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Beyond Superchargers - Road Tripping Resources - UPDATE

Beyond Superchargers - Road Tripping Resources - UPDATE

Beyond Superchargers - Road Tripping Resources

High powered charging stations are being built out by different groups, companies and organizations so that we can better enjoy our cars.

Tesla Sales Locations have HPWCs. 16 kW charging. Please call in advance to check availability they do try to leave the HPW(s) open for owners. Availability can depend on the local Tesla population density.

The Tesla Highway - https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=213359050108102131982.00048cca5f440...

The Sun Country Highway- https://suncountryhighway.ca/ev-trip-planner/

If you are considering installing a charging station please consider the most accessible, fastest and least expensive option that is available now. That is an 80 Amp Charging Station with a J1772 outlet.

Here are some other resources that consist mostly of the medium power Level II chargers:

West Coast Green Highway- http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/electrichighway.htm

More commonly known resources are listed below and there is a mixed variety of charging:

Apparently, Recargo and Plugshare merged
Recargo: http://www.recargo.com/search Plugshare: http://www.plugshare.com/

Chargepoint: http://www.chargepoint.com/

Here is a thread with information about how Chargepoint works: http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/just-want-verify-how-chargepoint...

Blink Network: http://www.blinknetwork.com/
(Note: Many Blink charging stations are on the blink. Check operating status in advance if it is a critical part of your trip. Some regions are more reliable than others.)

http://carstations.com/ - tracks and maps charging stations. They differ from some of the others in that they verify a station before listing it.

RV outlets at campgrounds:
http://www.allstays.com/
http://www.rvparky.com/
http://koa.com/

If you have range questions you here are some resources. You just select the car you are using and enter your estimated speed and give yourself a good buffer. This map does not compensate for crossing bodies of water properly, so keep that in mind.

http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/
http://evtripplanner.com/

Information on S. Ontario, CA access to US Supercharger corridors is here: http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/southern-ontario-owners-travel-a...

Hotels with Charging: http://dcubed.com/evmap/

Specific Resorts and Hotels with exceptional EV service:
http://www.laquintaresort.com/

"The Loden Hotel in Vancouver BC Canada welcomes our TESLA friends to visit the beautiful Pacific Northwest, and the new Tesla showroom on Robson Street. With two Tesla High Power Wall Connectors and a NEMA 14-50 outlet, we’ll extend your range beyond the current Supercharger Network. As a hotel guest or while dining for lunch, Sunday brunch or dinner at Tableau Bar Bistro (the neighborhood French casual favorite), we’ll valet and power up your Model S or Roadster in our gated underground parkade. We applaud our EV guests and zero emissions by offering zero valet and charge up costs during your stay. See our special rate code TSLA. For more information, visit us at www.theloden.com and www.tableaubarbistro.com"

Here are threads with good ideas too:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/tips-taking-long-trips-where-the...
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/trip-planning-assistance

I know that there is more out there so, please chime in!

jat | November 26, 2013

Various camping websites, such as KOA and GoodSamClub, are useful as well.

Look for Facebook/G+ EV groups in your destination to find additional charging resources.

Al1 | November 26, 2013

Thanks guys.

Captain_Zap | November 26, 2013

Already updated a bit. Thanks for the help. We can polish and add as things come in.

jbunn | November 26, 2013

Wish we had permalinks.

Anybody notice the supercharger display on the Nav since the last update?

Al1 | November 26, 2013

Honestly guys, some of the links are so ugly that Tesla almost needs list of Tesla friendly hotels on its web-site!

Captain_Zap | November 26, 2013

I think that Tesla might be afraid of stepping on toes if they do that. Their hands are full as it is right now anyway.

There is an opportunity for someone if they were young and industrious. Hotels still pay commissions. The trick would be getting them to reserve the charging spot for their guest. That takes a little extra hospitality.

Tesla did say that if a hotel were to buy 2 HPWC's that they would throw in a second pair for free.

DouglasR | November 27, 2013

Here is a map of overnight accommodations with charging stations:

http://dcubed.com/evmap/

Unfortunately, I don't think it has been maintained or added to for a while. There is also an associated spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRSfuwpy2DXdDZlYWtjS3BZN0Q...

Captain_Zap | November 27, 2013

Thanks Doug!

Captain_Zap | November 28, 2013

Zapped.

