Model S options

Model S options

Let's discuss what options we need in the model S.
I can start by listing some luxury car essentials:
1. Rear view camera
2. Parking sensors
3. Adaptive cruise control
4. Highway lane departure sensors
5. Headlights turning with a turn of the wheel
6. Premium sound with capability to store MP3 songs
7. DVD video for back seats
8. Tire pressure sensors

Also looking for some electric car features like:
1. GPS to show electric driving range radius
2. Temperature of the batteries
3. GPS to estimate charge needed to reach destination
4. Instant efficiency measure of some kind (similar to instant mpg)

Roblab | February 11, 2011

My appologies. I agree with what you say, but the idea of eliminating disagreements based on beliefs doesn't seem logical. Neither does finding endless energy. I think our efforts at present for global increase seem to be aimed at finding another planet to destroy.

Timo | February 11, 2011

Endless energy would solve many things, not all. As I wrote there would still be cultural and religious differences.

For when it happens, it is only matter of time. You might get surprised in next...lets say ten or maybe twenty years.

For eliminating moronic religions and cultural disputes, we are still too close to apes to have evolved beyond those.

searcher | February 11, 2011

timo Your comment "then we are a world without suffering of any kind". It's in the works, be there.

Kallisman | February 12, 2011

I didn't know apes are religious, or even have much culture.

dsm363 | February 12, 2011

Apes do prefer talking about Model S options though.

Jay Gatsby | September 3, 2011

Most Important Options that I would appreciate, related to comforts and safety:

Forced air conditioned seats ( Desert Southwest Summer Heat) to keep my back dry and cool.

Bi-Xenon headlights - this option on our 2008 Mercedes GL is an unbelievably effective lighting system, adding significantly to safety in nighttime driving.

petersv | September 6, 2011

Timo, if you don't like the options that saves hundreds of lives every year, fine with me, but then again you are probably not in the desired buyers group of Tesla anyway..

You know, fitting every toilet in the world with a huge b*ttpl*g would probably make people poop less as well.

Fathom7 | September 14, 2011

The lone question I would ask in the options category is this: Why not incorporate solar panels into the sunroof of the sedan to charge while sitting outside after a trip? The other items mentioned -- well at least some of them -- I tend to concur with one of the other posters: It seems as though the requested options are to compensate for drivers with less than full attention, less than full comprehension of the task of driving and thus simply wish for more bells and whistles that may match other luxury brands. As presented, the Model S appears to be just the thing for my taste. I do wonder how the 7 passenger configuration number was reached but -- for two or three or four -- my limit -- this will do just fine.

Larry Chanin | September 14, 2011

How about a small temporary spare tire with a jack in a convenient storage nook in the front.


rshaffer | September 14, 2011

Adding to the list.
• Keyless entry
• Front and rear cameras for parking
• A lot of us do not have iphone products so ideally a hook up that is universal with Windows Phone, Android, Black Berry, iphone, etc….
• Exterior Illuminated entry system (i.e. lights under side mirrors)
• Dual-zone climate control
• Universal transceiver to operate compatible garage, gate, home lighting and home security systems

jbunn | September 15, 2011

Bluetooth stereo inputs, upgradeable screen software, modularity so when 3G goes to 4G goes to 5G, we don't have to replace the entire car. Also "skins" for the display, and upgradeable display processors and memory. Think about your 5 year old dying laptop, and compare that to a car that you expect to own for over 10 years.

In the 70's cars were shot at 100K miles. Hate to think that Teslas will suffer the same fate from "outdated" software.

Finaly, range management. Show me charging on my route, and if I enter an addresss to go to, show me my range to get there and back. This tells me if I can run my side errand or end up pushing my car the last mile. If I get in my car in Seattle in the morning, I'd like to see a state map of how far i can get, or if desired, how far I can get and return as a radius or itenerary.

Tesla doesnt need to build all this. App developers will provide if they create a set of APIs and open platform.

