 27th and my car isn't due to go into production until the week of Mar. 10th.

Did you order a P85?

MS6035699 | February 17, 2014

Hi All,

Thanks for the feedback and reassurance :)

I'd be curious to hear from anyone who has 36k miles or more as Joe H. pointed out. Also let me clarify that by "losing range" I don't mean because of driving stye, but more so as to long term max battery charge capacity. In other words what can we expect the charge to be in 3 years (or 36k miles)? you are right, I meant confirmation is on the 27th, as to when it goes into production I don't know yet. But the 27th is my point of no return :) My order is for the 60kwh.

Bighorn | February 17, 2014

You can forgo the two week wait and confirm right away if you're comfortable with your order and want to see it arrive sooner.

kenj | February 17, 2014

The battery is under warranty for 8 years (with a set number of miles - I cannot recall) in the 60kwh version.

I have read threads with people adjusting the charge voltage but I am just a plain 'ol guy. I leave the voltage alone. I keep the car at 90% charge. Drive to work - roundtrip about 40 miles and plug into a 14-50 at home. Takes about 1.5 hours.

If it can fit inside of your budget and you plan on averaging more than 180 miles, you probably want to strongly consider the 85kwh battery where you will get about 50 more miles on the 90% charge.

According to some OPs, if you range charge months at a time, that could reduce your battery life. Postings do not show harm for the occasional range trips -- meaning every day range charging to do something like go from LA to NYC.

J.T. | February 17, 2014

@pourkhomami Correction: it was jordanrichard who was right. I'm never right, just ask my wife.

ZRO CO2 | February 17, 2014

How do you find out when the car is due to go into production? all I know is "we have begun sourcing parts...." and a delivery date end of March.

DieAbetic | February 17, 2014

Lol @ jtodman. Sounds familiar.

jordanrichard | February 17, 2014

lanr, I too have a delivery at the end of March. I got a call from my Delivery Specialist about a week ago informing me that my car was due to go into production the week of March 10th. Keep in mind this could change, as my DS stated but we have set a "delivery appointment" for the 29th. The car will actually get here before that. I was given the choice of 27, 28, or the 29th.
My car is being delivered to Milford CT.

negarholger | February 17, 2014


Here is the thread you want to check out...

akikiki | February 17, 2014

You wife must not be reading the forum here. Because as far as we are concerned, you are always right.

ZRO CO2 | February 17, 2014

Thanks @jordanrichard, I have a delivery of March 26 to Vancouver Canada. so our production runs must be close. My Vin is 33401

plusplusjames | February 17, 2014

@lanr: we must be in the same batch. My S85 Vin 33436 is scheduled for March 28 in NYC.

ZRO CO2 | February 17, 2014

@plusplusjames when did you confirm your order. I confirmed mine 22 Jan.

jordanrichard | February 17, 2014

My VIN is 32897, Blue/Tan, S85, confirmed on Jan 27th.

ghillair | February 17, 2014

I think My5bAby has the most documented miles, see:

Brian H | February 19, 2014

Elon verged on saying that the fires should actually increase customer confidence in the car. He is right. The robustness of the car and the extremely safe, generous, informative warnings they got are unique.

plusplusjames | February 19, 2014

@lanr: My order confirmed on January 23rd.

MS6035699 | February 21, 2014

Thanks all!

Since posting this thread I'm much more comfortable with the purchase and have gone ahead and click the CONFIRM button today, woohoo!

The fires are not that wide spread, nor has the cause been definitively been determined. Even if the NHTSA investigation finds that there is a risk of fires with the Model S, then that means Tesla will issue some sort of recall and replace the parts to resolve the issue (or the risk of it happening). So I'm not too concerned about that.

As for for the range capacity of the 60 Kwh battery long term (5 years). Based on looking at what others have reported in terms of range vs. milage driven, my guess is that you will lose 25% of battery range capacity over a 5 year period. If this is the case it is not terrible, and by then I'm confident that the GigaFactory will be cranking out the LI batteries in masses so the cost of replacement should be substantially lower.

Now my biggest issue is how to keep sane for the next 2 months until my Model S arrives!!!!!

Does anyone have any idea what the the delivery time frame is for orders confirmed this month February 2014?

Bighorn | February 21, 2014

I think a lot of folks here would be disappointed with a 25% loss over 5 years, given reasonable driving ie not 50K mile/yr. I think the wait time for a 60 is probably on the order of 3 months and destined to be longer as Chinese orders start coming in faster.

Captain_Zap | February 22, 2014

Yes. I would expect to do much better than 25%.

I have had my car for 15 months and 15,000 miles and I lost 4 miles of Ideal range. That might be 2 or 3 miles of rated range. I might be able to get back over the 300 ideal range if I do a battery conditioning. I really don't think I need it now and it shouldn't be done frequently.

Most batteries loose a few miles when brand new but the curve flattens out.

Brian H | February 24, 2014


And I suspect 10 yrs for 25% is more like it, and even that allows for a 100% engineering safety margin.

crmohler | February 24, 2014

I have the 60 and have been really pleasantly surprised with my actual range. I live in SoCal, so the mild temperatures seem to help a lot, but I've gone back and forth on multiple trips now, and almost always end up losing less than 10 miles (out of 100+ miles) to conditions. I find that I lose even less on freeway trips (going up to about 74 mph) than I do around town. I do use cruise control and prefer to use the pano roof and seat heaters to climate control. But, like most Tesla owners, I love to be the first one at a stop light to get that grin when the light changes.

I was really worried about getting the 60 over the 85, but have found that it's been a great choice for me, as I typically drive about 50-80 miles a day, and my day/weekend trips have all been very manageable with plugshare.

Don't worry, the waiting is worth it, and any doubts you currently have melt away the first week of ownership. Congrats on the order!