Disabling TPMS for winter wheels and tires?

Disabling TPMS for winter wheels and tires?

Greetings from the North Pole! (almost...)

I´m due to receive my TMS in sept/oct here in Norway, and I am curious to understand whether you can disable the tire pressure monitoring sensor/system in the Tesla Model S?

I´ve heard some rumours that its not possible due to US legislation/regulation, but i cannot see how this can be when all other brands sold in the US have the possibility to disable TPMS (for example Porsche).

The reason why I´m asking is that I need to order separate studded winter tires, and I do not particulary fancy the 19" rims from Tesla nor the tires or price that they come at. OEM sensors etc makes the whole ordeal a lot more expensive than it needs to be so I thought i would just disable TPMS when using the winter tire set.

In my BMW 2011 5-series disabling TPMS was a straight forward operation involving to buttons on the iDrive.... and the TPMS would switch off.

Can anybody with Model S shed some light on this?

Best wishes,

Leif Arne B.

docdac | August 14, 2013

I put aftermarket snow tires and wheels ( 20") without TPMS and drove all winter without problem. The TPMS warning light was on continuously, but very easy to ignore. If I had a flat, I would have to discover it the old fashion way. If you mount Tesla compatible TPMS's, you would need to have them programmed by Tesla each time you put the snow tire/wheels on and take them off. Hassle and expense, but viable.

lars.varnes | August 15, 2013

Is warning light on continuosly or is it only flashing for one minute each time you start driving?

jat | August 15, 2013

Given the price of the car and having an extra set of wheels, is a one-time expense of $400 more really that problematic?

Dramsey | August 15, 2013

If you mount Tesla compatible TPMS's, you would need to have them programmed by Tesla each time you put the snow tire/wheels on and take them off. Hassle and expense, but viable.

Why would you have to do that? I have two other cars with winter wheel/tire sets, and I've never had to do that as long as the winter wheels and tires had compatible tire pressure sensors.

Dreamin | August 15, 2013

Interesting. Which mke/model of cars? I always thought new TPMS's had to be manually programmed to the car... By the dealer, wheel installer, or you can buy a programmer (that's what I did with lasr car).

Currently only the first option (Tesla SC) is available for model S.

docdac | August 15, 2013

Check with Tesla. The car only remembers one set of TPMS. Swap wheels and you must reprogram car to recognize the 'new' TPMS. Maybe a future software update will allow it to remember two sets, but not currently. Same with my Hondas.

jat | August 15, 2013

My local service center told me that if I just drive with the new tires it will automatically learn them. I will find out soon, as my dedicated track tires with Tesla-compatible TPMS installed will be here next week. It will be annoying if I have to get them reprogrammed at the service center each time I change them.

docdac | August 15, 2013

Let us know if that works

leifarneb | August 16, 2013

The car only remembers one set of TPMS... but several dealers have now purchased calibration equipment for TPMS so the cost should go down from what Tesla is charging now. Given that the TPMS indicator light is not to intruding i guess i could live with the sensors not getting calibrated at all... Thanks for all your input :)

lolachampcar | August 16, 2013

Several dealers have now purchased......

This touches on one of my "up on the milk crate" issues.

Tesla is closed when it comes to maintenance of their cars. That is somewhat understandable at the start when resources are tight. It takes time and effort to modify their diagnostic software to add password protection for enabling features, properly document its usage and create a distribution system for making it available.

The above said, Tesla is now a real car company and needs to address right to repair. All the real car companies do it (yes, even Ferrari). Tesla needs to do this so there is more than just Service Centers that can perform these tasks.

And before someone starts in on me about Tesla's proprietary IP,,,,,,. They are now shipping that IP and they need to let their owners service it just like everyone else in the world does. The apple approach just is not going to fly here.

Dwdnjck@ca | August 16, 2013

If your winter wheels are equipped to have sensors,you should be able to transfer the sensors from one set of wheels to the other. I did this when I bought an extra set of 19's to get them chromed. The installer merely transferred the sensors from my original twheels to the chrome ones. It's easy to do sinse they are in the valve stems.

h.m.cohn | October 1, 2013

The price of the winter wheeel set went from 2400 to 4000 and they are now out of stock. I am considering ordering from tirerack but the service center in Queens tells me that only Tesla TPMS sensors will work, even though Tirerack sells (and will install on the mounted tires) a set of sensors. The service center told me I could buy sensors from Tesla but then one has to get them installed, which basically means, unmounting the wheel, an annoyance. And then they say you have to bring the car in to get the car to recognize the sensor, not what says he was told in the post above.

jat | October 1, 2013

@h.m.cohn -'s TPMS sensors work just fine (I have them in my dedicated track tires), but you do have to have them switched over in the car's TPMS. There is a diagnostic port under the cubby in the center console (looks like an ODB2 connector, may or may not be), and then you scan the TPMS serial numbers for each tire into a tool and upload them. It is quick and painless, but it does mean you have to do it at the service center (or a ranger if you swap the tires yourself or elsewhere).

Apparently some of the very early cars did have a different TPMS chip which did auto-learn, but that was swapped out.

garygid | February 20, 2015

The version 6.x software (and maybe some 5.x before that) have
a function on the touchscreen to recognize a different set of TPMS
after you swap winter to summer wheels and tires. No visit to
Tesla or other installer is needed, just take off the wheels and
put on the replacements, press a touchscreen button to start the
TPMS (re)recognition, and drive about 10 miles. You should get
an on-screen message when the recognition is complete.

Apparently this works for swapping any same-size rims
with compatible pressure sensors. I do not know why the
rim size should make a difference, or what happens if one
or more tires are a different size.

However, there is a new wrinkle: Starting with late 2014 Model S
vehicles, serial above about 56000 or 57000, Tesla started using
a new type of TPMS that is (reportedly) not compatible with the
earlier MS builds.

I an trying to find out more details, the TPMS types and compatibility
issues, and how to specify and identify them in the field.
Anybody with helpful, solid information, please post.

Thanks, Gary