Heading cross country!

Heading cross country!

Drove from Kentucky to New York last week to pick up my daughter in Hoboken for my co- pilot. As I was exiting the freeway for JFK, I hit something in the road that blew out a tire and bent the rim. Called tesla service at 7:am Monday morning. They had a new tire and rim on by 9 am. Left JFK supercharger at 9:45. Stopped in Hoboken and on to Newark, De. Full range charge and left with 258 miles. Pulled into Somerset sc with 11 miles rang left. Somerset to Macedonia in 3 hrs. It was snowing so the leg to Maumee, Ohio was slow. Got in at 2:30 am and couldn't get to the supercharger because of the snow that hadn't been plowed. Went to a Hampton inn 1/2 mile away and called Tesla. The guy told me to get some sleep and he would see what he could do. I went back to the sc at 8 am and it was clear. Are these guys the best or what! Headed out to Mishawaka with temp at 6 degrees. I'll keep you up to date if there is interest.

MacDaddyDude | January 24, 2014

@shop I've had my eye on the cordless tool line by Stihl, but haven't gotten it yet - no grass to cut in January, but thet look plenty strong!

hademarco | January 24, 2014

@SarahsDad creepy stalker! :-)

Awesome Journey, John and Jill. Yes, let us all know approximate time of arrival in the Hawthorne SuperCharger. Will bring Champagne

teriyaki88 | January 24, 2014

Congrats to you and your daughter. I feel like i'm riding shotgun with you :) I know there are thousands of forum regulars that are pull for you guys! This is awesome.

Captain_Zap | January 24, 2014

Myfastlady isn't a hybrid. She's a thoroughbred!

Shesmyne2 | January 24, 2014

Ok, so this whole thread and trip hasn't been fun enough and now you throw in the history of the OP
and horses...yeah. Hollywood here you come!
Please do let us know where you land whether it be SoCal or Bay Area I am sure the community would love to greet you!
Thanks for bringing us along!

Still Grinning ;-)

STEVEZ | January 24, 2014

@horseheadcrossing: Holbrook has been online for more than a week; the first owner to charge there posted about it over on TMC on the 15th.

robkal007 | January 24, 2014

John and Jill,
Great run and thanks for all the updates. Our son Nick and I ran the border to border run (Mexico to Canada) three weeks ago and it is a great way to show the future of transportation without petroleum. I'm awed by the weather conditions and amazed at some of your Wh/m - we averaged 354 Wh/m over the 1414 miles. We kept the speed down to reduce the charge times. I'm curious how long it takes you to charge to over 240 Rated Range?

Keep up the great driving and promoting these wonderful cars. Do you have a media event planned in LA on Saturday?


MNGreene | January 24, 2014

@shop - we were just talking about electric mowers on another thread but I'll repeat myself. Electric mowers are awesome. No trips to the gas station,no fumes, and quiet. Does that sound familiar? I have had a Black & Decker cordless self-propelled mower for the last 2 years. Goes about 45 minutes on a charge, which is long enough for me. The only downside is it does not handle extra long or wet grass very well, but you really should not be mowing then anyway.

JohnGlenney | January 24, 2014

Hello everyone! It's Jill this time. Thought it was time for an update of my own. We are currently on our way from Farmington, NM to Gallup. This will probably be our last stop for the night. We are planning on getting started bright and early in the morning and are contemplating bypassing Holbrook and going straight to Flagstaff to save time (I've got a flight out of LA tomorrow night to catch!) For those of you who were interested in knowing a little more about me, I am a 26 year old currently living in Hoboken, New Jersey, making JFK a perfect starting place for us. I am a new Hoboken resident though, as I have been living in New Orleans for the past 8 years after moving down in 2005 to go to Tulane. Since I loved the city so much, I stayed for graduate school at Loyola University and just finished up last August with a MS in Mental Health Counseling. Feeling like it was time for a change, I moved up north to Hoboken just a few months ago. I am still looking for a job in my field and am waiting tables in the mean time. One of the benefits of working in a restaurant is the flexibility of my schedule, making it relatively easy to make time for a cross-country road trip on short notice! However, originally having moved down to Louisiana for the weather, I was not adequately warned about the -6 degrees it would be in South Dakota. :) Today is my favorite day of the trip so far. It has been getting progressively warmer and more beautiful as the day went on. In fact, I am thinking about taking the trip again this summer, making sure to take some time at the best places, which will definitely include hiking in Moab, Utah!

J.T. | January 24, 2014

Thanks for writing, Jill. Best of luck in your new city and looking for a job. Please convince your daddr to drive up to Fremont. It would be the perfect end except his very able copilot won't be able to make the trip.

