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auto-pilot: hands on steering wheel not working

auto-pilot: hands on steering wheel not working

Everytime I use navigate on auto pilot, I place my hands loosely on the wheel, and intermittently squeeze. Inevitably, I get the flashing blue alert to press firmly on the wheel. Immediately, I squeeze the wheel to death, but it fails to recognize after several times, and disallows autopilot for the rest of the trip.

Anyone else have this issue? could the sensors in the wheel be faulty or software problem?

BLAKE1010 | February 11, 2019

Any yes I have updated to the latest software.

jimglas | February 11, 2019

squeezing doesn't work, torque on the wheel is needed. I just roll one of the wheels one click when I get a nag.

Magic 8 Ball | February 11, 2019

Squeezing is not how it works. You need to apply a slight torque to the wheel, like you are trying to slightly steer the car. There are youtube videos showing the proper technique.

BLAKE1010 | February 11, 2019

aha.. well thank you for that!

SpeedyEV | February 11, 2019

Alternatively, you can interact with the "scroll buttons" on the steering wheel. I usually turn the left scroll wheel up/down a step, which increases/decreases the volume one click.

richardls | February 11, 2019

@jimglas, the scroll works best with a nag. Can adjust speed up 1 and then back down 1, or change volume. Some have avoided nags by resting their hand on the bottom of the wheel just right of center with elbow on armrest.

Flanmansd | February 11, 2019

All these work.. To say "squeezing" won't work isn't true...

Slight torque left or right so the wheel feels resistance - M8B/jimglas - works.
Scroll speed/volume thumb wheels up or down - SpeedyEV/ridhardls - works.
Engaging turn signals will also dismiss nag - works.
Slight pressure ("squeezing" not necessary) on steering wheel will avoid/dismiss nag. I usually rest my hand on the lower left of the steering wheel while resting my arm on my knee (no torque needed) - works.

Might be worth a mention on your next SC/Ranger visit.

lbowroom | February 11, 2019

To say squeezing wont work is absolutely 100% true. There are no squeeze sensors in the wheel, the only way that works is you inadvertently apply torque to the wheel while you squeeze.

SteveWin1 | February 11, 2019

As others have said, scrolling the volume down one and then up one is what I do (to keep the volume the same). It might cause the little scroll wheels to wear out faster, but it feels safer to me than intentionally steering the car in a direction that I don't want to go. My girlfriend has actually yanked the car out of autopilot before when she applied a little too much torque and we almost went out of the lane before she got it back under control. Kind of a stupid and almost dangerous way to tell if someone is paying attention, if you ask me. Applying torque takes zero attention. At least scrolling the wheel when you see the nag proves that you're watching the LCD screen, so you're both alive and awake. You can literally die with your arm tucked into the steering wheel (or using an autopilot buddy) and your car will just keep going until the road ends or you come to a traffic signal and hit cross traffic.

Anyone know if they have plans to use that cabin-facing camera to actually watch to make sure drivers are paying attention? That seems like a much better solution. If we had a HUD, projecting an image of the nags onto the road would have been much better. Oh well, I love my EAP, so I'll quit whining about the slight imperfections. :)

SpeedyEV | February 11, 2019

Torquing the wheel works really nicely on curvy roads - let the wheel fight you and allow it to win (kind of like arm wrestling a toddler :-)).

CorkChop | February 11, 2019

I can’t believe this question gets asked so often.

lbowroom | February 11, 2019

You don't have to actively fight the wheel. You can hold it in the recommended 9 and 3 and just relax your arms, let your elbows drop. You don't need to levitate them. The inertia of that mass is enough to let it know you're there.

ST70 | February 11, 2019

just get this and you can fall asleep and wake up at your destination... https://electrek.co/2018/09/09/tesla-autopilot-buddy-hack-avoid-nag-rela...

jimglas | February 12, 2019

We call that the darwin award hack

kcheng | February 12, 2019

I set my steering feel on Sport. That's the heaviest feel. Then I put one hand low on the wheel, around 4 to 6. The weight of my single hand fights against the small adjustments the wheel is making, which provides just enough torque to let the car know I'm paying attention. No jiggling. No fiddling with speed adjustments. I just hold with one hand, using gravity and the car does all the work.

weluvm3 | February 12, 2019

"I can’t believe this question gets asked so often."

I can. The things that people have usability issues with are not random. In fact, they are entirely predictable by anyone with an understanding of good design and human nature and a modicum of common sense.