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SR+ Inactive Speakers

I have seen a few posts about the speakers on the A pillars and the top speakers on the front doors not working. I checked my SR+ and confirmed that there is no sound coming through mine. I put my ears right up against them and didn't head anything.

I have immersive sound turned on and frankly I can't tell a difference when it is on or off. I'm not sure if there's a certain audio file type that's required for it to work, but I only stream music through my phone. Either way, turning on immersive sound doesn't activate the speakers mentioned above.

While the feature list on partial premium interior only states "upgraded audio - immersive sound," it doesn't state the exact number of speakers that will be used. I wish there is an official statement on this. If the speakers are disabled via software, then they should be able to enable them with an update.

I don't know why they would include the speakers if they aren't going to turn them on. Maybe Tesla plans on upselling SR+ with a "upgraded audio+" later. Or maybe this is just an issue I'm facing.

Is anyone else experiencing the same thing? I would hate for this to be looked over by Tesla employees (although I sure they are aware)

donharvey2323 | April 4, 2019
theoryfa | April 4, 2019

Thanks for your post don, I've seen that video before. The creator of the video even acknowledge that the A pilllar speakers aren't active. However I don't remember seeing anything about the top door speakers being inactive as well.

All I see are speculations that the speakers will become active through a firmware update but I haven't seen it actually confirmed by an employee. I guess all the programmers are busy trying to get auto pilot out by the end of this year.

Miloni2020 | April 4, 2019

I don’t really care for the audio in the SR+. I was thinking it would be good in that it would be equivalent to my Acura. Wasn’t expecting state of the art sound but the audio on SR+ is subpar. I paid $50k for my car and expected a decent sound system. . I feel kinda jilted in that there was no explanation of what speakers came with the car prior to ordering. The immersive sound turned on or off sounds the same. It has NO BASS. Does anyone know if an aftermarket subwoofer can be installed. I know for a fact the subwoofer and amp is missing. Help!

kalalp | April 13, 2019

I can confirm that the audio in my SR+ is the worst audio of any vehicle I have been in for the last 20 years.

Sandman89 | April 13, 2019

The sound system on the long range blows every other cars stock system out of the park. Guess you get what you pay for. I do believe that Tesla should give the option to people to pay extra if they want upgraded audio on the standard range. Unfortunately that's not the case and it's a sacrifice you have to make. Maybe they will turn on the inactive speakers in the future which would definitely help.

kalalp | April 13, 2019

I don't need nor expect "blow away audio". I do expect acceptable on a $40k auto.

This is not acceptable, in my opinion.

jayson.fields1 | April 13, 2019

Hoping that with them now making the SR a SR+ with disabled features of the SR+, that they will enable those speakers for us with SR+ to make more of a difference between SR & SR+. Either way I love my car.

rrisdal | April 13, 2019

I agree the audio system quality in my SR+ is really bad. Love the car otherwise but I’m shocked at how bad music sounds on this system.

Carl Thompson | April 13, 2019

@qasim715:
"The sound system on the long range blows every other cars stock system out of the park."

It appears there's some variability. I've been in some LR Model 3s where the sound was so good it was just amazing.

But in mine it's just pretty good but not as good as in other cars. I've taken it the service center a couple of times but they say there's nothing wrong with it.

TeslaTap.com | April 13, 2019

Can't say I've heard the sounds on a SR/SR+, but there used to be similar complaints on the S with standard sound vs the optional UHFS (now included with new cars). It seems many of the complaints were due to the source material. Worst is using bluetooth, as bluetooth further compresses the music to be sent wireless. Once using a quality source, often these same people were totally impressed with the quality. Even FM radio can be better than most compressed sources although there can be quite a bit of variability. Too bad the SR/SR+ doesn't support USB music, where you can provide the best quality non-lossy audio, such as FLAC.

Another related issues is how quiet the car is. When comparing it with ICE cars with noisy engines and vibrations, what sounds good in an ICE car is often quite crummy - often made up with higher distortion creating volume. As you get used to poor quality sound, jumping to an EV, and you start to hear things in your music you never heard before (good and bad).

I'd still love to have a confirmation as to what speakers are actually in the SR and SR+. Just because you see a grill, doesn't mean Tesla put a speaker behind it. Then again, Tesla has been known to include more than you paid for (in hardware) to make production easier. As production volumes increase, they refine the assembly and drop out items that are not specified for that car.

Lastly, check your equalizer. The more it's off "zero" the more distortion you're adding (true of any car with an equalizer). Best to keep them in the 2.5 to -2.5 range at least until you get used to non-distorted sound.

Here's my total article on audio in the Model 3: https://teslatap.com/articles/audio-systems-for-the-model-3/

kalalp | April 13, 2019

TeslaTap:

My SR+ has all the speakers on your diagram re: your referenced article except for the trunk subwoofer which is not there nor is there any wiring harness for it. However, the rear package shelf,door mirror and upper A speakers are not functioning but they are installed. Not sure if there is harness installed to those. I shined a flashlight through the grills to confirm the speakers were there. The front door speakers are low hz only as noted. No midrange or treble.

theoryfa | April 15, 2019

Thanks TeslaTap. That was a very informative article that I wish I have seen before. It's unfortunate that the only difference between SR and SR+ is one tweeter + immersive sound (which doesn't turn on A pillar speakers). Now that there have been reports of SR deliveries which are software limited SR+, I wonder how the sound systems compare to one another. When I read "Upgraded Audio" I expect to hear a noticable difference.