Continued good fortune on your way to LAX.

STEVEZ | January 24, 2014

We had a thread awhile back about best driving speeds for optimizing cross-country speed-made-good. When using Superchargers, the calculations indicated the optimal driving speed was around 115 mph, as long as you could make the next station without running out of charge. That was with 90 kW Supercharging and with a whole raft of assumptions, and nobody's going to drive that fast as a general rule, but it makes the point that you don't have to drive slow any more, not when your next charge is a Supercharge. Also, remember that the closer to depleted the battery is when you arrive at a SC, the faster you charge.

Supercharging changes everything about cross-country in an EV!

Jamon | January 24, 2014

Jill, it's great to hear from you! I hope you two get to meet Elon on your last stop, and I hope he offers you a job so you don't have to rush back to Hoboken! I don't know how many mental health counselors are needed at Tesla, but I imagine SpaceX may need some when they start recruiting for a one way ticket to Mars...

Hope you will be convinced to head up north to Fremont. We'll throw a big party for you if you can make it!

NKYTA | January 24, 2014

Jill, if I owned a company I'd sign you up out her in CA..., if you could only get you and your dad to Fremont - come'on, best story ever - beats the hypermiler father son in some sense!! ;-)

John, keep up the great work - gee - traveling cross-country, only on SC's - with your daughter - a deadline - through inclement weather - ....

I'm very impressed by you both and keep it going.

Don't forget this forum is pretty strict - POIDH!
Pics or it didn't happen.

Or...a book, as another posted. :-)

Truly ground-braking. Many Kudos. Still following! Can you make it as far north as Harris - we'll come down! ;-)


oildeathspiral | January 24, 2014

Jill, Tesla should hire you. The Elon/Tesla/EV haters are in serious need of mental health counseling...

assaf.oron | January 24, 2014

Jill hi,

Thank you so much for sharing! 2005 was not just any year... it seems you moved to New Orleans right after Katrina? That's very brave for the first move out of home. One of my son's classmates in preschool here was from a family of Katrina refugees (they had a grandma up here in the chilly Pacific Northwest, so that was their escape).

So great you are spending a night in NM. We lived in Albuquerque in 1997-8, still a young family with a toddler and another baby who was born there. The place was so beautiful and full of a different air, I felt grateful every day we were there. But our stay was time-limited.

Anyway, I just looked at Google Maps and Gallup is precisely 666 miles away from LAX. Doable! However, even at this hour (9:45 PM Pacific) their calculator adds a half-hour due to LA traffic ;) keep that in mind too... you might want to use the Waze app to maze you through the jams when you get close to LA.

Good luck catching that flight and making history in the process... and thank you for doing it. And good luck finding a good job too! Maybe someone on the forum knows someone, who knows someone?

Good night, Assaf

Jamon | January 24, 2014

@assaf.orin - we're glad you ended up here via the link from insideevs, and hope you stay on the forum after this cross country adventure is over! And BTW, there's nothing "lowly" about driving a leaf :)

assaf.oron | January 24, 2014

@Jamon thanks!

JohnGlenney | January 25, 2014

It's our last day and we are getting an early start. Jill set an alarm for 4:15 and it sounded like a fire alarm. Being woken out of a dead sleep to the sound of a fire alarm in a strange place is disconcerting. We should be on the road by 5 am and we gain another hour to west coast time, so it looks good. I have been passing my pics along to Graham at Tesla who has passed them to the communications dept. and I think they will put them on their Facebook page. They may be waiting to see if we are going to make it. If we don't, it will be bad pr and I am sure there are people who would like to publicize the fact that the supercharger network doesn't work ( I recall a certain NY times article a year ago). We have 257 miles range so I think we will go straight to Flagstaff. My apologies to the person who wanted to meet in Holebrook. Contact me at my e-mail. I do plan to go to Freemont after a day off from driving and I hope I can get a tour of the factory. I haven't seen it since the open house they had a couple of years back and it would be one of the highlights of the trip. I will keep you updated during the day today when we will have a better idea of ETA. I think I can smell the salt air already, wish us luck.

Sgt Barone | January 25, 2014

Good luck!

ArieK | January 25, 2014

Best of luck from Europe! We are so jealous of this cross country capability. It's like driving from Norway to Portugal for free!

STEVEZ | January 25, 2014

Gosh, I'd stop at Holbrook, even if for only 15 minutes, just to eliminate the chance of falling short of Flagstaff. Any sort of headwind makes the 187 miles a stretch with your 21" wheels. Not that I'm worried you won't make it--you're savvy at matching your driving to the conditions--but when the SC's are close together you can actually do better in terms of average cross-country speed by driving faster and stopping at every SC.