Volker.Berlin | September 15, 2011

The lone question I would ask in the options category is this: Why not incorporate solar panels into the sunroof of the sedan to charge while sitting outside after a trip? (Fathom7)

Here are two more threads on the same topic. I just link them together b/c this question is bound to pop up again and again...

To summarize: The opinion here in the Tesla forum is that solar panels (as can be found on the Fisker Karma) are merely for coolness and (pseudo) green image. The amount of electricity generated by a photo voltaic area as small as the roof and/or bonnet of a passenger car is so small, that a) it is not really good for anything except maybe running an additional fan while the car is sitting in the sun, and b) if you want to run an additional fan you could as well draw the power from the main battery which would not be affected much. Photo voltaic cells need to be produced, integrated into the car's electricity, and maintained -- at the current state of technology, it does not seem worth the trouble.

Brian H | September 16, 2011

non only not worth the trouble, but insanely more expensive than providing the equivalent trivial additional battery capacity. Or, IOW, just using the existing battery and charging for 5 min. extra to replace all those hours of low-output solar feed from the roof panel, etc.

Bottom line: it's financially stoopid.

Timo | September 17, 2011

It depends what kind of solar cell you are using. There are very cheap solar cells now. If you don't even try to maximize output from relatively small space it would not cost much, not much more than paintjob that area of the car would get anyway. That obviously would not benefit car range in any way but it could be enough to keep some small fan spinning when parked in the sun and as so keep the interiors a bit cooler, and maybe prevent battery charge degradation if parked there for a very long time by providing small charge when sun is shining.

Larry Chanin | September 17, 2011

Hi Timo,

Can you be more specific regarding which solar cells wouldn't be much more than a paint job? wouldn't you be limited to a special type of light weight, flexible solar cell for this application? I doubt any solar cell selected would be as light as a paint job. ;-)


Timo | September 17, 2011

Wouldn't cost much more that paint job. They weight a bit more, but not much. You can now get solar cells that are nothing more than tint in the window, they do not need to weight much.

Current cost of cheapest practical solar cell is less than $1/W, but those require large area for practical amounts of energy. From such a solar cell car roof would probably gain something like 50W max (IE. $50) but that is plenty for spinning a fan inside the car.

Not that it is wort the complexity, just to point out that there are very cheap and light solar cells out now. Cheap enough that they could generate electricity cheaper than coal in good place, if the area is not an restriction.

Schlermie | September 17, 2011

Does anyone know if the panoramic glass roof will open? I've only seen pictures of it closed, but it's split down the middle right where you would expect a split if it opened.

Larry Chanin | September 17, 2011


The prototype that I viewed had a glass sunroof opening in the panoramic roof. Like typical sunroofs it opened over the driver and front passenger.


Larry Chanin | September 17, 2011
Charged_Up | September 17, 2011

one thing that i've always loved in my mercedes sedan is that the air conditioning flows through the storage compartment between the front two seats - allows you to keep something cool in hot weather. small thing, but quite useful....

Brian H | September 19, 2011

Has anyone seen an 'S' with a front license plate? I'm really curious how that is going to be mounted.

Thumper | September 19, 2011

There has been a discussion of this on the Tesla Motors club site.

Teslover | September 22, 2011

Is there the option of an trailer coupling in this car?

Volker.Berlin | September 22, 2011

@Teslover, Tesla has been explicit in a recent blog post:

Will a towbar, tow hitch, or roof racks be options on Model S?

Jerome: We are not planning to offer a tow bar or hitch; Model S is a performance sedan. The standard roof will accommodate roof racks that mount on door frames. That said, because the Model S will have nearly twice the storage capacity of other sedans in its class, we suggest using the front or rear cargo areas to carry your gear.

There has been some speculation in this thread as to what the reasons might be for this decision:

It may have to do with the fact that the Model S has an all-aluminum chassis, or they may fear bad press for the adverse effects of a trailer on the range (additional air and rolling resistance). Or maybe they just did not get around to do it in time, and will offer that option later. We do not know.

