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Should Elon do Tesla presentations?

Should Elon do Tesla presentations?

I love the kid... obviously he's genius and have accomplished more than just about anyone in modern day history... but his presentations and unveiling of Model X and tonight's SuperCharger really sucks!!

Why not have George Blankenship rehearse these presentations?

Vic M | September 24, 2012

Having spoken to George, I agree he would do better as well. That said, for giving me perfectly located free charging on trips from SF to SLO and Tahoe, Elon can do what he wants!

rmitchum | September 24, 2012

I’d surely sooner buy a car from Elon than any rehearsed, polyester-suited slickster. When I want a show, I’ll hold my nose and head on down to the local ICE lot.

mrspaghetti | September 24, 2012

I agree his public speaking is not on par with most politicians, but I find almost all of them to be douchebags. I find I like getting the unvarnished talk from a genius who really believes in what he's doing than a salesman.

asblik | September 24, 2012

Only problem is the 40kWh Model S owners and many of the 60kWh Model S driver's won't be able to actually use the SuperChargers...

"high-speed charging system is only compatible on Models S version with an 85-kWh (where the necessary Supercharger bits are standard) or 60-kWh (optional) battery packs."

That's a pity because 40kWh folks are the ones that really need the SuperCharger to get from one city to next.

Just my 2 cents

Tiebreaker | September 24, 2012

He is enthusiastic, believes in what he says, and the few stumbles just reinforce his persuasion. Much better than having a rehearsed MC.

nickjhowe | September 24, 2012

I originally had the same thoughts about Elon - he's no Steve Jobs on the presenting front - but I've changed my mind. There's a certain charm about his presenting style - or rather his "non-presenting" style that I'm coming to appreciate. We've been trained over the years to expect style over substance. If it doesn't look and sound great then it can't be great. Can it?

Elon is completely undoing that. His approach is genuinely refreshing. I'm a convert. Would I prefer a few less ums and ahs? Absolutely. But I'll take Elon over an "empty suit" any day.

Tiebreaker | September 24, 2012

@h8tow8 --- Umm, the Options and Pricing page now lists supercharging as standard for the 60kWh version, I am not sure since when.

mrspaghetti | September 24, 2012

"h8tow8 | SEPTEMBER 24, 2012 NEW
Only problem is the 40kWh Model S owners and many of the 60kWh Model S driver's won't be able to actually use the SuperChargers...

"high-speed charging system is only compatible on Models S version with an 85-kWh (where the necessary Supercharger bits are standard) or 60-kWh (optional) battery packs."

That's a pity because 40kWh folks are the ones that really need the SuperCharger to get from one city to next.

Just my 2 cents"

The 40 kwh battery option is for people who only want to tool around town, not go between cities.

Quigibo | September 24, 2012

I think that Tony---I mean Elon is perfect for all Stark---I mean Tesla Industries Events :-)

"Totally Genuine----Totally Tesla"

kalikgod | September 24, 2012

I have to agree that watching him speak at events and interviews can be surprising that he isn't a more polished public speaker, but I think I prefer him just speaking as himself. He seems more approachable and actually more informed that typical executive BS speak.

But take that with a massive grain of salt, I am an admitted Elon fanboy.

Mark K | September 24, 2012

Watched Elon live at tonight's event.

His informal, humble authenticity trumps gloss decisively. It's exactly whats needed right now, and no proxy could possibly do what's needed better than him.

Mark2131@CA-US | September 24, 2012

I agree, mark. I was there tonight as well. Perhaps not the most polished presentation, but it's the content of the message that matters, not the style of the presentation. How many CEO's offer to hang around and talk to their customers?

My take away from this: You can drive coast to coast for FREE! And SF to LA is a no brainer! I think I'll take delivery at the factory and head on back to LA without any range anxiety.

These superchargers really are the missing piece of the puzzle.

StephRob | September 24, 2012

Who got invited to tonight's event? Just LA folks? Sig reservations?

petero | September 24, 2012

StephRob. I am a "P" reservation holder, living in Southern CA, and I received an e-mail invite.