JenAlJill13 | January 25, 2014

We don't want to steal J&J's thunder, but if I were in LA this evening I'd follow behind them at a respectable distance and be part of history. Can you guys in LA set something up? A hundred EVs rolling down the highway would increase the impact of their achievement and send an even bigger message to the world. Still, we don't want to turn this into any kind of a circus...

eddiemoy | January 25, 2014

good luck! love reading about your adventure across the country. i hope to do that one day. but i fear the middle of the US where people are not as tolerant.

lolachampcar | January 25, 2014

sorry, cross posted from TMC
You guys rock!

MacDaddyDude | January 25, 2014

What Stevez said! I did a similar analysis before reading that thread and came to the same conclusion. You can make Gallup to Flagstaff, but you'll need to watch your's uphill to Flagstaff!

Great story, great contrast between the journalist who wants it to fail...NEEDS it to fail, or he doesn't have a story, and this... It's all about the journey, not the destination, and how our focus really does determine our reality.

Safe travels!

drax7 | January 25, 2014

Get governor brown in the picture, have him send a motorcycle escort and a greetings ceremony.
Come on Californians !!!

r390a | January 25, 2014

Be sure to hit the Beach which is just 3 miles west of the Hawthorne SpC and get feet wet! Cheers!

Roamer@AZ USA | January 25, 2014

See the USA in a

How about;


What a great father daughter adventure.

Roamer@AZ USA | January 25, 2014

If you understood my post above you are old enough to need the chargers to be a little closer together so your bladder has the range....

lolachampcar | January 25, 2014

Come On California...... Get a large gaggle of MS' to meet up and do the train into town!!!!

Roamer@AZ USA | January 25, 2014

Driving on wide open Arizona interstates the highway patrol will usually leave you alone if you don't go more than nine over the posted. So max, pretty safe, cruise is 84.

California is not as understanding and has a max speed of 70 mph. The really weird thing in California is that everyone drives faster on the congested inner city freeways than the wide open desert stretches. My theory is it has something to do with the highway patrol using radar out on the open runs and giving up in the congested urban areas.

Just always seems funny that they drive faster when it's crowded and dangerous but slow down when it's wide open and straight. Palm Springs CA is the best example.

Butch | January 25, 2014

+1 on Stevezzzz' comment! Drive fast and take a quick 15 minute stop/charger in Holbrook; that's the Supercharger way, gets you there faster, gives you some break time to stretch, and let's you feel the local air!

Besides, Holbrook is an easy off at the east end of town, a mile to the Supercharger, another mile west and back on the highway. Doesn't get much easier than that!


Roamer@AZ USA | January 25, 2014

OK. Who out there in Tesla land is planning

Vancouver to Key West Super Charger all the way.

d_kaufman | January 25, 2014

Right. Even though there is a slight tailwind at the moment, if you can charge at greater than 250 mph, and it lets you drive at more than 80 instead of worrying and needing to drop below 70, it is worth a short stop.

moorelin | January 25, 2014

John was a very successful molecular biologist who published more than 50 scientific papers before he went off the science grid about 10 years ago. As another one from his generation who is still in the game, I am proud to see his achievement. Congratulations (in advance) John and Jill.

MacDaddyDude | January 25, 2014

+1 Roamer on the CHARGE ACROSS AMERICA slogan, and another +1 on the need for bladder breaks!

JohnGlenney | January 25, 2014

8:00 Having coffee at the Mariott in Flagstaff. Started at 65 mph and gradually upped to 75. We had 23 miles range left at the end. Full credit for this trip goes to Tesla. We are all passengers on this journey. I would also like to thank Graham at Tesla. 3 years ago I was on a waiting list for a leaf but I couldn't wait. I searched and found Tesla which wasn't well known outside California. I watched YouTube videos and read everything I could find. Finally I thought I better see this roadster for myself. So my wife Kim and I flew to San Francisco and visited their showroom in Palo Alto. The car sold itself and I told them I wanted it. Meanwhile hanging around the showroom, I talked to Graham, who was fresh out of college and a half dozen other people who wandered in and out. These were not salesmen, they were enthusiasts who were out to change the world! After I got back to Kentucky I called my financial adviser and told her I wanted to buy as much tesla stock as I could. She told me that was not a good idea since it was trading at $22/share and a lot of experts thought it was overvalued and Tesla may not make it as a company. I had never picked individual stocks before but I insisted. Two years later after the initial run up I decided to do what horse players should do and I cashed my ticket and went home. When you win a bet at the track, however, you are expected to spend it frivolously. I thought I would use at least part of it to promote the ev movement. So by then I had my model s, white performance, and I convinced Kim to buy one, a beautiful red with sun roof and I sold my ford truck that I used at the farm and got a green one. Kim has named them lilly (white), Ivy (green) and Rosie. We have Ivy on this trip because she has a "B" battery, thus can supercharge a little quicker and Lilly does not. But I felt I could do more. My older sister, Dorothy, lives in Houston and works as a nurse(she posted something on the first day. In the fall of 2012 she was diagnosed with cancer, so in winter she underwent surgery, chemo and radiation and was feeling down even though her prognosis was good. What could I possibly do to help. I bought her a white model s with sunroof, and drove it to Houston to surprise her. It turned out better than I hoped. She is a born again EVangelist and drives around south Texas with a big Tesla grin. Of course the doctors she works with can't stand the fact that her car is cooler than theirs so several have bought their own. So thanks Tesla, their is nothing else I could have bought her that would have this effect.

