Heading cross country!

Heading cross country!

Drove from Kentucky to New York last week to pick up my daughter in Hoboken for my co- pilot. As I was exiting the freeway for JFK, I hit something in the road that blew out a tire and bent the rim. Called tesla service at 7:am Monday morning. They had a new tire and rim on by 9 am. Left JFK supercharger at 9:45. Stopped in Hoboken and on to Newark, De. Full range charge and left with 258 miles. Pulled into Somerset sc with 11 miles rang left. Somerset to Macedonia in 3 hrs. It was snowing so the leg to Maumee, Ohio was slow. Got in at 2:30 am and couldn't get to the supercharger because of the snow that hadn't been plowed. Went to a Hampton inn 1/2 mile away and called Tesla. The guy told me to get some sleep and he would see what he could do. I went back to the sc at 8 am and it was clear. Are these guys the best or what! Headed out to Mishawaka with temp at 6 degrees. I'll keep you up to date if there is interest.

NKYTA | January 25, 2014

+1 O

Shesmyne2 | January 25, 2014

Hi John & Jill,
By all means PLEASE let us in the Bay Area know when you may hit the factory in Fremont.
We would love to convoy over there with you & with all the Teslas here it would be great fun and quite a site.

Jill-Hoboken is a happening place now (was not like that when I lived in Jersey) so it's a great location for a starting her life 26 yr old. Good for you! Should be hella fun next weekend with the Superbowl in town!

Keep us posted and be safe out there.
Loving this forum!

Still Grinning ;-)

2-Star | January 25, 2014

A Bit of Automobile History

It's hard to imagine how anyone ever laughed off the automobile as a passing fad. But at the beginning of the 20th century, many people did.... Few people at the time suspected the automobile could overtake the horse as the most practical method of travel....

It's no wonder that a group of gentlemen, while gathered at San Francisco's University Club on May 19, 1903, were arguing that the automobile would fade away because it wasn't useful for long distances.

As it happened, a 31-year-old Vermont physician by the name of Horatio Nelson Jackson was passing through San Francisco, and he was there that night participating in the conversation. He disagreed with the other men, arguing that the automobile had a great future. And what's more, he maintained that he could successfully drive one across the country -- a feat that few had attempted and none had yet accomplished. He even bet $50 that he could do it in less than 90 days.

Excerpted from Google:

What was the first cross-country U.S. road trip?
by Jane McGrath

in "How Stuff Works"

djm12 | January 25, 2014

If leaving Flagstaff at 8am, about 480 miles from Hawthorne, CA, ETA about 5-6pm tonight?

RedShift | January 25, 2014

Would love to be part of the Fremont convoy. Please let us know.

Pricee2 | January 25, 2014

Someone please post Bjorn style video of the arrival in So Cal today.

oildeathspiral | January 25, 2014

Elon lives in Bel Air, about 20 miles from the Hawthorne SC, Design Center and SpaceX facilities. Wouldn't it be great if he happened to be "at the office" when John and Jill arrived?

CalDreamin | January 25, 2014
BobN @US-CA-SoCal | January 25, 2014

Has anyone alerted the media? Or do you figure they monitor these forums...

NKYTA | January 25, 2014

Judging by how the media has picked up on the negative threads in this forum, one would hope that they are also tracking the positive. But of course, negative and sensational is the way the press runs these days. :-/

But for J&J, all grins!
:-) :-)

Are they to Kingman yet? C'mon, updates, updates!

JohhnyS | January 25, 2014

We will meet you in Hawthorne if you can give us an E.T.A. Perhaps we could have a convoy on the 105 freeway.

JohnGlenney | January 25, 2014

11:01 Rolled into Kingman with Jill driving. After a long drive we are both in good spirits. What a beautiful part of the country. When we left on Monday this Charger wasn't open yet. Thanks to all our spies from these forums that convinced me that it wouldn't be a problem. This trip is for all of you too. Anticipating the border patrol, Jill is clearing out the apples and oranges from the car. 209 miles on this next leg so we may charge to max before leaving. Thanks to all for riding along with us. When I made the first post I wasn't sure there would be interest. The words of encouragement have been comforting. Before we left, I described the trip to non-ev people and they asked why I was doing this, and the only response was "because we can!". Tesla has removed the last compromise to ev ownership. When I bought my first model s there was no hint of a fast charging network just around the corner, and I would have been fine without it, but now it seems so logical. I wonder how other car companies will respond? I don't think they can just ignore it and hope it goes away. I feel a tipping point approaching. 250 miles range now so we are off.

