HOV lanes in states other than the state your vehicle is registered in.

HOV lanes in states other than the state your vehicle is registered in.

Is the Tesla allowed to use the HOV lanes in states other than the state registered in. Particularly Calif with a vehicle registered in Oregon.

aesculus | May 18, 2015

I doubt it because you have to have a special sticker, not just be an EV. And it appears the stickers are only issued for DMV registered cars.

DTsea | May 19, 2015

Nope. Drive solo in HOV lane in WA and you will get a ticket.

MountainVoyageur | May 21, 2015

Don't any states have reciprocal agreements?

Red Sage ca us | May 22, 2015

It was announced last year that Caslifornia and seven other states would honor each others' HOV markings. I do not know if this has begun yet or not.

DTsea | May 22, 2015

WA doesnt allow SOV operation by EVs so dont try it here.

TaoJones | June 3, 2015

Here would be those other 7 progressive states and sure enough, WA is not part of the list. Fortunately, OR is. Looks like salvation lies within New England, NY, CA and OR. Yeah, that's about right.

See in particular bullet point número tres below. Ah - naturally bullets won't paste and I'm two ales past looking up the ASCII to put them back. I offset the relevant paragraph with spaces instead.

Quoted text from AFDC:

Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Deployment Support
California joined Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Vermont in signing a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to support the deployment of ZEVs through involvement in a ZEV Program Implementation Task Force (Task Force). In May 2014, the Task Force published a ZEV Action Plan (Plan) identifying 11 priority actions to accomplish the goals of the MOU, including deploying at least 3.3 million ZEVs and adequate fueling infrastructure within the signatory states by 2025. The Plan also includes a research agenda to inform future actions. On an annual basis, each state must report on the number of registered ZEVs, the number of public electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE) and hydrogen fueling stations, and available information regarding workplace fueling for ZEVs. Each state also committed to:

Support ZEV commercialization through consistent statewide building codes and standards for installing EVSE, streamlined metering options for homes equipped with EVSE, opportunities to reduce vehicle operating costs, increased electric system efficiency through time-of-use electricity rates and net metering for electric vehicles, and integrating ZEVs with renewable energy initiatives;
Establish ZEV purchase targets for governmental agency fleets, explore opportunities for coordinated vehicle and fueling station equipment procurement, work to provide public access to government fleet fueling stations, and include commitments to use ZEVs in state contracts with auto dealers and car rental companies where appropriate;

Evaluate the need for, and effectiveness of, monetary incentives to reduce the upfront purchase price of ZEVs as well as non-monetary incentives, such as high occupancy vehicle lane access, reduced tolls, and preferential parking, and pursue these incentives as appropriate;

Work to develop uniform standards to promote ZEV consumer acceptance and awareness, industry compliance, and economies of scale, including adopting universal signage, common methods of payment and interoperability of EVSE networks, and reciprocity among states for non-monetary ZEV incentives;
Cooperate with vehicle manufacturers, electricity and hydrogen providers, the fueling infrastructure industry, corporate fleet owners, financial institutions, and others to encourage ZEV market growth;
Share research and develop a coordinated education and outreach campaign to highlight the benefits of ZEVs, including collaboration with related national and regional initiatives; and
Assess and develop potential deployment strategies and infrastructure requirements for the commercialization of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.

TaoJones | June 3, 2015

In any case that pretty much answers the gripe as to why/how EVs, regardless of persons therein, can use HOV lanes in proactive states at least unless/until targets are reached in 2023. Welcome to public policy and the art of incenting the masses.

Brian H | June 4, 2015

The hole in the bottom of their bucket is hydrogen and its distribution costs.

Red Sage ca us | June 5, 2015

"Assess and develop potential deployment strategies and infrastructure requirements for the commercialization of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles."


LizzieG | June 6, 2015

and we cab look forward to all this by 2025 :)

By then we'll likely have full autonomous cars and EVs that deliver 1,000 miles of range making charging infrastructure almost irrelevant. | June 6, 2015

1000 mile battery pack might be overkill. Too heavy. Too expensive. Too long to charge.
But in 2025 who knows?

Red Sage ca us | June 6, 2015

Well, the battery cells used in the Model S were announced by Panasonic in late 2009... Chosen by Tesla Motors in late 2010... Modified for EV use, to JB Straubel's specifications... Then released for the 2012 launch of the car. Assuming that it takes ten years to double capacity... The same quantity of battery cells in 2019 would weigh the same and provide 170 kWh capacity as 85 kWh today. That would increase to 340 kWh by 2029. Alternatively, an 85 kWh battery pack might take up only 25% of the space and weight as today, also improving range.

MountainVoyageur | June 10, 2015

1000 mile battery pack might be overkill. Too heavy. Too expensive. Too long to charge. But in 2025 who knows?

Note that it can be charged to 300 miles much faster than an 85 kWh pack can. Longer range is certainly an attractive aspect of a bigger battery pack, but much faster charging to a more moderate range (when you do not need the full range) is also very attractive.

Red Sage ca us | June 13, 2015

MountainVoyageur: Precisely. When a 135-to-170 kWh battery pack weighs half as much as today's 85 kWh capacity, a 350 mile cruising range at speed will be available with plenty of reserve to find the next Supercharger. Unfortunately, the people who want this most aren't willing to wait until circa 2027 to get it. They'd much rather bellyache about it today, claiming EVs 'aren't ready for prime time' and stuff.