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Norwegian deliveries

I reserved my P85 #2145 on 27. December. Yesterday I decided to sign up for the Signature wait list. The Signatures are all gone of course but I thought that maybe enough defers to open for a chance. The eternal optimist. Of course, TM UK office confirmed the wait list is long, but that I am on it.
Curious about when they expect deliveries will start in Norway, especially now that production is cranked up. I was told for now they plan 12 months from my reservation date. That means maybe for Christmas. Bummer!

Anyone else with info about Europe arrivals?

Benz | August 20, 2013

@ NilsG

"If roumors on Norwegian forum i correct the SC at Gol is ready to open on friday......"

That's interesting.

Benz | August 20, 2013

Any idea how many Model Ses have been delivered to customers in Norway up to now?

NilsG | August 20, 2013

No Idea on how many delivered to customers, but people reporting cars being made ready for delivery at 5 places (Oslo, Drammen, Stavanger, Bergen and Trondheim). People also reporting the dates they have been given for delivery, think they are delivering them as fast as they can.

Regarding the SC's there are reports of cars being hooked up to them at a few of the sites, and people with computers working on them. Probably testing them before they are ready to be launched? The poles are also marked with the Tesla logo....

Benz | August 20, 2013

@ NilsG

That's good news.

lygren | August 20, 2013

I´m getting my P60 delivered 12AM September 9.!! :) Reading that P85s only do about 300KM I do regret a little that I went for the P60, but then again, 60.000NOK is quite a bit of cash...

The charging-situation is also a bit chaotic, anyone know if there are any 10kW+ chargers located at Alnabru? Perhaps I can steal a charge at the local Tesla-office?? My office is at Alnabru... :)

As for my charging back home, I have not yet been able to pull the trigger. Although I have a new house and asked for 400V, they only installed 230V. That´s a bummer, and I will try to make them upgrade the system to 400V as I´d really would like to charge at 11kW as opposed to only 7kW from a regular 32A 1-phase source. As long as the car charges from empty to full over night I am pretty much set - no need for dual chargers at home. If I need to go on a longer trip I´d have to wait for the superchargers to appear anyhow.

Brian H | August 20, 2013

An 85 will definitely do more than 300km. You'd have to drive like a maniac up mountains and not use regen coming down to get that few. Expect more like 400 km. Given Norwegian speed limits, probably more.

GeirT | August 20, 2013

@ lygren

I was recently in dialog with Sonnico (just released that they are Tesla's instalment partner in Norway) concerning the wiring my garage. In my area I only have access to 230V. I talked to Hafslund and a 400V is nothing I even can dream about. Sonnico/Tesla have two proposals that will provide me with my required >8 hour (hastily translated but guess our international friends shall get the gist of it):

Alternative A:
3 phase, existing 230V IT Nett (?). We install new power cable, fuses, CEE socket and a transformer that takes 230V to 400V and RCCB combination guard (?) to safeguard the installation.
It will be set up with 3x25A fuses and a 10kW transformer that allows a charging time on a P85 of 8 1/2 hours.

Alternative B:
Same as above but with 3x50A fuses and a 20kW transformer. This will give a charging time on the P85 of 5 hours. However the Twin-charger has to be installed on the car to make sense.

The 10kW transformer cost was indicated in excess of NOK 10,000 (USD 1,650) however total installation cost depending on each case. Besides, their cooperation with Tesla is so new that nothing was clear yet. Maybe Tesla will allow enough volume for Sonnico to behave nicely, price wise that is?

lygren | August 20, 2013

Thanks, GeirT. I called Hafslund, the local power company, and although 400V is available across the street, I´m stuck with 230V...

