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OK after V9, when will Birds Eye View be available ?

OK after V9, when will Birds Eye View be available ?

the birds eye view is what holding me back to get another Tesla.

SO | November 1, 2018

I would like birds eye view. But to choose any other vehicle solely based on that would be absurd to me.

reed_lewis | November 1, 2018

There is absolutely no way that Tesla right now could offer a "bird's eye" view of the front of the car. Where the front cameras are places results in a blind spot in the front of the car.

Until Tesla installs a camera in the front bumper, it is simply not possible.

jordanrichard | November 1, 2018

Why do you need a "birds eye view". I have had my Model S for over 4 years and I have yet to hit a curb. Set your mirrors to tilt down to see the ground along the side, and we already have a back up camera. Also, we already have a "birds eye view" of sorts. When you put the car in revers, the whole car shows up on the bottom half of the screen and if you come within 32 inches of something, the parking sensors start pinging and you see it on the graphic. Also the back half of the car shows up on the left hand side of the instrument panel. Going forward, the instrument panel show the front of the car.

Just because other cars half this artificial overhead view, doesn't make it better. Actually there is an inherent danger to relying on that "birds eye view" and that is you are literally not seeing outside the box. The "box" being the screen. That birds eye view is not going to show you a kid or whatever heading towards you, until it shows up in the screen. Your cars has windows, use them.

Evaharvey1414 | November 20, 2018

This is a benefit, as for me. I do not drive Tesla, unfortunately, but it looks very good

TeslaTap.com | November 20, 2018

As to when - perhaps never. In addition to the front camera position wrong, so are the side cameras - they are pointed outwards for AP, rather than downwards at the curb. With the current camera set, it just doesn't make sense. Perhaps if they add another 3 cameras, but as more and more driving features are automated (i.e. parking), the need for 360 view disappears.

TeslaTap.com | November 20, 2018

I suspect cars with 360 degree view are often asked when they will get AP, since they have a bunch of cameras. Of course they are pointed down at the sides of the car and would provide no usefulness to AP. (not counting the extra processing, software and hardware required).

Yodrak. | November 20, 2018

I would much rather have the car be able to 'read' and react to traffic lights and road signs.

blue adept | December 4, 2018

Personally, I would much rather the car be able to 'see' surrounding and impending objects and obstacles and pedestrians rather than itself, as Tesla's do now, and fail to 'see' (see what I did there?) the benefit of a vehicle that 'sees' itself.

Sounds...gimmicky...to me given the false perceptionalization inasmuch as 'bird's eye' view is an impossibility without an actual aerial/above vehicle perspective.

vpoz | December 4, 2018

Actually birds eye view, and down alongside Car wheels in direction of travel view available in new model Leaf is v v useful.

acerfacer | December 5, 2018

vpoz is correct. I bought the new Leaf SL as the proverbial canary in the mine, ie to see if electric vehicles were for me before purchasing my MS. The Leaf gives a great bird's eye view. As soon as I put it in reverse, I see my lawnmower and recycling bins to one side, my freezer directly in front, and my garage door frame behind me. However, I've relegated the Leaf to Mrs and practically live in the S !

blue adept | December 5, 2018

@vpoz and acerfacer

Can either of you provide a link to a picture depicting this "bird's eye view" you both speak of...?

acerfacer | December 5, 2018

blue adept ... here you go. Not quite how it looks when live in my car but you'll get the idea. It's pretty effective, especially considering that it's a $37K automobile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U92MIvlRfQg

TabascoGuy | December 6, 2018

Notice the large note on each view instructing the driver to "Check Surroundings of Safety".

TabascoGuy | December 6, 2018

...for Safety

David N | December 6, 2018

Maybe OP would like a Drone to deploy from his Tesla to hover and help him.

blue adept | December 26, 2018

@acerfacer

Thanks!

I see what you mean now, though I'd like to point out that Tesla already has front and rear-view cameras and is pretty much already on working on integrating a similar functionality:

https://electrek.co/2018/09/26/tesla-dashcam-feature-autopilot-camera-ve...

But if you're impatient, or if it's just not what you're looking for, I'm aware of some Chinese company that's producing an installation system that could provide a certain degree of the same functionality. You can read about it here:

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-front-camera-touchscreen-kit/

As for myself, I've got pretty good visibility all around the car(s) as it is and don't need to rely on a secondary system to do for me what I can do well enough for myself.

