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THE RISK OF SNAKE OIL FOR COVID 19

THE RISK OF SNAKE OIL FOR COVID 19

Many including our president Donald Trump are pushing snake oil. This is potentially harmful advice. Ignorant individuals pushing untested cures. Chloroquine may have benefit but it is untested and should only be recommended In individual patients by medical professionals who know what they are doing
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/ind...

blkice | March 23, 2020

Vice President said today
If you test positive with no symptoms ware a mask and go to work
Verbal snake oil

SCCRENDO | March 23, 2020

He can be called an idiot without us feeling shame

Tesla2018 | March 23, 2020

Sccrendo- What do you think Trump is doing, sitting around in the situation room with a chemistry set mixing compounds? I'm sure he's getting advice from experts in their fields. You may be an expert in one area of medicine but are not an expert in all fields. It's like asking a gynecologist to do dental work since they both work on cavities.

M-A-B-MCMLXXX | March 23, 2020

^ wow. Did you have that one locked and loaded or was it an original?

blkice | March 23, 2020

The Cure must not effect his re-election
Is it not obvious?

Shesmyne2 | March 23, 2020

Covidiot

Still Grinning ;-)

sabbia | March 24, 2020

Pence: "If you test positive, wear a mask and go to work." Does that include line jumpers like Rand Paul?

jimglas | March 24, 2020

holy shit, Did Pence really say that?
That is criminal

FISHEV | March 24, 2020

Whom the gods wish to destroy....certainly applies to US today.

1. A wacky cryptocurrency scammer goes on Fox News and promotes a scam.
2. Trump watches Fox News, addresses nation to listen to cryptocurrency scammer, get this drug.
3. Dr. Fauci pushes Trump aside says No. It’s a scam.
4. Everybody runs out and cleans out the drug supply, killing off those who needed it for its actual purpose.

US will get a recession and pandemic, both of which could have been prevented.

rxlawdude | March 24, 2020

Trump is listening to the Fox "News" commentators, egging him on to end or reduce restrictions so the country can get back to work.

And see the massive second wave of infection this stupidity would bring.

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

Yes i am sure that Fox news is influencing the president.

jimglas | March 24, 2020

No matter what trump decides, the governors have taken the lead in trying to fight this and are unlikely to do what that idiot says

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

@jimglas. Agreed

DTsea | March 24, 2020

trump doesnt listen to anyone who doesnt tell him what he wants to hear.

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

Good thread. Now everyone can hate trump on another thread

jimglas | March 24, 2020

complaining about trumps lack of action, lies and misinformation is not "hating trump"

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

its just the same hating trump as the last 5 years. every time anything happens its 3 days worth of hate.

jimglas | March 24, 2020

criticism is not "hate"

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

oh please. nothing has changed in 5 years

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

@andy. Things have not changed in 5 years because he continues to the same thing that has resulted in criticism over the past 5 years. I could not be accused of being fond of the guy. But I do not hate him. Trump supporters need to understand that disagreeing with someone is very different from hate. The rest of us criticize the leaders we elected when deserved.

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

its been 5 years of complaining. when does it get old

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

As soon as he starts acting presidential and makes smart decisions or when he leaves office. I did temporarily praise him in this pandemic when he started to show some leadership and listen to the experts. But that didn’t last wrong. Would you think that the criticism in this particular thread is off base

andy.connor.e | March 24, 2020

too much time wasted on criticizing the president.

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

Too much time wasted by the president criticizing others

jimglas | March 24, 2020

not enough time spent criticising him
I presume the election will solve hat
The one thing I can say is that his mishandling of this crisis has really demonstrated his unsuitability for office

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

A pretty good article about meds and Covid 19
https://apple.news/ASEX80boBSROz6UiFDWKeaA

Ross1 | March 24, 2020

So someone just died using Trumps medecine recommendation

blkice | March 24, 2020

Texas Governor said yesterday
Old people will have to sacrifice and some will die to get the economy running again
This is what fox is pushing

rxlawdude | March 24, 2020

@blkice
To paraphrase: "Old people" are expendable.

Ross1 | March 24, 2020

Save the taxpayers

rxlawdude | March 24, 2020

Old people pay taxes, too.

blkice | March 24, 2020

If you were taking care of your elderly Mother and can’t go see your daughter and Grandkids because you don’t know where they have been and they can’t come over because of their great grandma has blood cancer, criticism isn’t enough but it’s all I have

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

It’s interesting how things change. One of the criticisms of Obamacare was a concern about “death panels” that Republicans claimed would happen under Obamacare. Yes this does occur all the time. When resources are limited physicians have to chose where to turn the resources. But hopefully this is done using wise medical ethical reasoning. What they are calling for is rationing resources to limit the deficit. That’s pretty rich for Trump and the Republicans that pushed through a billionaire tax cut that added more than a trillion to the deficit. A fairer approach would be for people with assets over $50 million to help fund the Coronavirus bailout.

Ross1 | March 24, 2020

....because you have 49 million.

