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Dome light logic update

Dome light logic update

So I have a model 3 and my dome light has 3 setting just like on all typical ICE cars since the i was a kid:

ON = Dome lights are always on
OFF = Dome lights are always off
Auto = Dome lights come on when a door is open

Since it is 2020, why can’t we have a “Smart” setting for the dome light. This is a feature any car manufacturer could implement even a decade or two ago...

Smart = Works like “Auto“ setting, except it uses the ambient light sensor for the headlights to determine if we should even light up the interior lights.

Realistically, i would say some rebranding of the settings would make more sense. Change the text from “Auto” to —> “Door” and have the ambient light sensor based be labeled as “Auto”/“Smart”/“Night” or wording of that sort.

Yes this is a trivial feature and one that is only a first world problem. But I think this could be a quick feature knock out and something people would be like “Duh, why didn’t anyone think of this already”.

If Elon is reading (which he isn’t) I don’t mind if you call it “Faz” mode kinda like the “Joe” mode :)

EVRider | April 15, 2020

In my opinion, this isn't even a first world problem. It would be really disappointing if Tesla spent any time on this rather than the million other things they could be fixing or improving.

fazman | April 15, 2020

If EVRider was a PM for any company, I would be very quick to want to unload those shares LOL... I guess you have no idea how features/bugs are prioritized in a tech shop?

TeslaTap.com | April 15, 2020

@fazman - Perhaps I'm dumb today. I don't understand why anyone wants this feature change.

If reducing power- perhaps in 20 years, you might save enough power to drive 3 feet. So that goal seems unlikely.

If the goal is to prevent the doom light from coming on when it's bright out? I never noticed this as a problem or even noticed if it does come on. Why is it a concern?

With such a change, what happens if you're under a bright street light at night - does the dome light stay off when entering the dark interior car? That seems wrong.

Sorry, but I really don't understand the need/use/function of the suggested change.

EVRider | April 16, 2020

@fazman: Any company that would spend time on a feature requested by only one person is a company that won’t last long.

rxlawdude | April 16, 2020

With the default interior being black, I vote for the function as it exists. Door open->Dome lights on.

:-)

jordanrichard | May 14, 2020

OP, what are you saving by having 4 interior LEDs not coming on during the day?

derotam | May 14, 2020

Why are people assuming the OP is trying to save anything?

Even if they are, it doesn't matter. You could argue the same thing about the headlights, that they aren't using a lot of energy but they turn off during the day. Does the dome light during a sunny day add any noticeable lumens to your environment? Why have it on?

Should it be a priority for Tesla to do anything about it, no. Is it reasonable to say that it is pointless for the dome light to be on during a sunny day, yes.

andy.connor.e | May 14, 2020

I dont work for Tesla, but what i can offer is that in order to have the dome lights become "smart" with app control, that will require an additional communication wire from the lights down to the central computer. It will also require more microelectronics up in the dome to control the lights; either up at the lights or down at the computer, either way additional circuitry. Then there would also have to be an extent of programming code written to communicate with the lights, central computer, and even more code for those commands to even show up on your phone app. All of which have to be maintained, add additional parts and cost to manufacturing, and have the potential to cause bugs in the system and in the phone app. If that was the case, you know that Tesla would be getting calls or service appointments because the lights did not operate properly because there was a bug that automatically turned it on or off, or changed whatever setting it was on; on,off,auto.

For such a small insignificant and really inconsequential thing such as the dome lights, you are never going to require controlling them unless you are inside the car. And as its been stated, if they are accidentally left on all day or all night, it is not only an insignificant amount of battery drain, but is rather inconsequential in its entirety. Hope this helps understand.

derotam | May 14, 2020

@andy, to take a phrase from my Navy days... you're "Nuking" it.

From the OP, "Smart = Works like “Auto“ setting, except it uses the ambient light sensor for the headlights to determine if we should even light up the interior lights."

You went off the deep end on the term "Smart" there, haha. Now I am not going to get into where specifically the power lines go from the Dome lights, or whether the system it is connected to can communicate with the system that gets the Ambient light sensor info. But If they are one in the same then it wouldn't be very complex(theoretically) to just say if Ambient light = "High", then no dome light.

You can say this dome light thing is so inconsequential all you want, but if the valve stem caps on your wheels were Pea Green, I am sure there would be a massive amount of complaints...for such an "inconsequential" item....for example. :)

andy.connor.e | May 14, 2020

i wonder if enough people requested it, if they'd do it.

fazman | May 23, 2020

Honestly, this would be such a simple feature to implement. No new hardware is needed... I have no idea why all the Fan Bois have to make everything overly complicated and blown out of proportion. The car already has an ambient light sensor which it will use to determine of the headlights need to be turned ON or OFF when in AUTO mode.

If that same ambient light sensor is used, you can programmatically tell the dome lights to stay OFF when it hasn’t reached its trigger value. It will switch the dome lights to ON when it exceeds the ambient light trigger levels. The reset of feature works as it currently does when a door is ajar or when welcome/exit convenience logic would warrant it to operate.

For people who are hard core know it all troll fan bois... you really need to brush up on your EE/CS skillz.

fazman | May 23, 2020

EVRider | April 16, 2020
@fazman: Any company that would spend time on a feature requested by only one person is a company that won’t last long.

Why are you always so negative on Tesla? I don’t feel that Tesla won’t last any more just because they made one feature for one person named “Joe” and made a “Joe” mode. Please remember this is not about saving electricity... this is a feature that should have already been part of ICE cars for over 20 years, but no one has thought about it. Kinda like why make the sun visor magnetic on the Model Y... instead of the tried and true clip of ALL other tesla Models.

Why do this, not everyone leaves their dome lights in the current logic of AUTO mode. I know many people who actually like to leave their dome lights OFF. Its also kinda dumb to have lights on in the middle of the day when it makes no difference to be able to see any better. Using the logic of Fan Boi troll haterz on these forums, why does Tesla leave all exterior lights on any time the vehicle is being operated? It would actually be very minimal impact to range and probably help to be noticed more by surrounding traffic at all times (Oh yea we don’t do that because its a dumb idea, there are better ways... DUH!)

EVRider | May 23, 2020

@fazman: “Why are you always so negative on Tesla?”

What the hell are you talking about?

andy.connor.e | May 23, 2020

Engineers do not making things overcomplicated.

"Honestly, this would be such a simple feature to implement. No new hardware is needed... I have no idea why all the Fan Bois have to make everything overly complicated and blown out of proportion. The car already has an ambient light sensor which it will use to determine of the headlights need to be turned ON or OFF when in AUTO mode."

This statement is oversimplifying it, because you think all of the necessary control wiring is already in place and the only reason they're not doing it is beyond comprehension, and Tesla is lazy for not doing it. One cannot expect the simple minded to understand complex issues. The light sensor for the headlights is something you want on your cabin? So at night when the headlights come on you want your cabin lights to turn on as well while driving?