DavidN | January 25, 2014

Reminds me of 40 years ago when I flew a Piper J-3 Cub from New York to LA. With a maximum airspeed of 70 mph (and because of prevailing headwinds, an average groundspeed of 55-60 mph), it took 9 days and 41 stops for gas. My max range was about 120 miles, about half of my Tesla's. No radio or navigation equipment, just an Esso highway map on my lap.

I generally followed I-80, and I-70, including the stretch west of Albuquerque that myfastlady is currently driving. Flagstaff to Kingman, as I recall, was 130 miles, just beyond my range, so I had to stop at a little airport 30 miles west of Flagstaff and top off with about two gallons of gas. I remember Kingman well, because as I was waiting in the pilot's lounge for the plane to be refueled, I watched Nixon resign on the TV.

Hopefully you'll have better luck than I did through the Banning Pass. Headwind was about 40 mph, and I was losing ground to a VW Microbus a few hundred feet below me. As an experiment, I throttled back to minimum speed, and by measuring the progress of my shadow, was able to determine that my groundspeed was 13 mph.

Congrats on a great trip. It takes a lot of guts to start before the last two Superchargers are even working, and to brave Minnesota and South Dakota in January.

JohnGlenney | January 25, 2014

Someone else may be able to give our ETA better then I can.

JohhnyS | January 25, 2014

Let us know when you leave Barstow--I think it should be about 2 1/2 hours from Barstow to Hawthorne.

assaf.oron | January 25, 2014

@myfastlady, Google Maps say 5 hours Kingman-LAX. Give another hour for SC stop and delays, and take 1 hour off for time zone(!), you're looking at a 4-5 PM arrival Pacific time, at the latest.

Assuming Jill's flight is a red-eye, there should be plenty of time for someone to throw you a welcome party in LA. Is there anything planned?

Is anyone around LA able to improvise anything on the spot?

Thanks for sharing so many personal stories. Given your relentless EV ambassador feats involving your family, you and Jill are the perfect people to do this trip.

BobN @US-CA-SoCal | January 25, 2014

A thought - if anyone in LA is considering meeting John and Jill at the Barstow Supercharger and caravanning in with them, you should leave NOW, so you can recharge and clear the spots for them to use when they get there - duh.

johnanniegibson | January 25, 2014

We are enroute to Hawthorne. We are charging at tejon ranch and will be on the road in 20 min. As I posted earlier the eureka kitchen has excellent burgers and room for plenty of us. I will repost when we get closer to ask if there is anything we can do to provide a warm California/tesla welcome.

CalDreamin | January 25, 2014

Please save a charging bay at Hawthorne for J&J :-)

NKYTA | January 25, 2014

@Cal, great idea.
@johann, represent for us NorCal owners too please.
This is just so awesome!

Pricee2 | January 25, 2014

I am estimating their arrival at Barstow at about 2PM PST.

Pricee2 | January 25, 2014

Evtripper puts at 126 miles from Barstow to Hawthorne SpC and 130 rated miles at a speed factor of 1.0. Maybe someone that travels that route can give a time estimate considering TOD and traffic.

I would think that if Tesla wants to they can track where they are at.

Jamon | January 25, 2014

I love how this thread had turned out. For the first couple days I thought the greatest news was that Tesla came to you and fixed the tire and rim in 2 hrs at JFK, then somehow had the snow plowed in the early hours of the morning for you to reach the supercharger. Those 2 events alone speak volumes for TMs customer service. For this to become the first cross country EV trip using only superchargers - all for free! - is fabulous! Thanks for letting us enjoy the journey with you in real time! The revolution is on!!

CalDreamin | January 25, 2014

Google maps currently says 1 hour 53 minutes from the Barstow SC to Hawthorne SC.

Captain_Zap | January 25, 2014

From the hometown of Seattle Slew, my hat is off to you, John. It is very clear that you can size up a young winner when they are still finding their legs. You did it with racehorses and in the race to find the most promising revolution in transportation.

“Call to the Post” still gives me goose bumps. One of the considerations when I ordered my Model S was that it had to make it to Emerald Downs, be able to sit all day, and make it back to the stable with plenty of energy left to spare.

Handicapping is a favorite hobby of mine. I manage a brood mare farm too. I have placed plenty of wagers on your horses.

The trainer is my foremost consideration when handicapping.
My wager is on you and Tesla too.

JohnGlenney | January 25, 2014

1:30 pm, 63 miles from Barstow, 86 mile range, see you soon

Mark22 | January 25, 2014

Thank you John and Jill for sharing your journey!

hillcountryfun | January 25, 2014

Damn, wish I lived in CA right now, I'd come join the celebration!! What a wonderful adventure you both have shared with us!!

Thank you.

Shesmyne2 | January 25, 2014

Someone please post pictures when you greet them!!

