Is the HPWC considered a Level 2 Charger?

Is the HPWC considered a Level 2 Charger?

I began to do a little research into the cost of owning one of these cars and my electric company offers lower rates at night if and only if I have a Level 2 charger installed. Would the HPWC count as a Level 2 Charger?

michael1800 | May 27, 2013

Yes. 240V AC is considered Level 2.

ajamison | May 27, 2013

They are even ready to go as far as to provide a 2,500 reimbursement for the installation and purchase of a Level 2 Charging system to the first 2500 people to ask for it and qualify lol I guess there are not enough people asking in Michigan because Consumer Energy is still offering this.

DouglasR | May 27, 2013

Not also that a 240 volt outlet (e.g., NEMA 14-50) is also a Level 2 charging facility. It is MUCH cheaper than an HPWC to purchase and install.

DouglasR | May 27, 2013

Edit: NOTE also . . .

michael1800 | May 27, 2013

To add to this, both a NEMA 14-50 socket and a HPWC provide 240V (Level 2 Charging). It seems a lot of people are getting $2K+ quotes for a HPWC install. That with the unit itself comes to $3,700, making the install effectively cost $1,200 with your power company's reimbursement. If you have dual chargers, it seems like a good deal, providing you need the speedy charges at home. Otherwise, a simple NEMA 14-50 install ($100-$500 in many cases) works, though that's not really taking advantage of the incentive.

You raise a good point though: Many power companies offer incentives to EV owners, but most people won't find out about them unless they ask. I discovered a few days ago Gulf Power will actually give me a $1k rebate for purchasing my Tesla. Nice surprise!

jat | May 27, 2013

@DouglasR - only if you don't count the UMC; otherwise it isn't that much cheaper. Personally, I didn't want to have to pack/unpack the UMC and I wanted to have it with me. Being able to charge twice as fast when I get home after work and need to head out of town is a nice bonus too.

Brian H | May 28, 2013

Appearance and one-step connection are appealing to many.

lolachampcar | May 28, 2013

.... I did the OpenEVSE for $600 (did the install myself as well) with no rebates. It is not for everyone but, if you are curious like me, it was good fun.

ajamison | May 28, 2013

If i am able to get one of these cars I am likely to go with the HPWC just because with that incentive it may be worth it. Sadly though even if I had the funds to pull the trigger today my current residence is a town home in a bank of other town homes and the land lord said no to altering the electrical structure understandably so.

Which means that in order to have an electric car i would need to charge on a 120v outlet which is less then optimal or go spend a few hours at the community college using their Public charger.

So for me its likely i need a new place first to facilitate charging.

Brian H | May 28, 2013

Or move.

ajamison | May 29, 2013

Brian H I refer you to the last sentence above

So for me its likely [b]i need a new place[/b] first to facilitate charging.

Brian H | May 29, 2013

Understood it to say a new charging place, not necessarily place to live.

Lots of rental and high-rise owners are going to have trouble getting charging. A commercial garage that wired itself up and offered the service might do very well.