OP now has a link to a thread about how Chargepoint works.

tes-s | November 29, 2013

Thanks Captain!! Great resource.

shs | November 29, 2013

Carstations.com also tracks and maps charging stations. They differ from some of the others in that they verify a station before listing it.

Captain_Zap | November 30, 2013

The list is updated to reflect Carstations.com. Thanks for the tip!

Docrob | November 30, 2013

I wish Tesla would license supercharger technology so that hotels could install one for their valets to cycle cars through.

tes-s | November 30, 2013

@docrob - I think a 100amp J1772 with two ports (80 amps per port) would probably work for a hotel with valets. Put the charger right out front, park the cars there until chartged, then put them in the garage. They should be so lucky to need to add another two ports!

Even a regular old 2-port 40amp Chargepoint charger (delivers 32 amps per port) would be great at hotels that don't have valets. http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/road-trip-concord-ma-saratoga-sp...

Captain_Zap | December 3, 2013

Zap

RonaldA | December 4, 2013

I've personally teamed up with suncountry highway to purchase 4, 90-100 amp chargers for locations I want to travel to and sited them in hotels. These include best western in Syracuse, NY, Albany Ny and the Colgate Inn in Hamilton NY. While I don't expect this from many, those of us with Model S may be able to use our Model S clubs to fund one or two off the beaten path chargers that would benefit the local clubs and ultimately help the infrastructure over all.

Ron

Captain_Zap | December 7, 2013

Thank you for the contribution. That is awesome! Did you enter your information into the search resources listed above?

Pricee2 | December 8, 2013

Here is one for RV parks

http://www.rvparky.com

Captain_Zap | December 8, 2013

The list is updated. Thank you!

Andrew_OH_70D | December 9, 2013

I installed both a HPWC and a Level 2 charger at our business and opened them up to the public. We are located right off an I-75 exit in Dayton OH. We are about 5 miles from the intersection of I-75 and I-70, which is where a Supercharger is indicated in the distant future. The HPWC is the next best thing for now.

Captain_Zap | December 12, 2013

That is generous of you! Did you put your chargers on the Recargo map or any of the others? I can put you in touch with the Tesla Highway map organizer.

tes-s | December 12, 2013

Looks like Recargo is going away.

"Recargo and PlugShare merged in the spring of this year -- since then we've been working hard to combine all of the content from the Recargo Station Finder and PlugShare. Moving forward we will be focusing our efforts on PlugShare. By working on one app we will be able to bring you cool new features even faster than before!"

Captain_Zap | December 14, 2013

Zap

Al1 | December 15, 2013

IKEA is also increasing number of charging stations in the US almost daily now. They plan to bring it to 55 from current 10.

Captain_Zap | December 22, 2013

Zap

tes-s | December 28, 2013

Bump. This thread is a great resouce to getting started on trip charging.

Brian H | December 28, 2013

Thump. Also works.
resource ;)

Captain_Zap | December 29, 2013

Zap.

Brian H | December 30, 2013

Paz←

mallynb | December 30, 2013

Kohl's Department Stores. 101 charging stations at 52 locations in 14 states.
http://www.kohlsgreen.com/media/pdfs/Kohl%27sEVReleaseFINAL_9.5.pdf

AmpedRealtor | December 30, 2013

The Kohl's stores in Arizona are partnered with ECOtality which is bankrupt. Do those stations still work?

mallynb | December 31, 2013

Probably. Car charging Group announced acquisition of Ecotality in October.

FMRTdoc | December 31, 2013

I put my NC (Winston-Salem) office HPC on PlugShare when installed 12/19. Have had NJ and Raleigh folks use evenings and weekends. I encourage more of this among Model S owners - virtually "meeting" nice Tesla folks!

Captain_Zap | December 31, 2013

Bravo John! We did the same. Installed two 80A with J1772s at my spouse's office. Flipped the switch last week. They are available to the public for free until they see how much traffic they get.

Be sure to notify ChadS at TMC. He maintains the Tesla Highway map. It tends to be a good resource faster chargers for those of us that have been spoiled.

The Tesla Highway Map map makes it so you don't have to sift through the slower outlets like you do on other maps. There is also more detailed information about other resources at different locations. Chad does a great job.

Captain_Zap | December 31, 2013

I see that I had the Sun Country link in the place of the Tesla Highway. I fixed it.

