Marital Disagreement

Marital Disagreement

Ok, so I have driven my TMS for less than 2500 miles and have had 2 flat tires. One was a nail, so understandable. The second was a full blow out. Because I live in Oregon, there are no tire places open to service my tire situation on a Sunday - and of course I had the blow-out on a Sunday. So question is this: my husband now insists that I carry a spare, a hydraulic jack, all the other stuff required to change a flat myself. I am so worried that all this extra weight in the car is dangerous. Anyone have any input on this?? Thanks much!

jimglas | May 18, 2020

I do the same when traveling in rural areas for work.
Its a nuisance, but the extra weight is not "dangerous"

akikiki | May 18, 2020

Is that a Model S or a bicycle? Carrying a spare on a bicycle might be dangerous, but certainly not a car.
Is this your first car? Do we even need to point out that most cars carried spares for the last 75+ years?

barrykmd | May 18, 2020

A better question is would you be comfortable changing your own tire on a 5000 lb (er, 5030 lb car with the spare) car?

RAR | May 18, 2020

And if you do, make sure you know exactly where the jack point is.

Many bicycle riders do carry a spare, particularly for high performance road bikes. | May 18, 2020

@btracy - Seems like bad luck. Did you try Tesla's Roadside service? They usually carry the tires needed for Tesla and should be available 24/7. I haven't had a flat tire in 10+ years. 7+ on Teslas, but every area is different.

I'd not be concerned about keeping an extra tire, etc. as far as being dangerous to you. Do you really want to be fixing a tire - on a busy road, in possibly bad weather? Let roadside service handle it and avoid the extra cost, weight (which reduces range), and consumption of cargo space. Tires also don't smell the best, so you may not like having one in the trunk, as it's not really isolated from the cabin. Lastly, if none of those concerns bother you, a panic stop may toss that tire through the rear window if it isn't secured properly.

Seems about 30-40% of new cars do not include a spare tire anymore. Generally, tires are quite reliable, but as you discovered, not always. Good luck whatever you decide.

jimglas | May 18, 2020

the problem with relying on roadside service is that in rural areas there may not be cell coverage

barrykmd | May 18, 2020

RAR | May 18, 2020
Many bicycle riders do carry a spare, particularly for high performance road bikes.

Not only do I carry a spare, I carry a patch kit. I've had more than one flat on a single ride. | May 18, 2020

@jimglas - Good point. Very rare for me to be without cell coverage, but I do have a 5-mile segment I occasional drive that has no coverage. I do carry a tire repair kit and compressor. I've never had to use it yet.

RedShift | May 18, 2020

Every car has a GVWR rating. Your car will have plenty of headroom for carrying stuff.

I would not worry about the extra weight.

PrescottRichard | May 18, 2020

I’d say just strap down the spare in the back, keep the jack someplace where it won’t come at you were you to hit something. the jack will fit in the Frunk, right?

SbMD | May 18, 2020

@btracy - as others have said, if it is more realistic and overall safer for you to change your own tire on your Tesla rather than have Roadside Assistance do it, then a spare and a Jack are important to have. Aside from the above points, the wheel nut torque for the MS is 129, much higher than the average car. No matter who you are, that's nothing to sneeze at, as you wouldn't want to under-tighten.

p.c.mcavoy | May 18, 2020

For those that say no risk to safety carrying a spare, I would not make that argument for a full size spare carried in the frunk of an original nosecone MS. The stiffness of the spare tire in the trunk in the case of a front-end collision will significantly influence the ability of the front crumple zone to do its job.

I also understand the comments that changing a tire on the side of the road in many situations is a pretty risky situation.

Yodrak. | May 18, 2020

" I am so worried that all this extra weight in the car is dangerous."

I take it you never let your husband, or any other passenger, who would weigh several times more than the spare tire and jack, ride with you due to the danger of their extra weight?

