Any word on the Nav features?

Any word on the Nav features?

Now that there are some Model S' out there, does anyone know whats being done on the navigation front? I'm still puzzled by Tesla's "offline navigation" with the Tech package versus what comes standard. Actually, do you get anything without the Tech package? I'd hate to think that I'd need to bring my Garmin into my new baby!

DouglasR | September 25, 2012

Well, I don't have the Model S yet, but I believe that you would control the play using the controls on the car (touchscreen or steering wheel) when connected over Bluetooth. At least that's the way it works on my Ford. And as others have said, they might eventually have a version of iTunes for the touchscreen, which would let you do this over USB as well.

jkirkebo | September 26, 2012

The Leaf has full iPhone integration over USB. I can browse albums, artists, genres etc., play/pause/skip and so on. I can however not use the iPhone for controlling the music. if I try to do that it just displays "equipment connected" or something like that. I have to use the touchscreen in the Leaf.

So full integration over USB is definately possible, but likely a licensing issue.

Over Bluetooth I can however use the iPhone for controlling the playback, it's only while using USB it is locked out.

MandL | September 26, 2012

I suspect it's a software/licensing issue. Many cars now offer this but you have to buy a manufacturer specific proprietary iPod/iPhone cable. Standard USB iPhone cables will only work for charging on Apple devices, but standard cables will work for playing files on USB/Android devices. I suspect this is how they charge people that want the iPhone capability with album art, etc. for the licensing without having to pay a fee to Apple for every car they sell.

Bluetooth profiles define capabilities for playback and fall back to the lowest common denominator between paired devices.

Most bluetooth devices now support the Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) though early iPhones didn't. This profile supports basic two-channel audio transfer.

To control the playback the devices need to support Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP). From Wikipedia:
AVRCP has several versions with significantly increasing functionality:
1.0—Basic remote control commands (play/pause/stop, etc.)
1.3—all of 1.0 plus metadata and media-player state support
The status of the music source (playing, stopped, etc.)
Metadata information on the track itself (artist, track name, etc.).
1.4—all of 1.0, 1.3, plus media browsing capabilities for multiple media players
Browsing and manipulation of multiple players
Browsing of media metadata per media player, including a "Now Playing" list
Basic search capabilities