KDLTesla | January 2, 2019

We had the birdseye view on our Audi and found it much more useful than we anticipated. We miss it on the Tesla and we're a bit perplexed how something that is a standard feature on a Nissan Rogue, Nissan Versa, Chevy Equinox and other cars in the $17K to $27K price range is not a standard feature on the Model S. While it didn't stop us from buying the Tesla, it was definitely disappointing to lose that feature. It's very helpful to parking; it enables you to make sure you are "in" the legal part of the curb (and not in the red zone) without having to get out and check, which is especially nice when its raining; it helps you with centering the vehicle (if needed); some people find that view more helpful than the other tools the Tesla offers; it helps assess the situation around the vehicle; the list goes on. Yes, conveniences, not essentials. But we were surprised how much we missed it when we traded in the Audi. And sort of astounded that it's standard on a Versa but apparently not an option on the Tesla. Based on what people are writing here, it seems like it might never be available for those of us who already own a Tesla unless Tesla is going to offer some sort of hardware addition for previous models or work out the existing cameras to provide the 360 and birdseye. Liked the link from @acerfacer but still not clear to me whether that work will in fact get us the birdseye view or when. Fingers-crossed. Hope this was useful somehow and eager to get any news folks have. We'd be pleased to have the birdseye view (without the drone).

KDLTesla | January 2, 2019

We had the birdseye view on our Audi and found it much more useful than we anticipated. We miss it on the Tesla and we're a bit perplexed how something that is a standard feature on a Nissan Rogue, Nissan Versa, Chevy Equinox and other cars in the $17K to $27K price range is not a standard feature on the Model S. While it didn't stop us from buying the Tesla, it was definitely disappointing to lose that feature. It's very helpful to parking; it enables you to make sure you are "in" the legal part of the curb (and not in the red zone) without having to get out and check, which is especially nice when its raining; it helps you with centering the vehicle (if needed); some people find that view more helpful than the other tools the Tesla offers; it helps assess the situation around the vehicle; the list goes on. Yes, conveniences, not essentials. But we were surprised how much we missed it when we traded in the Audi. And sort of astounded that it's standard on a Versa but apparently not an option on the Tesla. Based on what people are writing here, it seems like it might never be available for those of us who already own a Tesla unless Tesla is going to offer some sort of hardware addition for previous models or work out the existing cameras to provide the 360 and birdseye. Liked the link from @acerfacer but still not clear to me whether that work will in fact get us the birdseye view or when. Fingers-crossed. Hope this was useful somehow and eager to get any news folks have. We'd be pleased to have the birdseye view (without the drone).

TeslaTap.com | January 2, 2019

@KDLTesla - Not to say a birds eye view isn't useful, but it appears just about every high-end car doesn't have birds eye view. Not even a $3M Bugatti. I'm not aware of a single Ferrari, Lamborghini or other performance or high-end car that has the feature. Not sure of the reasons, but perhaps those that buy the cars you sited are not very adept at parking?

Anyway, it's not going to appear as a software change as the cameras are optimized for Autopilot and would not provide a useful view. Then again all the cars you sited don't have Autopilot or autopark. Tesla could add another batch of cameras for the birds eye feature and charge more, but with autopark, the need is not all that high.

KDLTesla | January 2, 2019

@TeslaTap.com . . . LOL. Alas, a lack of parking skills seems to cut across price points. :-)

Thanks for the info re the cameras and the implications for any sort of software change.

As for higher price point cars, it's standard on the following as well: Acura MDX, BMW 7 Series, Genesis G90, Infiniti QX30, Land Rover, Audi A8, Audi Q7, Audi Etron SUV, Jaguar F-Pace, Jaguar I-Pace, and others . . . So I sense it's becoming more and more the norm across price points. But time will tell. Of course, at $3M, the Bugatti owner can probably hire a crew to be in attendance for the parking. :-)

As for Autopark, we've had the car for a little more than 3 months and Autopark is batting about .250. We keep trying, but typically it doesn't park correctly in one way or another and we need to "fix it" or do it over. On three parallel parking occasions it simply ran into the curb at an angle; on a couple we've ended up almost two feet from the curb. I haven't given up on it yet, but don't find it all that helpful. Fortunately, parallel parking doesn't give me fits, so not using the autopark is no big deal. But will have the service center check/run diagnostics on the function next time we take the car in.

Anyway, not a big deal. And having just done a 900 mile road trip along winding, fun to drive roads without using a drop of gas . . . I'm not losing sleep over the lack of a birdseye view. I was however losing sleep over how much gas the Q7 was consuming. Now if I can just find a way to change how birds view our car . . . because right now the birds' eyes seem to see bullseyes all over the car.

acerfacer | January 2, 2019

@KDLTesla & @TeslaTap.com ... FYI, the Leaf SL in the video clip also has "ProPilot" aka Nissan's version of Autopilot. While not as refined as Tesla, it's a hands-free experience as well.

As for Autopark, my new MS is sadly deficient. It's genius at forever announcing where NOT to park. I got the witches' hat (ie. "no parking" cone) this morning at a stoplight with no other vehicles present. I was in the center lane of three heading my direction.

I traverse parking lots, keeping speed under 15 mph, to see if I can coax it to activate; can't remember the last time it worked. I'd say at least two updates ago, if not more. Oh well, the farts perform flawlessly. High hopes that the next update will contain "Quiltlifter"!

blue adept | January 3, 2019

@KDLTesla

Perhaps it's just that Tesla chose to spend the money elsewhere/on some other functionality than some kitschy bauble...?