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for tall people?

I've reserved a model S, but am concerned it may not work out.

I'm 6'1", but seem to have a long torso. Have found that most sedans do not fit me when sitting upright. When I meet people in my situation, they almost universally have purchased or strongly considered the VW Passat. Per the FAQ, Tesla seems to be concerned that the vehicle will be tall enough, so I wonder if Tesla has considered using the Passat as a benchmark, to assure that it will be comfortable for taller people. Anyone have an info on passenger compartment design ?

Steve

Volker.Berlin | June 20, 2011

I think this question can only really be answered by test driving the actual (not yet available) production model. Yet, there has been some discussion on this topic before:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/headroom

dsm363 | July 15, 2011

I seriously doubt you'll have a problem at 6'1" in the Model S but the only way to know is to drive the beta version when it's available since that shouldn't be any different than the production model (in terms of size). I wouldn't cancel your reservation until you get a chance to drive one.

rxcemail | July 17, 2014

Old thread, I know - but at 6'4 and long-torsoe'd - I can tell you for 100% certainty I did not fit into the Model S. Honestly it wasn't close. I got about 3/4 of the way into the seat, and found myself wedged between the opening, the seat, and the steering wheel.

Elon is a genius in my opinion - but the S might just stand for "Short" :) ..Hoping the X is long-torso-friendly.

pabeader | July 17, 2014

Was it a PANO top? They are taller. I fit and I'm 6' tall and 6' round.

mdbuehler | July 17, 2014

Tight fight for me (6'2+") and probably not possible without the sun roof option, which gave me the perfect excuse to get it :) I was surprised how low the roof is in this car. Haven't had my hair touch the ceiling since my 70's Fiat! With the pano-roof, no issues and no claustrophobia feeling on the test drive. If you are tall, be sure to drive one with it, and be extra sure to try one without if you don't plan on getting the sun roof.

hcwhy | July 17, 2014

I'm not even tall...5'9 but a big guy...and it's bizarre, but I can get in and out of the driver's seat no problem, but I have a struggle getting into the passenger side, no matter how the seat is set. Luckily I drive it most of the time so it doesn't really matter. Strange, I know.

GAGSTESLA | July 17, 2014

No problem at all for this 6'1 guy. No pano roof either. Back seat? it is tight there.

lak_ers | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'3" and I test drove the S85 with pano roof and had no issues at all. Took the car for about an hour test drive and not once did my head hit the roof or did I feel uncomfortable.
I will be ordering my S85 with pano soon.

L

sschlief | July 17, 2014

6'4" here. I've had my P85 for four months and love it! With the pano roof there is absolutely no headroom issues. Would I like the seat to go a little further back?...sure, but headroom is no problem. And without the center console I have no issues with legroom. You should be fine at 6'1". Order and enjoy!

Webcrawler | July 17, 2014

I am 6'-4" and do not have any issues in the front seats. Taller people will appreciate the extra head room in the rear that the Pano Roof offers....

It is a little hard for taller drivers to get in and out of the car in my opinion...

Brian10 | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'3", own a Model S without a pano roof and fit fine in the driver's seat. My hair brushes up against the roof if I sit in the back so I make a point of never sitting in the back (more fun to drive than to be a passenger) and I've instructed by boys to stop growing when they reach 6'3" but they won't listen to me. I'll just get new kids when my boys outgrow my Model S.

ktrivedi70 | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'3 and do not have the pano roof. No problems at all.

renwo S alset | July 17, 2014

ktrivedi70. Me too. (and no, I'm not talking about a Mustang).

gfb107 | July 17, 2014

I am 6'4 with long torso (34" inseam). When I test drove a Model S with the panoramic roof, there was adequate head room in the front seats, without having to recline significantly. Upward visibility was restricted; if I was the first car in line at a traffic light I had to lean way forward over the steering wheel in order to see the traffic light. Second in line was still awkward, 3rd in line was fine.

There was just barely enough headroom clearance in the back seat, definitely felt too tight for me to ride for any length of time. A big bump would likely cause my head to hit the roof. But I wouldn't expect to ride in the back ever.