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

@ross. This is a ballpark number. If you wish to understand this better you could google the 2016 tax cut where most of the tax breaks went to the super rich resulting in an unnecessary deficit of more than $1 trillion. This money should be brought back into the system. It could be an arbitrary cutoff vs an escalating cutoff vs a pure reversal of the tax cuts

jimglas | March 24, 2020

bring back the raygun tax rates
problem solved

MitchP85D | March 24, 2020

I am quite sure that all of you bashing Trump were the first ones who called Trump a racist for implementing the China travel ban on 31 January.

FISHEV | March 24, 2020

"PHOENIX, Arizona — A man is dead and his wife is in critical condition after they reportedly swallowed chloroquine phosphate, thinking it would help prevent them from catching the COVID-19 coronavirus."

Trump up on manslaughter chargers. Practicing medicine without a brain.

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/man-dies-wife-critical-af...

blkice | March 24, 2020

I’m quite sure that all of you bootlicker sucking up to trump were the first ones who said it’s OK to cheat on his pregnant wife.

SCCRENDO | March 24, 2020

@Mitch. You guys have to get it out of heads that we just bash Trump indiscriminately. I praise him for the things he did correctly. He botched the whole thing from the beginning. His China ban was but one small step. But it likely did nothing because it got here anyway. In retrospect he either needed to close the country to everyone or not bother. Was it racist? With him it’s possible. But it was more a reflex action than necessarily based on sound medical advice. His whole focus has been on the economy. And when the stock market tanked he came on board for a while. Now he is talking about letting up by Easter. This is a pure emotional judgement and not supported by the public health experts. One Texas lawmaker felt that to spare the economy we could sacrifice a few old people. The economy is going to suffer so we better address this correctly. If he reduces social distancing too soon and old people die the economy will still tank

jimglas | March 24, 2020

he is racist for calling it the "chinese virus"

FISHEV | March 24, 2020

"he is racist for calling it the "chinese virus""

He was watching Fox News which is where Trump gets all his info. Great shot of the first speech where he decides he's going full on Yellow Peril and you can where cross out Covid19 and wrote in "Chinese Flu" right after Fox news went with it.

MitchP85D | March 24, 2020

Destroying the economy of a nation impoverishes a nation. Poverty kills. We now have a tug of war between the number of deaths caused by the virus vs. the number of deaths caused by making Americans poor. Of course the health care officials want to shut down the country for a year or two. It makes their jobs easier. But what would be that cost? Impoverishing millions of Americans will most certainly result in a high number of deaths.

I side with opening America back up for business soon with extreme hygiene measures. We can adapt.

And here is another thing to consider. That was 70 year old Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick who made the suggestion that opening America back up for business, putting old folks at risk, is better by far than shutting down America, impoverishing the youth and degrading their lives. Most of us who are in our 60s have 40+ years of saving and investing behind us. If not, we have Social Security and Medicare. And most of us who are retired have a self-quarantined life anyway. Those of us who are most at risk don't go out and about as much as the youth. As a 63 year old, I am not willing to sacrifice the well-being of my 32 year old son and his wife for the benefit of giving me a better chance at living longer. Being retired, I'll do a lot of what I do anyway - stay at home.

As to the Arizona story, I just found out from Tucker Carlson that chloroquine phosphate is fish tank cleaner! This is a different chemical from hydroxychloroquine. Yet, the mainstream news media and goofy, dumbass liberals like the ones in this thread are trying to hang trump with that!

blkice | March 24, 2020

Proud to be a Goofy , dumbass , liberal at time like this
Thank you

blkice | March 24, 2020

Do you think the dead guy would have taken
the chloroquine if trump hadn’t said it was showing great promise
Vote here

MitchP85D | March 24, 2020

Perhaps, you goofy, dumbass liberals should pay attention to Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/new-york-starts-new-experime...

But it's still Trump's fault that the Arizona guy swallowed fish tank cleaner, right? You still trying to push that false narrative?

Ross1 | March 24, 2020

His wife told him to so he did.
Adam and Eve revisited.

FISHEV | March 24, 2020

Damning indictment of Trump/GOP handling of Covid-19.

"But the US response has been hobbled by the administration’s rejection of standard WHO testing kits, instead opting to develop its own, which turned out to be faulty. Exactly a month after Donald Trump tweeted that the US had the coronavirus outbreak “very much under control”, the World Health Organization delivered a stark and jarring reality check: America faces being the centre of a pandemic that has paralysed much of the world."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-america-dona...

I wonder if GOP would impeach Trump to avoid having him as the poster child for GOP ideology and the consequences.

FISHEV | March 24, 2020

"But it's still Trump's fault that the Arizona guy swallowed fish tank cleaner, right? "

Eyup because Trump said it was approved by FDA (it wasn't) among other lies. Even Dr. Fauci immediately
stepped up to say Trump was completely wrong, the FoxNewers who were promoting it, Carlson and two cryptocurrency scammers (that's who Trump got his "good information" from) were claiming it was proven.

Now they are dead for listening to Fox News and Trump. A Darwin Award perhaps.

MitchP85D | March 25, 2020

I noticed how you goofy dumbass liberals completely ignored Gov. Andrew Cuomo being cleared by the FDA to start experimental drug therapies for COVID-19. Guess what those drugs are?

Hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic Zithromax

What's the matter liberals? You don't like the fact that Gov Cuomo is using the drugs that Trump was touting? Apparently that completely destroys your silly little narrative that Trump is killing people with hydroxychloroquine.

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