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Buying a used P90D

Buying a used P90D

Hi everyone, just wanted to run this question by you all to get your thoughts. I currently have a LR Model 3 and I love it. However, I have two little kids under the age of 4 and I think the Model S will probably fit all of us and our stuff a little better.

I thought, "why not get a faster model too!" because why not, right?

I found a car that has everything I want and at a price that I can live with too.

It's a 2015 P90D with around 20,000 miles on it. Carfax comes back showing ZERO accidents or damage, but with two owners as a "corporate lease" vehicle. (This will be purchased from a dealership, FYI)

Now, ideally, I would love to get this either CPO or from an individual, but this particular car is just too perfect to pass up.

Aside from not having access to the extended warranty, do you think I would be ok buying this one from a dealership, and considering it was on lease previously? (I know I would still have the remaining bumper to bumper warranty, and the 8 year / unlimited mile warranty, correct?)

TIA!

ILoveMyModel3 | January 7, 2019

The 2015 Model S has old hardware which will not support any of the new software updated for the advanced autopilot and the using the old battery pack. Based on the technology, hardware, and safety I would not go from a Model 3 to a 2015 Model S.

nranthonyvsu | January 7, 2019

@ILoveMyModel3 The vehicle I am looking at does have the AP1 software, and from what I've heard, AP1 is still pretty darn good. I am not interested in FSD, as AP is plenty for me. 2015 model S still received 5 stars in saftey etc. as well. I'm honestly just worried about not purchasing the car direct from Tesla, as I don't know if anything is wrong with it etc., but it IS still under warranty, so hopefully I should be covered if anything goes wrong.

thranx | January 7, 2019

I'm very content with AP1. And that's very low mileage for a 2015. What I would do, if the dealer is willing and you are near enough, is ask to take it out for an afternoon after making an appointment at your nearest Tesla dealer and have their techs go over the car. That should tell you whether it's fit for you and your family. If the dealer declines your request, I would be leery of proceeding with the transaction.

gridley1950 | January 7, 2019

I would be up front with Tesla when you take it in. Tell them you are planning to buy it and ask for any recommendations. Be nice to them because one way or another you are going to have a relationship with them. And yeah, if the dealer has an issue with it you might want to run.

Anthony J. Parisio | January 7, 2019

Are you going to replace the Model 3?

Silver2K | January 7, 2019

How much left on the bumper to bumper is key. Also ask about what the range on the pack is at full charge. Also check ev-cpo.com to compare prices.

rxlawdude | January 7, 2019

As one who has both an early LR RWD M3 and a 2015 S70D, there's definitely something more "substantial" about the Model S - more polished ride.

But there was a lot of discussion about the early 90kWh batteries having more degradation than the 60,85,or 70 batteries of that time. A "P" means the battery was probably stressed a lot in launches.

That said, if the price is right and with the unlimited battery and drive unit warranty, you should be okay. You're aware the expiration of the 4 year warranty (regardless of this car's suspiciously low mileage) is imminent, of course.

nranthonyvsu | January 7, 2019

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. And yes to answer the questions, I would be replacing the Model 3 with this new car. And if this one doesn't work out, probably looking at either a P85D or just a CPO 85D.

I'll see if they let me take it for a spin so I can take it to the local Tesla service center.

kerryglittle | January 7, 2019

Don't trust Carfax. Bring a paint meter to make sure it really hasn't been in an accident. I have gotten burned on two high end cars in the past saying they had never been in an accident. They lied. Never trust a used car salesman.

p.c.mcavoy | January 12, 2019

Not sure if you’ve made a decision but a couple things to consider.

if you do much long range travel you will have less range in the P90D. Also charging will be slower. That’s little bit due to differences in the battery, but largely a case that the Wh/mi consumption of the P90D will be much higher, so you’ll need to add more energy for a fixed distance.

Also, you’ll be using more energy on a day-to-day basis, so your cost of ownership is likely going to be higher for the P90D. I’ve not heard a lot about tire life on the Model 3, but seems like I hear folks with PD models tending to go through tires more, again adding to cost of ownership for you.

Good luck on your decision. I do not own a Model 3, but have a 2016 MS90D. My kids are much older, but find I can quite a bit of stuff in the back given the hatch.

Starsky3 | January 12, 2019

i bought a 85D 2015 a month ago from tesla. I was nervous having only seen pics online. When I went to pick it up, It was amazing!! I couldn't have been happier. I read that tesla might not honor warranties of cars sold thru dealers. Not sure but i'd check with tesla. I'd be a bit nervous buying from a dealer as they know nothing about this car or the condition of it's battery. Look on tesla website, if you're getting it for about 10k cheaper, then maybe thats worth it.

p.c.mcavoy | January 12, 2019

@Starsky3 - The original 4 yr/50k mile warranty must be honored, even if purchased from a 3rd party, except in the case of a car that has been totaled and on a salvage title. What you might have read is that cars purchased through a dealer are not eligible for purchase of the extended service agreement (a.k.a, extended warranty) prior to the end of the base manufacturer warranty.