Tâm | September 24, 2012

Elon did a great presentation tonight as well as previous ones.

Some may not like his unique style but many, including myself are admiring and so appreciative of the genuine Elon live in person.

If you want quick crowd, don’t you want to hire Sarah Palin? No thanks.

We had a great crowd tonight. Please, please don’t change Elon.

GHmagic6 | September 24, 2012

Like others have said - I'd rather watch someone who's passionate about what they do (Elon) than someone who's just reciting lines (someone else). I mean...isn't passion more exciting to watch than a line reading? I think so!

Volker.Berlin | September 25, 2012

There is another thread in the "General" forum section, where it belongs IMO:

"Elon Musk as a Speaker....what do you think?"
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/elon-musk-speakerwhat-do-you-think

Brian H | September 25, 2012

@Vic M;
GB in person is fine. On stage he makes me twitch. Clichés in a loud voice don't do it for me.

gagliardilou | September 25, 2012

Elon is a way better choice.

asblik | September 25, 2012

"The 40 kwh battery option is for people who only want to tool around town, not go between cities."

Please don't tell 40kWh folks this...

mrspaghetti | September 25, 2012

h8tow8 | SEPTEMBER 25, 2012 NEW
"The 40 kwh battery option is for people who only want to tool around town, not go between cities."

Please don't tell 40kWh folks this...

Someone had better tell them if they hadn't figured it out from reading all the info on the Tesla site about the car, which should make it obvious.

mrspaghetti | September 25, 2012

Hm, I guess the quotes put an end to the italics mode...

stephen.kamichik | September 25, 2012

TM has already stated that you should choose the battery pack that satisfies your current and future needs.

Volker.Berlin | September 25, 2012

Someone had better tell them if they hadn't figured it out from reading all the info on the Tesla site about the car, which should make it obvious.

+1

Hm, I guess the quotes put an end to the italics mode...

It's not the quotes, it's the line break.

asblik | September 25, 2012

All I'm saying is when you drop almost $60K on new car, it's not what you want to hear... "tool around town" and stretching to make those payments like many folks will hurt.

Brian H | September 25, 2012

" Hm, I guess the quotes put an end to the italics mode...

It's not the quotes, it's the line break."

More precisely, it's the double line break, or paragraph break. You can fudge this by putting an inconspicuous period in the blank lines, which keeps the tag active till you leave a real blank line.

Brian H | September 25, 2012

Examine the comparisons on teslarumors.com. Total Cost of Ownership over 5, not to mention 10, years matches that of much cheaper cars. And pure city driving will improve that comparison even more.

If you're not part of the large majority that never or rarely exceeds commute distances, do the math on a 60 kWh or see if occasional rentals or careful route planning will serve.

jerry3 | September 25, 2012

Brian --If you're not part of the large majority that never or rarely exceeds commute distances

I keep seeing statements like this and I wonder about who are included in the "large majority". For example, if you include people who would never ever be able to afford a $30K car and basically drive around in $1500 cars, the people who have driver's licenses but never drive, or those who have a car but seldom take it out, then it's rather a meaningless statistic.

All the people I've ever known or worked with take fairly long trips at least once a year and often go for weekend journeys where they drive a reasonably long distance.

Speaking only for myself, there's no way I would ever rent a car for a trip. I've rented way too many cars in the past for business and half of them are totally filthy and the rest are in questionable mechanical condition.

Careful route planning works great.

olanmills | September 25, 2012

Yes he should continue to do it, but I'm sure not everyone has the same perception.

And of course, I'm not expert. Everything could all be a carefully planned act for all I know.

But anyways, Elon's presentations (and interviews) make him seem genuine and enthusiastic. To me it makes him appear trustworthy and dedicated to success. However, I must admit, that to me, his manner of presentation and discussion does not indicate anything (good or bad) regarding competence (but his track record certainly does!).

I can see how some people (business-y people) would find Elon's behavior during presentations and interviews as making him appear unprofessional, unprepared, or potentially incompetent.

