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Florida Sunpass, HOV, I-95 Express Sticker

Florida Sunpass, HOV, I-95 Express Sticker

All things regarding EV and Florida HOV lanes.

1. Think this has been clarified, but there are no issues with the windshield mounted Sunpass on Model 3, correct?

2. I already registered for both the HOV sticker, and I-95 Express sticker. Can anyone positively confirm is these stickers HAVE to be mounted? I really will only use the I-95 Express lanes, as there are no HOV lanes in the areas I frequent. Do the I-95 express lane cameras actually detect either the HOV sticker or the I-95 Express sticker? Or do they simply run your tag through the EV database?

hokiegir1 | February 11, 2019

We have a sunpass account and just added our tag number to the account instead of using the receiver on the windshield.

rel | February 11, 2019

Thanks hokiegir1. Any experience with the express lane stickers?

richardls | February 11, 2019

1. I believe this is correct, but you should always have your tag linked to your account. If for some reason the reader doesn't pickup your car, they'll try the tag too. If they don't get either, they send you a notice and you can then add the transaction, but that take more time. CYA, use both transponder and tag to avoid issues down the road.
2. I haven't mounted my stickers yet as I hate the way they look. But, I also haven't used the express lane yet with my Tesla. The policies for both HOV and I-95 Express are clear. You MUST have the HOV sticker to go in an HOV lane without more passengers (not sure what a cop would do if they stopped you and you showed it to them, but they'd probably be annoyed you didn't post it). I-95 Express requires both stickers, but presumably relies upon the hidden Sunpass (in the RFID bag) + registered tag in application (maybe they rely on the stickers for some verification or auditing) (this is likely less of an issue of a cop stopping you as it is enforced through billing).

Personally, I have the items stored in my car until I actually think I'm going to use them for the first time, because I hate the look. But, if I commuted in these lanes frequently, I would have sacrificed.

Curious what other S. Floridians will have to say here.

tanya | February 11, 2019

I think you'll get a ticket if HOV sticker is not attached. They send you a metal plate for SunPass mini to cover it when in Express lane and a bag for the removable SunPass. Both HOV and I-95 stickers are hideous, but it is so nice to be able to drive in HOV lane during rush hours.

hokiegir1 | February 11, 2019

@rel -- I'm not actually a FL resident -- we just go to Disney frequently, so we got the Sunpass for the Turnpike -- we're not really close to 95. The GA express lanes also use our Sunpass, but we don't have separate stickers for those.

SteveWin1 | February 11, 2019

Yes, sunpass works fine through the Model 3 windshield. I use it all the time. No issues. I just stuck it in the same place I would in any car -- behind the mirror from the driver's point of view.

richardls | February 11, 2019

@Tanya, don't think they'll end up with a citation for 95-Express based on cameras. The system is automated and uses LPRs (License Plate Readers) that charges based on the plate if a SunPass isn't detected (why they have you cover or bag the SP). If no SP, then it checks to see if tag is in the system as a registered Hybrid/EV - if it is, it doesn't charge.

That said, their website does indicate that law enforcement can monitor video from the gantries and issue violations. Presumably, this is why the stickers are needed (but I'm not sure given the lack of a pull over lane in the express lanes that in practice this actually happens much):
"Enforcement beacons on the gantry structures will alert Florida Highway Patrol troopers monitoring the lanes when a vehicle without a transponder passes underneath. The vehicle could be a 95 Express violator if it does not meet the occupancy requirements and is not registered. Enforcement cameras, accessible by law enforcement in their vehicles, will enable troopers to see vehicles before and after they pass under the gantry, and to watch for illegal movement in and out of the express lanes through the plastic poles. The cameras also enable law enforcement to identify approaching vehicles that have a 3+ carpool sticker and check for the occupancy requirement."

tanya | February 11, 2019

@richardls
What is the point of the sticker?

rel | February 11, 2019

@richardls Thanks for the input. This is what I want to get a concrete answer to. I don't use HOV lanes, so I'm certain I'm safe not using that sticker. I just want to find out now if any camera or sensor somehow picks up the 95 Express sticker, or if it's all tag based (so why the sticker then?).

tanya | February 11, 2019

They answer questions pretty quick. Here is their email: info@1800234ride.com
Let us know if you find out if we don't have to attach the stickers.

eplaskett | February 11, 2019

@hokiegir1

Just out of curiosity: Any particular reason you went with a SunPass rather than (or in addition to) a Peach Pass? We have Peach Passes on our cars, but they will work in Florida if we need to drive on the Sunshine Skyway, Pinellas Bayway, Selmon Expressway or any other state toll road while we're visiting our old stomping grounds. Does the SunPass get you better toll rates on the Turnpike than a Peach Pass would?