AmpedRealtor | January 1, 2014

I encourage everyone who has an HPWC to register on Plugshare.com. HPWCs provide excellent speed when "roaming" off the supercharger network and beat the heck out of Level 2 chargers. When you register your location on Plugshare.com, you do not have to publish your address or contact information. You can enter an approximate location on the map, the only way to contact you is by clicking the "contact" link on Plugshare and filling out a contact form. Your phone number, email address and physical location are not disclosed unless you want them disclosed.

I have published my HPWC as a service to other Model S owners, although I will be removing it once Tesla opens their supercharger here in Buckeye in the next couple of months.

tes-s | January 1, 2014

I think it is very nice that your businesses are installing 80amp public chargers at your businesses. Hopefully people will be respectful and use them appropriately.

I think it says a lot about a business when they provide charging - making it easy for employees, their visitors, and even periodic guests to charge their EVs.

Hard to justify it with an ROI, but I'd say marketing dollars well spent. I notice when business do things like this, have a food drive or other charitable activity going on, or other things that say the company/employees care.

Captain_Zap | January 4, 2014

I revised the list a bit. I'm still trying to figure out what to do about the Blink network links. Wasn't there a merger of Recargo with another organization as well?

@Tes-s - Within a day or two of installing the 80A charger, Teslas started to arrive. It isn't even a real destination like a shop,, market, restaurant or hotel would be. Faster charging stations attract Teslas like bees to honey.

djm12 | January 4, 2014

The ROI should be excellent for free chargers installed at locations with excellent quality shopping, restaurants and hotels. A hotel in an underserved area can recover the cost of a pair of 40A Level 2 chargers in months, not years. Some real-life examples showing increased business would go a long way to help companies like Chargepoint to convince business owners to invest in our infrastructure.

So how do we gather data to support the business case? How does the Harris Ranch Restaurant know exactly how much added business the Tesla SC brings?

tes-s | January 4, 2014

@djm12 - I would suggest a pair of 80a J2772 chargers, based on Captain's comment. Tesla owners turn up their nose at 40a chargers, but seem "attracted" to 80a chargers.

Clipper Creek makes them, and here is one that can charge two vehicles from Eaton: http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServices/Electrical/ProductsandServic...

I doubt they are going to have data to do a business case - they would simply know how many unique charges occurred, and how long they stayed.

At about $15,000 installed, a two-vehicle charger is not that big an investment, worth it for marketing and falls into the "just do it" category. Two Eaton 70amp J1772 chargers, along with infrastructure to install 2 more, was installed for under $10,000 including all materials and electrician - labor was done by the maintenance staff.

Captain_Zap | January 4, 2014

Here is the page for the charging stations that we had installed at "the office" and the City of Port Angeles installed for the TMC group.

http://clippercreek.com/store/product-category/all-products/at-the-parki...

We were really lucky on the installation costs because both locations were under construction anyway.

Earl and Nagin ... | January 4, 2014

@djm,
I don't know what Harris Ranch's ROI may have been. However, the management has repeatedly told me how happy they are with having installed the first public Tesla charger. They also told their friends at Tejon Ranch about how great it was having Tesla's frequent their retail establishments. This, of course led to the Tejon Ranch Supercharger.
I suspect that the ROI mainly lies in intangibles. The California ranchers like to think of themselves as pioneers. Harris Ranch has had a small landing strip for many years to enable pilots to fly in. They were also an early pioneer in offering CNG charging in the central valley. A Tesla charger just fits in naturally. They did, however, have to adjust their menu a little to accommodate a few vegetarians who make up some of the Tesla owners (it is still lacking but they're trying) :-)

Captain_Zap | January 18, 2014

Any new resources out there? Updates on Blink? How about the Recargo merger?

I read that one of the main champions of the Adopt-A-Charger program suddenly passed away late last summer. It is on their website. I hope the program doesn't go with him.

negarholger | January 18, 2014

Finally got my Blink card today... member since November. Their card printing machine seems to work again.

Captain_Zap | January 21, 2014

Any other resources we should add?

Al1 | January 22, 2014

I think hotel chains that develop such infrastructure need to be added as well. People select places to stay, not places to charge. Once hotel chain start moving in EV will become mainstream.

Captain_Zap | January 23, 2014

I added to the OP information that I got out of this thread about exceptional EV charging service at the La Quinta Resort.

http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/updatebest-tesla-hotel-service-ever

If you have had exceptional service at a Hotel or Resort for charging, provide a link and I'll add it on.

Captain_Zap | January 24, 2014

Updated.

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