Still Grinning ;-) | January 25, 2014

I'll be down in SJ Tuesday and Wednesday - would love to join the Fremont caravan if it works out.


logicalthinker | January 25, 2014

Somebody set up a few cameras to record the historic moment of their arrival at the Supercharger.

Somebody CALL THE local PRESS. Please. This IS news. It literally is like the joining of the cross-continental railroad.

Stop by a quick drive-thru touchless car wash, etc, before you arrive, myfastlady... Remember the press is going to be crowding and taking photos!

Pricee2 | January 25, 2014

I would not wash it so that it does not look like it was a staged event.

logicalthinker | January 25, 2014

This is headline news... Charge Across The USA... for FREE!!!

The US can now be driven across for free, with no compromise, in a Tesla electric sedan. And it just now has been done -- in the dead of winter.

Another point: pick up as much stock as you can before this hits the news.

Captain_Zap | January 25, 2014

I have contacts for local ABC and NBC in Seattle but none in the California.

How far until the home stretch?

First out of the starting gate. Fine race planning and gate training there. Running the race before the course was even completed.

A very clever competitor we have here!

michael.konen | January 25, 2014

We're trying to get some additional owners through TMC and FB. Keep updating us with times so we can relay the messages.

logicalthinker | January 25, 2014

OK fair enough re: washing it. It'll look plenty gorgeous even all dusty.

lolachampcar | January 25, 2014

I too wish I were in CA to join the caravan. Have fun all and PICS PLEASE.

Captain_Zap | January 25, 2014

This is like watching Zenaytta's big race on an internet forum!


michael.konen | January 25, 2014

Any updates about being in Barstow yet? I think it was estimated that they'd be there around this time (2PM CST).

gill_sans | January 25, 2014

Amazing! We're all rooting for you. This thread is the most fun since Tesla psychosis.

Anyone willing to live-stream J&J's arrival at Hawthorne? Can't wait to see photos.

skymaster | January 25, 2014

The excitement is building!! Plenty of pics and video PLEASE!!

lolachampcar | January 25, 2014

Need photos leaving Barstow.... Number of MS'????

johnanniegibson | January 25, 2014

We just arrived in Hawthorne. The chargers are awaiting your arrival it is a a beautiful 70F degrees. I was reminded by my wife that before we left the house we printed off a flat stanley for the kid on another thread who is trying to get flat Stanley to visit all of the superchargers. We photographed flat Stanley at Tejon and at Hawthorne. We will be passing flat Stanley off in hopes that he gets to visit many a supercharger on the return trip. I will post the pics as soon as I can find the instructions for posting pics in the other threads.

My fast lady is there anything I can get for you before you arrive?

hillcountryfun | January 25, 2014

Wow, I'm proud of the entire Tesla community!! Way to go everyone!!

logicalthinker | January 25, 2014

OK I'm on pins and needles. Scanning news reports locally... Nothing concerning.

Updates, myfastlady! Please.

lolachampcar | January 25, 2014

Those local to LA please post the emails for the local news channels and I'll start an email campaign.

johnanniegibson | January 25, 2014

Anybody know how to post pics from an iPhone?

AtlantaCourier | January 25, 2014

"Save You Money!"

When I think back over the last 48 years of my life, it occurs to me that entire industries exist - and thrive - SOLELY because we want to believe in a better, brighter future.

Knowing this, they continuously and relentlessly assault the consumer with every manner of clever scheme, message, and marketing device designed to make us believe that, somehow, some way, their product is going to "save you money" or make your life better.

Then, once they get a foot in the door, the message all-too-often becomes:

"How can we best screw the customer?"

Especially bad among these are companies whose schemes and products involve the usage and saving of energy.

There are too many examples to list here, but I would like to point out that, while perhaps not as despicable as some of the others, "big auto" is not without guilt here.

Today, we fire a warning shot across the bow of traditional automakers. What's the message?

"The days of fat, lazy automakers that fail to innovate are numbered."

Today, we give the idea of complacency in the auto industry a good, hard shove towards the exit door. Today is also a backlash against every gimmick that ever "came down the turnpike.”

Today, we ring the bell of progress.

And today, we openly declare that, despite the disingenuous companies and individuals who prey upon our sincerest hopes, we still believe the future can be a better place.

Today we recognize and thank Tesla for respecting the customer, for delivering quality products, and most of all, for staying true!

And lastly, thank you John and Jill for "driving" the point home!

logicalthinker | January 25, 2014

Here's the man making history, as far as I can tell...

gill_sans | January 25, 2014

@johnanniegibson Thank you for being a part of J&J's welcoming committee! It might be easiest to tweet your photos. Otherwise you might need to upload them first to Flickr or similar, then create links to them in order to share them in this thread. It's straightforward to set up a Twitter account if you haven't already.