gmr6415 | February 12, 2019

According to the State of Florida there is no TOLL-BY-PLATE in the express lanes.

http://floridaexpresslanes.com

Customers must have an active and properly mounted SunPass or other interoperable transponder, as no cash or TOLL-BY-PLATE is accepted in the express lanes.

hokiegir1 | February 12, 2019

@eplaskett - we've had the SunPass for about 10 years now -- long before the PeachPass came out (or at least before it was as commonly used as it is now). When the toll lanes opened that we regularly use, we already had the SunPass, so didn't bother getting a PeachPass. If I could get the no-charge PP with my vanity tag, I'd do that, but 1) you can't get it unless you have the AFV tags (which can't be personalized), and 2) I don't think it works on the particular stretches that we use anyway.

EVRider | February 12, 2019

I live in south FL and am registered for both HOV and use of the I-95 express lane, and I have SunPass. If you’re registered for both, you’re not supposed to use the transponder in the express lanes — it uses your plate. The information referenced in the previous reply applies to people who do not register for free express lane use.

Once you have your HOV registration, you can register for free express lane usage here: https://1800234ride.com/commuter-options/registration-renewal/95-express...

richardls | February 12, 2019

@gmr6415, if one goes in the lane without a SunPass and without their car being registered, the system will charge them and tack on more charges for not having a SunPass. So, it is not intended as toll-by-plate. That said, if you have a SunPass and are not registered for the EV/Hybrid program and for some reason it doesn't read your SunPass, I assume the system will cross-reference the plate to see if it's registered with SunPass before treating it as a non-SunPass car (just like other tolling facilities do).

@Rel, according to the information when you apply for the EV/Hybrid program, you are supposed to have BOTH stickers (HOV in rear, Hybrid in front). As I stated above, this seems to be for law enforcement based on what their website says. See what they way when you email them, but I assume the official line is gong to remain you still need both.

tanya | February 12, 2019

I used Express lane a few times last weekend. I have both stickers (HOV and Express Hybrid) and SunPass, which I covered with a shield. I logged in to my account today, and I see I was charged multiple times by plate. The pictures are attached to each Express lane charge, so they do take pictures of the back of the car. I called SunPass and they verified I have registered my car, so they are removing the charges. Still not sure what purpose does Express sticker serve.

EVRider | February 12, 2019

The express lane sticker is just for show. I don’t know why they bother. I haven’t put either the HOV or express lane stickers on either of my cars, but I’m usually with my wife when driving in the HOV lane.

richardls | February 12, 2019

@EVRider, as quoted above, their website says "Enforcement cameras, accessible by law enforcement in their vehicles, will enable troopers to see vehicles before and after they pass under the gantry." Presumably, these cameras would let troopers see the decals. Also, in HOV lanes the HOV sticker will allow troopers (and other cops) to see that the car is registered for HOV lane regardless of occupancy.

That said, I have emailed 95express to ask them for an answer and will share it when I hear back.

M3BlueGeorgia | February 12, 2019

Our Sunpass works great. Located on the windshield just to the right of the cameras.

tanya | February 12, 2019

@M3BlueGeorgia
95 Express is free for registered hybrids, not sure what you mean by "works great".

richardls | February 12, 2019

@tanya, I think M3BlueGeorgia was answering the OP's first question.

richardls | February 12, 2019

Here is the official answer from South Florida Commuter Services (which seems consistent with what I said above - it's about the officers):

Thank you for contacting SFCS, I'll be more than happy to assist you.
According to Florida Administrative Code 14-100.004, any hybrid/electric vehicle registered for toll exemption are required by law to display both the 95 Express and HOV decal.
Additionally if your vehicle is stopped by an officer, the decals will prove that your vehicle is registered with our program.

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are more than happy to help!

Sincerely,

South Florida Commuter Services
A Program of the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT)

Email: info@1800234RIDE.com
Website: www.1800234RIDE.com
Phone: 1-800-234-RIDE (7433)

eplaskett | February 12, 2019

@hokiegir1

Got it, thanks. SunPass started well after I moved to Georgia from Florida, and I haven't needed any kind of toll pass in Georgia until recently, when the I-75 toll lanes opened, so I just went with the Peach Pass.

EVRider | February 12, 2019

@richardls: I didn't say the stickers weren't needed, I said they were for show, meaning to be seen but not detected electronically (they don't transmit anything). I know I'm supposed to display them on my car, but I've chosen not to because they're ugly :-).

The HOV sticker is the more important one, since police rely on that to know if you can use the HOV lane when driving alone. I keep both stickers in my car in case I ever do get pulled over, but that hasn't happened yet.