BTW there are very few sedans I can sit in comfortably, so I consider the Model S a pretty good fit, and I would purchase one (with panoramic roof only) without any concern about head room. There are even a number of CUVs I don't fit in at all.

I'm hoping the Model X improves this, for the front and second rows. I don't need to fit in the 3rd row. I don't expect I will fit in the Model III.

tga | July 17, 2014

I'm similar to the OP - 6'1", 32" inseam. Driver's seat is fine (w/ or w/out Pano). Rear is "snug", but better w/ the Pano.

jbrown | July 17, 2014

6'8" (200 cm) with 36" inseam Pano roof, no huge issue with my P85, but I would love to sit about 2 inches lower for better visibility through the top of the windshield. Foot position also needs to change a little. 6'1 should not be a problem at all.

beun | July 17, 2014

6'5" here with a 34" inseam and a Pano roof. No problems with head room but agree that I too would like to sit just a little lower.

Neige | July 17, 2014

I'm 6' 6", had my model S for a year now and found it amazingly comfortable. I think the pano roof helps a lot with headroom. Plenty of leg room.

sbeggs | July 17, 2014

Wow! I can really look up to all of you!

wcalvin | July 17, 2014

6'2", 32" inseam. First thing I check out on a new car in the showroom is side and rear visibility, second is headroom.

With the pano option, I have as much headroom as in our Lexus 430. No problem at all. Without pano, it was as tight as most other cars.

The rear seats require slouching down to get headroom.

kawdennis | July 17, 2014

I'am 6"1 Too and have no problem but I do have the pano roof, I must admit that my 2012 Prius does have more room, but when you floor that little pedal to the right of the brake the Prius does almost nothing but the Tesla P85 just makes me smile

Gadfly | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'4" and it is extremely comfortable with plenty of headroom, and I do not have the sunroof, which has even more headroom.

That"s the front seat. I can't sit in the back. Doubt if anyone over 6' can.

designs900 | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'6" and have no problem getting out of my model S. I must say though who ever sits in the back behind me will find it tight.

Mike

johncrab | July 17, 2014

I'm 6'3" and in the model with the standard roof, no problems. The pano roof gives you about an extra 1.5" of clearance. The best advice is to take a test drive and see what it's like in real world conditions.

socalsam | July 17, 2014

6'4" here and had no problem in the front seat with regular roof. Back sets was a bit tight on headroom for me with the regular roof but it ended up getting pano roof and found no issues at all in front and back with pano.

Sleeper | July 17, 2014

6'3", pano roof, very comfortable, have not felt cramped or close to the roof. Test drive it, buy it, never look back...

shs | July 18, 2014

I am 6'6", 36" inseam, pano roof, and have no problem in either the front or back seat (as long as my much shorter wife is driving). At least with my original textile seats, lowering the driver's seat to the lowest end of the range greatly improves headroom and legroom. I take it all the way down and then back up a bit. All the way back is not all the way back unless you also lower the seats.

NKYTA | July 18, 2014

6'2", no pano, no problem in the front. Never sit in the back, but my hair brushes slightly w/o slouching. If I'm in the back, I'm probably laying down sleeping anyway.

Darmok | July 18, 2014

6'5", 36" inseam, no pano. Absolutely no issues in the driver's seat, lots more room than the old Lexus RX 330 both for legs and head. Backseat is unusable for me but I'm never in it.

Brian H | July 20, 2014

hcwhy;
Heh. Try getting into the driver's seat without touching the steering wheel, or with your hands in your pockets. That'll learn ya. ;)

Ryan D. | July 20, 2014

6'4" and I have no issues with headroom. I have the Pano option, if I didn't then maybe it would be an issue. One month into owning my car and I have no complaints in terms of the driver dimensions. My prior car was a '12 Volvo S60 for reference.

donaldmeacham1 | July 20, 2014

6'4" with 34" inseam with pano roof no problems with head room or comfortable driving position.

sule | July 20, 2014

6'3". Cannot fit it many cars. For example, had trouble getting into Audio Q7 (!!!) with its pano roof. No problem with S. I got pano roof because it adds apace in MS but was able to fit nicely in the basic roof loaner as well.