Daisy the Road ... | May 18, 2020

That husband is (hopefully) strapped in with a seatbelt. One has to go out of one's way to properly anchor a wheel in the back of the Tesla.

murphyS90D | May 19, 2020

If you must carry a full size spare put it upright on the floor of the backseat on the passenger side. Move the front passenger seat back until the spare is captured between the passenger seat back and the rear seat cushion.

Tldickerson | May 19, 2020

Why not just get a AAA card and put it in your pocket. Save damaging your car.

Bill_75D | May 19, 2020

Regarding strapping a spare tire in the trunk, how many of you carry one or more 40-50 pound suitcases? Do you strap them down for safety?

barrykmd | May 19, 2020

Bill - round things tend to move more easily than rectangular things.

thranx | May 19, 2020

General curiosity, btracy: what size wheels are on your S? 21", 20, or 19?

Aerodyne | May 19, 2020

Dano +1. Get the tire pump and sealant kit from Tesla. 90% chance your next tire failure will be a puncture, not a blowout.

Carry a spare if you must for long road trips.

Do your own tire rotations and inspect. Caught at least 2 nails that way, that were not leaking yet.

TonyB.C120 | May 19, 2020

Another option: Get a can of tire puncture sealer from the auto parts store. Make sure it is one made for cars with tire pressure monitoring systems. Those will say "Safe for TPMS" or something to that effect. I carry one in the frunk bundled up with other stuff so it doesn't bounce about on the road.

jimglas | May 19, 2020

you cannot use the "puncture sealer or the tesla kit due to the sound deadening foam in the tires

Bighorn | May 19, 2020

Get a compressor and learn how to plug a tire. It’s not difficult. Those two things will cover 90% of circumstances—you often get by by reinflating a slow leak. Do not get sealant. Do not carry a spare.

Bighorn | May 19, 2020

Get a compressor and learn how to plug a tire. It’s not difficult. Those two things will cover 90% of circumstances—you often get by by reinflating a slow leak. Do not get sealant. Do not carry a spare.

Tldickerson | May 19, 2020

@jimglas , not all Tesla's come with the foam.

jimglas | May 19, 2020

good to know. Both of mine did.

Bighorn | May 19, 2020

Regardless, Slime is a bad idea.

rxlawdude | May 19, 2020

@Bighorn, why did I immediately visualize an orange slimeball?

Bighorn | May 19, 2020

Don’t know if that’s a Nickelodeon or Trump reference:)

NKYTA | May 19, 2020

I know. ;-)

btracy | May 20, 2020

Thanks everyone (well almost everyone) I live in a rural part of the state where roadside assistance is not always available, nor cell service. To be specific, my concern wasn't so much carrying the extra weight, but the location of where I put the spare and jack (which by the way is very heavy - exact weight unkown). I have both rear seats down because I don't like trying to see over the headrests of the back seat.
I have since driven the car with everything in it and had a hard time getting much acceleration. I like all your sarcastic comments, just not the mean ones. I was hoping for helpful, respectful comments - so thank you for those of you who did. And my tires are 19" for the person who asked.

Daisy the Road ... | May 20, 2020

I find it difficult to believe that you had a hard time getting acceleration. Even if you doubled the weight of the car it would still have fairly snappy acceleration.

murphyS90D | May 21, 2020

The wheel and jack don't add enough weight to have a noticeable effect on acceleration. It is after all a 5 passenger car. Verify that you didn't accidentally turn on CHILL mode. That makes a noticeable difference in acceleration.

frankben | May 21, 2020

I use to carry the compressor with the sealant and found out that my tires had a foam liner to keep them quiet. If you have this tires the sealant won't work. i found out the hard way when one of my tires was punctured and i tried to use the kit. Ended up getting the tow from Tesla and tire had to be replaced. This was on a performance S 85 2014.

Tropopause | May 21, 2020

Dare I say, Run-Flats?

SbMD | May 21, 2020

Not a bad thought, @trop, when road conditions are chronically bad and roadside assistance access is limited. Not ideal for other reasons, of course, but I had the same thought, FWIW.