Based on what we saw at the delivery launch in June, I don't think George should do the presentations. It seemed scripted and artificial. Perhaps to some people, this is comforting and projects organization and competence. However, for me, this style doesn't instill any confidence, and perhaps even makes me suspicious. Even terrible companies can have good marketing. Substance is more important.

Also, regarding the presentation screw ups, I don't really care. A real presentation screw up is if the car blue-screened or the charger exploded. I don't care if Tesla is not that good at dropping a curtain or whatever, and I don't think it means much of anything in terms of their engineering and business capability. They can figure out how to run all of that sideshow stuff better when they are a more mature company. If they are really successful, some day in the future, they'll have all of that stuff that big comapanies have, like a whole person whose only job is to plan the company picnic and what not. Right now, I only car about the business model and the product quality. If other investors and analysts don't know what to focus on, that's to their own detriment.

Captain_Zap | September 25, 2012

I agree completely Olan.

Elon is the one that draws an audience. He is the attraction and the fascination. Everyone is fixated on Elon and they want to witness him revealing his next big vision and then spontaneously drop hints about the next idea. People hang on his every word because it could end up being an interesting trip, or they just might get lucky and witness history in the making.

Brian H | September 25, 2012

Also, He Da Man. If he decides to do X, the chances are very high Tesla (&/or SpaceX &/or Solar City) will shortly be working on X. GB, not so much.

Timo | September 25, 2012

The 40 kwh battery option is for people who only want to tool around town, not go between cities.

Anything less than 200 mile range is for that. That's pretty common sense. Even if you could recharge every 100 miles, would you want to? Even if it takes 10 minutes to do that (+another 5 minutes to pay etc.)?

Lets say you take 300 mile round trip to a meeting in middle of nowhere, 150 miles each way. You don't want to do full recharge (range mode) to prevent damage to battery and you want to keep a healthy safety margin, so lets make 80% of 160 mile of 40kWh battery range. That's recharging every 128 miles. Can't make full stretch 150 mile without charging, so you start to look at recharging point at somewhere around 100 mile mark. That's then at last two recharges for this short trip + one full at home. Four if you can charge at your destination (and then your home charging would be less).

Not my kind of driving. Also supercharger every 100 miles will not happen in near future, so charging would be a slow one even if there were supercharger capability with 40kWh Model S.

40kWh Model S is Nissan Leaf in Jaguar clothes for practicality in long range driving. You just plain need bigger battery to make long range driving practical.

vouteb | September 26, 2012

Elon any day

its his company, he has the credibility.
GB is far too slick/loud (for non US viewers at least)

Timo | September 26, 2012

Elon gets my vote too. There is something ...how to put it... "right", in his presentations. They do not feel like TV commercials. Some stutter and some "politically incorrect" straight words make him sound sincere and not some corporate puppet or snake oil salesman.

Brian H | September 26, 2012

The "supercharging damage to battery" meme seems to continue haunting postumously. http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/no-limits-supercharge-cycles
Overcharging is a problem. Supercharging is not.

Vawlkus | September 26, 2012

I'm kinda split on Elons shows. On the one hand, it's more authentic hearing/seeing him stumble his way through presentations. It implies humility "I know I'm not the best at everything, but I will do my best and improve each time I try".
On the other hand sometimes the audience doesn't know how to react at times. There have been a couple of times where Elon made a mild joke or pun, but the majority of the audience missed it and there was a silent gap where Elon was waiting for a response. Seeing what Elon does in these presentations, I'm left wondering if he's trying to follow a script/prompter or if he makes it up off the cuff as he goes along. My suggestion would be a few rehearsals if Elon can spare the time (unlikely given his workload ;D )

jerry3 | September 26, 2012

olanmills -- I don't care if Tesla is not that good at dropping a curtain or whatever, and I don't think it means much of anything in terms of their engineering and business capability.

Right. It's similar to when I see a really slick website for a non-tech company--for instance, a landscaping service. It make me wonder what their expertise actually is.