I guess I´ll go for a 32A 1-phase for now, as the 10kW transformer probably steals some energy and also costs quite a lot which is hardly worth the effort for another 2,6kW? I only have one internal charger in my Tesla, which was probably not such a good idea when in fact I could have been able to install a full 20kW line on my 230V system after all.... ;)

Perhaps I can try to install a 40A fuse for the 1-phase 230V and try to make Tesla accept the increased current? It´s probably limited to 32A though... :)

Koz | August 21, 2013

I see concerns about the time it will take to fully charge a fully discharged battery. Before spending significant money and installing less efficient technology, have you analyzed your driving needs to decipher the maximum charge rate you actually need? It is very rare that the full range from home charging is utilized on consecutive days. If that is the case there may be other issues.

Jarleø | August 21, 2013

It looks like they finaly started work on the Tesla service center in Bergen.
I have seen atleast 1 car parked there for charging and 2 wall mounted chargers.

For the locals it looks to be built at "Frydenbø gården, fjøsanger veien."
Next door too Volvo.... ;-).
Cant wait too goo window shopping, while i wait for my TMS85.

oivind.sann | August 21, 2013

Got my delivery date today - September 27th in Oslo !
P#1983 - Vin 167XX - P85 performance - ordered December 2012

Offer on winter tires, service etc. included in th email. Delivery person to call back within a week to agree final steps! :-)

lygren | August 21, 2013

Hi Koz. I totally agree that I would most probably be fine with a 32A current at 7,4kW, charging the car in about 10-12 hours (P60)... In most cases my commute is less than 100KM per day. In some cases, let´s say a Friday, I´d need another 200KM or so to spare after work if we are to visit relatives... I guess I could charge at work anyhow, there´s always solutions! :)

GeirT | August 21, 2013

@ Koz

I have a 250km roundtrip commute to Notodden and no charging point at the destination so will not gamble, thus want a fully charged car to go every morning. No discussion. That means 8 hours is OK. 5 hours is overkill - for me that is.

HaraldH | August 21, 2013

@GeirT

You don't want to fully charge, you want to stop at 90 %. This will conserve battery longevity. An occasional time it's OK to charge 100 %. This information I had from The Tesla guys in Oslo.

Brian H | August 21, 2013

lygren:
You can add the second charger to your car later, for about a 25% markup on the cost.

Brian H | August 21, 2013

HaraldH;
The TM guys may be being too cautious; if you start using the car soon after charging to 100%, the impact is minimal. Storing for some time (months) at full is the basis for the warnings, really.

lygren | August 21, 2013

Thanks for the info Brian H, nice to know that I might still be able to get a dual charger installed... Anyone know how much waste a 20kW transformer might lead to in terms of power-usage? Stepdown converters from 220V to 110V generally looses about 20% I believe, but would it be the same case for a "step up" process from 230V to 400V - or perhaps even worse?

I mean, even with some waste electric power is still far cheaper than gasoline, but still it would be nice to know if anyone has some insights on the effeciency of these types of transformers... :)

Benz | August 21, 2013

Will one of the Supercharger stations really go live on Friday?

Benz | August 22, 2013

Any Model S deliveries planned for next week in Norway?

Kjartandaddy | August 22, 2013

There's a lot of cars getting ready at the Tesla store in Trondheim. I saw at least 4 parked inside yesterday.

Benz | August 22, 2013

That's a good sign of upcoming Model S deliveries in Norway.

HaraldH | August 22, 2013

Be prepared for last minute delays ! My delivery was scheduled today. My appointments othervise were moved. This morning I received a phone call from my Delivery Experience Specialist at Tesla Oslo. He was sorry to tell me that there would not be a delivery today, it's postponed to aug. 26. Huge disappointment.

NilsG | August 22, 2013

@Benz
Latest rumour is that all SC's (6?) will open on friday the 30. of august. But the one at Gol is supposedly up ang functioning with 8 chargers.

If it works this is a fresh picture of it:

http://elbilforum.no/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7959.0;attach...

NilsG | August 22, 2013

Not my picture, lifted it from Norwegian forum

Brian H | August 22, 2013

Nils, all it showed me was "154.*.*.*".

Use <img src="URL" width="600"> to display here, where URL is the direct image link.

GeirT | August 22, 2013

The Elbilforum webmaster has to be paranoid or close to. Only allow certain IP locations to access their website. If you are in Asia for example, access is denied whatever location. The explanation was that there are so may malicious attacks from this part of the world. Guess it applies for your location too Brian H.