Brian H | September 22, 2011

But what about the Model X?

Timo | September 22, 2011

I would find it very odd if it wouldn't have that as option.

SD in the OC | October 28, 2011

1) Lane Assist
2) Rear Camera
3) Adaptive Cruie
4) Parking Assist

Mel. | October 29, 2011

Only have 2 options that I would really like. 1. Heads-up display like the corvette, BMW and even Lexus has.2.tire pressure readout.

juxtapos99 | October 29, 2011

Just look at the 2012 Volvo S60 (or Audi A6/A8) to get an idea of what should be available standard and as options.

The S60 has many collision avoidance features, so think - do you want a shiny new Model S rear ending your shiny new Model S? Probably not. IIHS had a recent study that showed the 2011 Volvo XC60 had 25% fewer fender bender claims than other luxury SUVs in its class due to the standard collision avoidance features ("City Safety").

As far as convenience, I would expect all of the above and more, maybe a few coming standard but many as options. I have 1-5 and 8 of the original post on my current vehicle. A front view camera would be a nice touch as well.

What I'd like to see additionally, 2-4 years out:

Advanced Adaptive Cruise Control that uses GPS to recognize intersections and can stop at red lights and stop signs.

Active Steering that maintains lane position.

Inter-vehicle communication so I know a car is about to run a red light before it sideswipes me.

Yes folks, cars that mostly drive themselves would be a nice touch and these new features always start at the luxury end and trickle down. Collision avoidance is key with comfort and convenience features being at least optional add-ons.

jsanok | October 29, 2011

When I go out to buy a luxury car the salesman goes through all the bells and whistles while I look and listen with amusement. 75% I will never use just like 90% of all the features on my Iphone. I suppose they are required, however, all I need is styling, ride and comfort. If my butt is not heated or cooled I really don't care. Now if some day a car company perfects the legendary suck-o-matic feature, I'm sold.

ThomasN | October 30, 2011

I'm really hoping for intermittent windshield wipers. It's what always seals the deal, when I'm at a car dealership.

Volker.Berlin | October 30, 2011

I'm really hoping for intermittent windshield wipers. (ThomasN)

If the Model S is to compete with 5 series, A6, E class, then you can take that as a given. Where by "intermittent windshield wipers" I understand that the car automatically adjusts the wiping speed/interval to the amount of rain that hits the windshield (from complete stop to continuous high speed wiping).

brianman | October 30, 2011

From your video link in the other post...

At the 1:17 and 1:42 marks the wipers are behaving like traditional intermittent wipers. At the 2:30 mark, the wipers are on steady.

I think you're covered, ThomasN.

Deniz | December 6, 2011

Following options would be fantastic, at least i would order all of them:

1) LED head light
2) Adaptive Cruise Control
3) Head-up display (not only speed)
4) Thermal Image Front camera (FLIR), as an option in BMW and AUDI (not mentioned yet here) or

david | November 8, 2012

I agree on some items being a MUST HAVE, and as a Mercedes S Class owners, i have some trepidation about not having the following features.

2. Parking sensors (A MUST HAVE)
3. Adaptive cruise control
8. Tire pressure sensors (REALLY SHOULD HAVE THIS)

BTW, tesla model s does offer a Rear view camera, it is optional of course. Anyway, hoping these items are address soon.

mrspaghetti | November 8, 2012


Rear view camera is standard. See specs/standard features page.

TINO F | November 8, 2012

Rumored that more options will be added to the design studio for the 2013 models. January 1st, 2013 will start building the 2013 Model S.

nickjhowe | November 8, 2012

Rumors from where?

mcptwo | November 9, 2012

With no spare, Tire Pressure Sensors are a necessary feature. HUD, Heads Up Display helps keep your eyes on the road. Even the new Toyota Prius Plug In Hybrid has HUD.
I am having trouble giving up my 535ix BMW with all three Option packages.......except for the $75. per fill up gas option.

reitmanr | November 9, 2012

Tire pressure monitors- thought they were required on all US cars?
Misinformation? Anyone know for sure?

kublai | November 9, 2012

The SPECS page lists TPMS as standard.

