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When you write “FWD doors” you have written “Front Wheel Drive doors.” If you insist that the acronym ‘FWD’ now means “Falcon Wing Doors” you have inadvertently written “Falcon Wing Doors doors.” Another example: “ATM machine” reads: “Automatic Teller Machine machine.” All y’all apparently work for the Department of Redundancy Department ;-)

TeslaTap.com | October 8, 2015

So true!

I recommend using the acronym "FD" for Falcon Doors to avoid confusion with Front Wheel Drive.

petochok | October 8, 2015

Vehicle Identification Number number :)

georgehawley.fl.us | October 8, 2015

FW doors works for me.

EVino | October 8, 2015

Acronyms Seriously Suck
by Elon Musk

oragne lovre | October 8, 2015

@EVino,

Thanks for sharing the memo.

May I suggest we just call them Wings? If you're an X fanboy, you'd surely know which part of the car Wings refer to. More over, Wings is a single syllable, whereas FWD contains 3 syllables.

Once I get my X, I will not say "Let's open the FWD, honey." I'll say "Let's wing, honey!"

Thought?

danej | October 8, 2015

Why don't we just call them doors, or back doors?

-Dane

carlk | October 8, 2015

Falcon Wing Doors is just fine. That's how I always say it. Got lazy sometimes when typing that's all.

FelixMendeldog | October 9, 2015

@EVino — Thank you! Unbeknownst to me, Elon himself preemptively vindicated my rant! Arguments for the continued abuse of communication through the use asinine acronyms are impotent.

Ankit Mishra | October 9, 2015

Oohh, abbreviation police is here. I gotta 99 problems and I will be using FWD for doors to add one.

Son of a Gunn | October 9, 2015

Uhhh, Ankit wow you're a great rapper like Jay Z. What lyrics.

Ankit Mishra | October 9, 2015

Such support, very thanks, so bro. Wow.

MountainVoyageur | October 9, 2015

It is common for acronyms to have multiple meanings, depending on context. I see nothing wrong with FWD meaning Falcon Wing Doors in the Tesla context. There is no reasonable chance of being confusing, since no one talks about Tesla's "front wheel drive".

JeffreyR | October 9, 2015

@MountainVoyageur +1

I've made that point too. But I agree w/ using full words when possible. A good practice is to write out Falcon Wing Doors (FWD), then you know the acronym going forward.

When I was at Cisco, TLAs were everywhere and made new non-networking employees (like me and my co-workers in Physical Security), feel like kicking people sometimes. I was not shy about asking, "what does that TLA mean?" Which threw folks off as they did not know what a three-letter acronym was!

rmitchum | October 9, 2015

I'm partial to BFD!
(borrowed from the other leading Tesla forum)
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Billionaire Falcon-wing Doors (of course?)

LANGUAGE WARNING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIAOosI6js

P.S.
I'm afraid I even had to Google TLA!

danej | October 9, 2015

Back doors.

Xerogas | October 9, 2015

Using the wrong acronym introduces unnecessary cognitive overload, which makes your reader's brain hurt. People justify misspelling "their", "there", and "they're" because they claim the true meaning can be understood in context regardless of spelling. True, but it still hurts my brain.

If you want people to enjoy your writing, please spell out the words, or call them "wings", but don't misappropriate an acronym from the auto industry that has completely different semantics.

Ankit Mishra | October 9, 2015

Hmmm, and your user name misspells 'zero'. Guess some of that hurt is coming from there. Atleast we are not calling it Fhalcon Weeng Dhoors.

deeageux | October 10, 2015

FwD to differentiate from Front Wheel Drive.

Pungoteague_Dave | October 10, 2015

+1000

Crossposting: In the automotive world, FWD means front wheel drive, every time. It is listed in every auto spec sheet (as FWD, RWD, AWD, or 4WD) and has been an accepted nomenclature for the basic car format for eons. Trying to adopt this shorthand acronym for the doors is beyond silly, will constantly require explanation, and is not going to stick. Try something else please. Even basic things like FWD (front when drive) and fwd (forward) have different meanings and are specific in the industry. Don't tilt at windmills - standards always win:

http://www.carbibles.com/automotiveabbreviations.html

Ross1 | October 10, 2015

As Elon is quoted as saying (above), any acronym used in his product and company has to be approved personally.

So.

What do they call those flappy things within Tesla Motors?

What does EM call them?

rmitchum | October 10, 2015

@PD
HCL Batman! (Holy Comprehensive List)

P.S. eons? (I told you a million times, NEVER exaggerate.)
;-)

AlMc | October 10, 2015

We could called them EMD: Elon Musk Doors

Mark35 | October 10, 2015

My favorite when I worked for a defense contractor 25 years ago was the TLA for the drawings they generated that came in a booklet format. They called those a Book Form Drawing, aka BFD. Of course, most/all of us know the other common use for BFD. So it was quite hilarious to sit in meetings and hear for VP or senior director say "... this BFD ... that BFD ..."

Chunky Jr. | October 10, 2015

When I see "FWD" I think of a cassette tape fast forward. Will need to retrain my brain.

vandacca | October 10, 2015

The first FWD car came to market in 1966 and over the years this TLA has been ingrained into the automotive psyche. Fast-FWD to this decade when an AWD car with FwD is challenging the dominance of a 50-year old TLA. If Tesla is truly revolutionary, FwD will supplant FWD.

MountainVoyageur | October 10, 2015

As an example of acronyms being contextual, when I first saw TLA in this thread my initial reaction was that I had not seen that acronym in along time -- but what did "Translation Look Aside buffer" have to do with this thread?

Chunky Jr. | October 10, 2015

TLA also stands for "Three Letter Acronym" which is a term that some companies use when TLAs get out of hand. :-)

sbeggs | October 11, 2015

A la CHAdeMO, we could dub the Falcon Wing Doors FalWinDo!

Alaa | October 11, 2015

Actually I like the idea of Front Wheel Drive. I hope that Tesla sells this type soon, in both the X and the S. It should be cheaper. The back motor could be replaced with extra batteries. And Front WD cars are just as good as AWD cars. That extra grip is nice but I would gladly take a Front WD if it has a better range and is cheaper.

FelixMendeldog | October 11, 2015

@Alaa — there is so much wrong with your desire—and the assumptions on which you've based that desire—to have a front wheel drive Tesla, I don't even know where to begin.

mitchingiahung | October 27, 2019

Thanks for sharing for me!
FWD is the most popular and popular drive model on the market because of its simple and neat layout that saves fuel and increases the interior space of the vehicle. In addition, the weight of the engine and gearbox is concentrated on the front wheel drive so the car will have good traction.

A common feature of front-wheel drive models is that the vehicle tends to lack steering when making sharp turns (the car will have fewer turns than the driver's steering). In difficult terrain conditions, the vehicle also tends to go straight with little response to the steering impact of the driver).

mitchingiahung | October 27, 2019

Thanks for sharing for me!
FWD is the most popular and popular drive model on the market because of its simple and neat layout that saves fuel and increases the interior space of the vehicle. In addition, the weight of the engine and gearbox is concentrated on the front wheel drive so the car will have good traction.

A common feature of front-wheel drive models is that the vehicle tends to lack steering when making sharp turns (the car will have fewer turns than the driver's steering). In difficult terrain conditions, the vehicle also tends to go straight with little response to the steering impact of the driver).
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TeslaTap.com | October 27, 2019

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