Bighorn | January 25, 2014

John and Jill
I read up on your previous adventure in the Roadster, John--what a great frame of reference to compare this to with the addition of superchargers and a co-conspirator! You both sound like great ambassadors for Tesla and the future of EVs. You do us all proud! I look forward to your travelogue as I hope to visit daughters on both coasts in the next few months.
P85+ from Big Horn, WY
PS Please don't base your opinion of WY on your two traverses--you successfully avoided all of the nice areas--Big Horns, Winds, Tetons, Yellowstone, etc.

JenAlJill13 | January 25, 2014

@Roamer: My wife and I will do the NY to LA to Seattle trip in the summer. If the I10 route is open then, we'll do NY to FL to CA to Seattle run. By then dozens of cross country trips will have happened and it won't be news, which is as it should be. Great job by J&J starting beofre the completion of the SC route, in the winter, on a northern route, in the extreme cold and snow. Gutsy but well planned, obviously. Congrats to both!!!

johnanniegibson | January 25, 2014

Congratulations. When you arrive at the Hawthorne charger (which is on the same facility as space X) there is a excellent reasturant at the Hawthorne airport ,which is a five minute walk (around space x)to get to. Do you have an ETA for Hawthorne yet. I would consider it a privelage to say hi to you guys. Thank you for making this journey I will be traveling to MI this July and I look forward to reading your notes and looking at pics. Continue to travel safe and if you need anything just ask the us (TESLA community).

STEVEZ | January 25, 2014

John, this story just keeps getting better! You must hold the record as the private individual with the most Tesla car purchases. And I love the sidebar about your sister and her docs. Way to represent!

Glad you made it to Flagstaff OK (I knew you would); but do you take my point about how driving faster and stopping more often can actually raise your average speed when the charging stops are at Superchargers?

Roamer@AZ USA | January 25, 2014

+1 SteveZ

I was pleasantly surprised on my first trip using super chargers that I really did not need to drive any different than usual. I was a little concerned that it would be painful to crawl along in the right lane on our wide open, long distance, AZ desert freeways. It was wonderful to learn that the S85 is so capable you can just drive it normally and Super Charge easily.

Tesla's Super Charger system is brilliant and like almost all things Tesla implemented correctly. It will only get better from here.

Tiebreaker | January 25, 2014

@lolachampcar +1

lolachampcar | JANUARY 25, 2014
Come On California...... Get a large gaggle of MS' to meet up and do the train into town!!!!

Yeah, California! A Tesla motorcade into town!

NKYTA | January 25, 2014

If I left the Bay Area now, I might just make it to help out with motorcade duties. Darn work. :-(

J&J keep up the great work! Flagstaff to Kingman is a pretty stretch of road.
Any snow in Flagstaff?

Pricee2 | January 25, 2014

J&J, thank you for putting a time on your post. It makes it feel like I am riding along with you even though the view is better from the drivers seat.

Rheumboy | January 25, 2014

I can see the headlines now: there was a huge traffic jam around Hawthorne, Elon Musk must of had an event at SpaceX. We interviewed two very tired drivers, a Jack and Jill, or John who were being carried off as the first to cross the country in a Tesla. John kept turning around yelling "don't touch my Tesla". They will be honored in New York with a ticker tape parade. Lindbergh would be proud!

moorelin | January 25, 2014

make that 20 years ago... | January 25, 2014


Also want to add my thanks at allowing us to be part of this amazing trip.


Mark Z | January 25, 2014

Passing through Barstow to SLC. SuperCharger looking good for the historic arrival today! Drive safe and enjoy the ride. | January 25, 2014

From a marketing perspective, I think this is even better than the proposed Elon trip--just two regular folks doing something extraordinary. :)