I did recently took my SR+ into a service center to get some minor repairs. I forgot to mention the speakers at first, but when I went to pick up my car, I asked them about it. Their response was the speakers are software locked and the speakers I mentioned in the first post are going to be inactive. So TeslaTap has the correct layout of working speakers.

lindauer | April 15, 2019

I added an after market powered sub to my SR+ and it made all the difference in the world. I believe that column speakers need an amp to operate but I could be wrong about that.

gmkellogg | April 15, 2019

Working in healthcare I can't count the number of times I've heard, "This is unacceptable!".

You know what though? They eventually accepted it.

adoh2010 | April 15, 2019

I have no problem with the quality or strength of the system on the SR+. I don't like that the sound bar on the dash is already making a cracking noise, something that happens with most dash mounted speakers after years of sitting under the sun. The system matches the pioneer of the base lexus sound "which is better than the $3000+ mark Levinson after a few years when the speakers and amps start failing" and if the long term durability is the same then they've made the best system in the business.

model3cars | April 15, 2019

Lindauer

-Could you show how you were able to add in aftermarket sub to SR+ ??
I read up about it, but since SR+ doesn't have the sub/amp at the rear, I didn't know where to get the line-in signal for aftermarket sub, and where to power them... Thanks

rrisdal | April 16, 2019

I'm no audiophile, but I find the sound in my SR+ to be really, really terrible. Very shrill, no Mids or Bass regardless of source or EQ adjustments. I hope that either Tesla will offer a software upgrade to enable more of the existing speakers, or someone will offer a 3rd party solution. Love the car, but the audio system is the worst in any car I've owned in the last 25 years.

metalhawk | April 17, 2019

@Teslatap - thanks for that article, that's great. I'm not sure that the locations are correct (Or else there some variability?). I definitely get sound from the rear door speakers of my SR+ and NOT from the rear deck. But there are definitely speakers in the rear deck (and I'm not getting sound from them). It certainly appears that the SR+ often has all but the subwoocer (physically) but that only 7 or so of them actually active.

lindauer | April 17, 2019

@model3cars Sure, I purchased a powered sub and took it over to a Auto Sound installer in my area that is familiar with model 3’s. I told him I wanted it mounted in the truck but to leave extra cabling so I can drop into the well if I need to for cargo loading. He tied the power off of the power terminals under the back seat. He tapped into left and right (full range) audio from the block in the front column. He added a switching transformer box under the right rear door plate that disconnects power to the sub if there is no audio signal. He charged me about 250 I think. All I had to do is rebalance the graphic and the sub level and cross over to get the sound I was looking for. By adding the sub I am able to reduce the bass drive on the other speakers that was causing the system to distort.

bddaughe | April 17, 2019

@Carl Thompson Does anything in your car work as it should?

lordmiller | April 17, 2019

bddaughe LOL! Awesome!

model3cars | April 17, 2019

@ lindauer

Thanks for the info. I'm a DIY guy so just looking for pic/diagram of the actual location of these full audio wies from the front column. Do you happen to have pictures? would be helpful to share here or other M3 forum.

Carl Thompson | April 17, 2019

@bddaughe:
"Carl Thompson Does anything in your car work as it should?"

LOL! I've definitely had my share of issues and then some but they've all been relatively minor like this. All the stuff that really matters works well with only one or two exceptions (computer, rear camera) that were fixed quickly.

rchau28 | April 17, 2019

Hey everyone! Just got my SR+ two weeks ago and loving. The audio is not as impressive as I thought it would be. Does anyone know if the audio can be upgraded through software update option as a purchase add-on?

lindauer | April 20, 2019

@model3cars. Sorry I slow to get back. Wifey had me on a cruise in the Caribbean. Internet is very expensive. No pics, but if you pull up the back seats on the right hand side there is a power term block. Get you meter out. He also pulled off the under dash in the front, found the terminal block of connectors. Then he turned on the radio and used his meter to locate the active audio on the door speakers. He already knew that those speakers were full range. He just did not remember the wire colors. Sorry I do not remember more but it works great.

tutuappvipxyz | April 20, 2019

I have come across the speakers issue with the model x3 but yes, it was fixed after certain times but now it is working pretty fine with all the apps such as tutuapp and all. Download it from https://tutuappvip.xyz/

TeslaTap.com | April 20, 2019

@metalhawk - Thanks, updated the article with your info!

Lonestar10_1999 | April 20, 2019

It would be great if Tesla would offer an after market upgrade for SR+ owners to bring the audio quality equal to the premium audio. It could be an SC installation or from a Tesla authorized installer.