Oh well...

Benz | August 22, 2013

@ NilsG

Can you copy that photo, and then paste it here in this thread?

Ø | August 22, 2013

Bergen store to open this month, location Minde Ale.

NilsG | August 23, 2013

Copied the picture to my harddrive and tried that yesterday, but I can't paste pictures directly into the thread. Is there a spcial procedure to do that?

jeroens | August 23, 2013

This one?

psirnes | August 23, 2013

Copied the picture to my harddrive and tried that yesterday, but I can't paste pictures directly into the thread. Is there a spcial procedure to do that?

you hav to copy the pict to a web site (public dropbox or another shared web, and then paste inn the link

NilsG | August 23, 2013

@ jeroens, no, that seems to be one of the others under construction, and only 6 chargers there. The one at Gol have 8 if I'm not mistaken. Ande they look finished.

If noone else post the picture(s) I will try later today.

Benz | August 23, 2013

Paula den Dungen (Director Communications Tesla Motors Europe) appeared as a guest on the BNR Autoshow on the radio in The Netherlands this afternoon. She mentioned that on next Friday (Autust 30th, 2013) they will be present in Norway and they will be there regarding a Supercharger. That means that they will be cutting a ribbon, just like they did with other Supercharger stations. And at the IAA in Frankfurt in September Tesla Motors will be unveiling more about the Superchargers in Europe. So, we might see a map with red and grey dots on it.

HaraldH | August 23, 2013

6 Supercharger Stations opening i Norway aug. 30.
Gol, Aurland, Dombås, Lyngdal, Lillehammer and Cinderella.

kristian.skogstroem | August 23, 2013

Why are there no superchargers in Oslo? How can I travel from Kristiansand to Lillehammer in the winter?

lygren | August 23, 2013

Superchargers are supposed to be placed at "desolate" areas to connect city A with B, not function instead of home-charging. I totally agree on that strategy, mr. Musk is really a genious on many levels... However, I also agree that 6 chargers for the entire country is not sufficient, but I´m sure more will appear later on.

For me at least, located in Asker, the location of these charging-stations is perfect... :)

svennsl | August 24, 2013

Your Model S:Production complete.
#1153

Runar | August 24, 2013

@kristian.skogstroem, charge at brokelandsheia supercharger half way to Oslo, and you should have no problem reaching the next SC at Lillehammer

Runar | August 24, 2013

Wired the payment for my EU p82 to tesla motors yesterday, pickup scheduled for 14:00 28.august. :-) 4+ year waiting soon to be over.

Benz | August 26, 2013

@ Runar

Congrats

Jarleø | August 26, 2013

@runar

Congrats

Benz | August 26, 2013

I wonder who will be invited for the ribbon cutting ceremony during the opening of the Superchargers in Norway?

Benz | August 27, 2013

Anyone who has received an invitation for the ribbon cutting ceremony during the opening of the Superchargers in Norway?

svennsl | August 27, 2013

Ja,fredag 30 aug.kl.12:50

Benz | August 27, 2013

@ sven

And where have you been invited to go to (which of the 6 Supercharger location)?

Are they going to open all 6 Supercharger stations at the same time?

svennsl | August 27, 2013

cinderella

Benz | August 27, 2013

@ Sven

Does the invitation hold more information that you would like to share with us?

svennsl | August 27, 2013

No problem.
dombås 11:00
Aurland 10:20
Lyngdal 10:00
Gol 12:45
Lillihammer :13:30
All first friday

Hedgehogboy | August 27, 2013

They open in this order:
Lyngdal: 10.00 a.m.
Aurland: 10:20 a.m.
Dombås: 11:00 a.m.
Gol: 12:45 p.m.
Cinderella: 12:50 p.m.
Lillehammer: 1:30 p.m.

You can choose the one you want to attend.

Benz | August 27, 2013

Thanks guys.

No info on the number of chargers per Supercharger location?

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