Sevenfeet | July 20, 2014

I don't own a Tesla, but I have test driven one and I have three friends who own them. My nickname is Sevenfeet but I'm really 6'11" with a 40" inseam. There really isn't a car made today (Tesla included) that gives me an ideal seating position. And many auto brands don't work at all. Nearly all Asian brands won't work (Lexus excepted, and only for certain larger models). BMW and Mercedes depends on the model, Audi doesn't work at all. And all sports cars are off-limits (usually physically impossible to drive). For the domestics, GM is the best for me with Chrysler second. Ford cars don't work at all (big or small). To that end, I've been driving mostly Cadillacs since my early 20's.

One make I can drive is MINI (ironically). The internally packaging with a flat dashboard allows my knees to be free enough to move about without being wedged into something. I can even fit into standard MINI Cooper (snuggly). My wife drives a MINI Countryman, largely because I can drive it too.

The Model S took me a while to get a seating position I liked but once I found it, it was decent (not great, but decent). My biggest issue is with the mega-screen, which tends to bump by right knee occasionally. Headroom was fine...much of my height is in my legs so I don't have the headroom issues some tall folks do (that being said, I'm still eliminated from a lot of smaller vehicles from both headroom and legroom).

When I judge a vehicle for size, I have the following categories:
1. Comfortable enough for me to own
2. Comfortable enough for me to rent
3. OK in an emergency (nothing else at the rental counter)
4. Not a chance. (Most vehicles are this category)

The Tesla Model S for is a 1* with the asterisk about my knee and the screen. I simply don't have enough seat time in one to make a decision on whether the car is ownable versus just rentable.

moorelin | October 16, 2014

random post test

Brian H | October 16, 2014

random post test

Captain_Zap | October 16, 2014

Someone using multiple names?

Brian H | October 16, 2014

Testing weird forum behaviour.

Gadfly | October 17, 2014

I am 6'4", long torso, and I have absolutely no problem whatsoever. I would note that if you are 6'2" the backseat is torture.

genedr @ny-us | October 19, 2014

Maybe get your tailor to take measurements. I am 44long, 31", 6'1" and fit in my pano-roof S85 beautifully.
Other measurements on request.

No offense to VW, but wouldn't it be counterintuitive to benchmark a designed-to-break-the-mold TM sedan off a
(ahem) Passat?

Songman | October 29, 2014

I'm 6'3", my son is 6'4" and his best friend is 6'6" - we all fit into my MS85 (pano roof) with no problem. Seems odd to me that so many of you guys don't fit...

Brian H | October 29, 2014

You're all leg.

bobrobert | October 29, 2014

Post testing doesn't reveal much about the forum efficacy unless compared to a pre-test

Gadfly | October 30, 2014

Songman

How do you all find the back seat?

sbeggs | October 30, 2014

@Gadfly,
by looking aft of the front seat?

Songman | October 30, 2014

@SBeggs = LOL! @Gadfly - I've only been a passenger in my own car a few times, but one of those times I was in the back, with my son's 6'6" friend in front of me. It wasn't like business class on Virgin Atlantic, but I wasn't uncomfortable.

sbeggs | October 30, 2014

@Songman, I wish I was familiar with Virgin Atlantic business class!

doug | October 30, 2014

I'm 6-5 and have no problems with head room once I'm in the car and the seat is adjusted. But unlike other cars I have driven, the car does not recognize me by my key. So before I even get in I have to reach over and select my seat settings from the controls on the pad. It takes a few more seconds and finally the seat and steering wheel are in my position vs my wife's. Maybe in a future software update they can make this easier. Or at least put the seat settings on the door controls ( like BMW) so I don't have to reach over the seat to get to the pad before I can get in.

Brian H | October 30, 2014

doug;
Create an "Exit" profile which leaves the seat accessible to all.