Considering the M3 complexity and the expense of out of warranty repairs, I would never have an audio system upgrade by an unauthorized installer.

model3cars | April 20, 2019

@lindauer . That's very good information, thank you! Last thought, which sub & amp did you get? If your installer is in southern cali, can you share the shop name?

I wonder if you were able to tap the audio signal for full range audio, can your installer link that signal into the back rear two 4" speakers (currently not working in SR+) and power them from the aftermarket amp, this could add more sound and give u 2 more speakers working...

lmorda2 | May 23, 2019

I am also very unhappy with my sound system. I would definitely purchase a market upgrade to the audio system if Tesla is considering this. I'm wondering if there will be a Tesla authorized installer in Southern California who will take this on? There's got to be like at least 10,000 SR+ drivers in this area (ballpark figure).

I'm really frustrated that I was not able to purchase the mid range model with the full premium package. The day I went to place my order, that model disappeared from the website. Yes I had five or six months to buy this model, I understand, but there was no official statement saying that the model was a limited release. Some kind of a act now if you're planning on buying the mid range tweet would have been nice. I was aware of the bloggers calling it the LEMR (limited edition mid range), but I didn't realize it would be that limited!

So I was officially left with the decision of whether or not to pay $7,000 for a good sound system... which I chose not to do. I'm most surprised that there is no way to upgrade the system. It's my understanding that the car is not wired for hooking up an amp or subwoofer, and that even if you found a way to do so it would void the warranty on the car?

It's a bummer because I do love literally everything else about the car. But this bait and switch feeling I still have is really preventing me from loving the car. The system is really crappy. I listen to a lot of bass heavy music, and it just sounds like a thud instead of a boom. The final price of mine was about $43k (without autopilot + FSD), I'd expect this in a car worth like $30k. Everytime I show off my car, i.e. the neighbor wants to check it out, I always say yeah I like it but I didn't get the option I wanted and I start whining like a baby that I didn't get my audio system. I know this is ridiculous and I'm ungrateful, I'm just saying that as a car company or a tech company you want your customers to fall in love with the product. And I was literally a couple of days away from falling in love with mine.

So Tesla if you're listening I would gladly pay the extra couple thousand bucks to get a booming system in my SR+ comparable to what is only now available in the LR Preemy

lbowroom | May 23, 2019

There are aftermarket options. I forget the company but it's pretty pricey. Voiding warranty is a wives tale. A modification must be proven by the manufacturer to be the cause of failure and then only that part of the warranty wouldn't be honored. Example if you add an amp and it blows up a speaker, the speaker isn't covered, however you battery, drivetrain, body, and other electronics warranty are not affected. It's law. This principle applies to all systems of your car. Look up Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. Anyone who tries to scare you with that is blowing pure smoke.

ameetm3 | May 30, 2019

I am one of those who got a SR+ and have been cursing myself for not having the premium audio ever since, especially after learning that it is one of the best in the market. But I did save a lot of money by not getting the long range.

Having said that, I think the audio system in the SR+ is above average. Its very crisp and clear even with the rear / a-pillar speakers turned off. If the premium audio is a 10/10, I would rate the SR+ a 6/10. If and when the speakers are enabled, I would think it would bump up to 8/10. Just add an aftermarket sub-woofer from a professional for 1K, then you get premium audio.

nabguy | June 7, 2019

Took delivery of my SR+ 2 weeks ago and knew I was not getting the best audio experience available, but for the price I paid, I was satisfied with the initial output. That being said, I just received the 16.3.2 update last night and noticed an immediate decrease in audio quality, playing the same audio I have for 2 weeks. Toggling the immersive settings on and off seems to make no change while before I did notice a difference. Sound does not feel as "full" as it did initially and the volume does not seem as strong as it required higher levels this morning. Has anyone else experienced similar issues after a software update?

Smalm | June 7, 2019

Pretty sure my SR+ came with 16.3.2 (picked up on Wednesday) since I’ve yet to experience an update. And I don’t hear a difference with immersive of or on. Granted only sources tried so far are FM radio and Bluetooth streaming.

soloaf | June 12, 2019

Got a base SR delivered and the sound system sounds damn good, and I'm comparing it to a high in Audi Q5 system.

Only thing I found was there no Subwoofer and no rear deck speakers. Looking to diy add one.

The front 3 speakers work and sound good. Oddly the rear deck speakers are isntalled, Tesla is weird.

dallinjhales | June 12, 2019

My wife's Nissan Cube came with tweeter grills, but no tweeters. Good to know all speakers are in there, even if they aren't turned on. There has to be a future update to turn them on. My Tacoma (up for sale) has a lot of aftermarket sound equipment and the SR+ we ride in a dually sounded pretty good! I could tell the subwoofer wasn't there right away though.

model3cars | June 16, 2019

There's a how-to guide to make inactive speakers work and add in a sub for SR/SR+ through aftermarket equipments.

Go to teslaownersonline dot com and search for thread "Guide: Model 3 SR+ aftermarket to enable speakers and subwoofer upgrade install"