17" capacitive touchscreen with media, communication, cabin, and vehicle controls
Bluetooth wireless technology for hands-free calling and streaming music
Three spoke, multi-function steering wheel with tactile controls
Tire pressure monitoring system

TINO F | November 9, 2012

From the Edmunds Site:
TPMS: Mandated by the Federal Government
If you're driving a car, truck or SUV built in the past few years, there's a good chance that it has a TPMS. Starting with all 2008 models, in fact, it's a required feature. In response to the rollover incidents involving the Ford Explorer and Firestone tires, Congress enacted the TREAD Act in 2000. Part of this act got the process moving for having a TPMS in every vehicle.

TINO F | November 9, 2012

AGENCY: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), DOT.

ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking.

SUMMARY: This notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) proposes to establish a new Federal motor vehicle safety standard mandating tire pressure monitoring systems capable of detecting when a tire is significantly under-inflated. A prior version of the standard, adopted by the agency in June 2002 in response to a mandate in the Transportation Recall Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation Act, was vacated by a decision issued by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in August 2003. This NPRM, which is consistent with the Court's decision, proposes to require installation in new light vehicles of a tire pressure monitoring system capable of four-tire, 25-percent under-inflation detection. This proposed rule differs from the final rule also in that it tentatively responds to issues raised in petitions for reconsideration of the June 2002 final rule and proposes to require a TPMS malfunction indicator.

jerry3 | November 10, 2012


TPMS is required but what's wanted is the actual tire pressure to display on the screen the way many cars do, not just a warning when the pressure falls 25% (which is way too late to prevent tire degradation). Even better would be a way to adjust the pressure from the screen (although I suppose many folks would do it very wrong by letting out pressure while driving. A big no-no).

Brian H | November 10, 2012

I've never seen a good "solution" to the issue of optimum pressure parked vs. rolling, etc. As the tire warms, pressure rises. 'Druthers would be 4 scales with an 'optimum' band for the current speed, miles driven to warm, etc., taken into account -- and automatically adjusted for. And a specific warning for a) underinflation b) overinflation and c) leakage.

Brian H | November 10, 2012

(4 scales = 1 for each tire, of course.)

jerry3 | November 10, 2012


As you drive tires eventually reach a thermal equilibrium where the amount of heat gained by flexing equals the amount of cooling. There are really just two choices:

1. Inflate the tires low and they will inflate themselves but the tire temperature will be very hot.

2. Put some air into the tires so that they stay cool.

Note that in both cases the pressure reached will be similar but the temperature of the tires will not be. It's heat that kills tires, not pressure.

Typically you get an 8% to 10% increase in pressure after an hour or two's drive. That might be as high as 15% if the day gets significantly warmer (as it does in desert areas). Any pressure rise higher than that indicates a problem (which is often too low of a pressure to start with).

Bear in mind that every tire load/inflation chart is based on 65F ambient temperature. If the weather is warmer you need to increase the pressure to compensate. Also if the weather is cooler and you inflate inside you need to increase the pressure because the warmer garage air will shrink in cold weather. (yes, there are charts for this)

pilotSteve | November 10, 2012

Jerry3 - if you had only a mediocre pressure gauge (like the one on gas station air hoses) that was hard to read with much exactitude, would you recommend OVER pressure (by 5-10#) to be safe? Perhaps also to drive home, let tires cool down and then release any excess pressure the next morning?

Teoatawki | November 10, 2012

I would not recommend over inflation, in general. For a firmer ride, or with a near max load, you might exceed the auto label's recommended pressure by up to 5 pounds, but both under and over inflation have their handling risks and can cause uneven wear.

jerry3 | November 11, 2012


Adjusting tire pressures for conditions is not overinflation. The tire pressures on the vehicle placard are based on a set of assumptions. Change those assumptions and you need to adjust the pressure for best results.