Upcoming Factory Visit - List of questions for Attendees

Upcoming Factory Visit - List of questions for Attendees

Since many of us forum members and lurkers will be living vicariously through the factory attendees, I thought it may be time to collect a list of questions and requests since we all are anxiously awaiting further details on the Betas.

(1) I'll start the list and ask for MORE PICTURES. Basically, as many as they will let you take. I find it frustrating to wait to see what the back seat looks like, the storage, the roof from the inside, etc.

(2) I'd also like to ask someone that is about 6'4" 250lbs to let me know what the headroom, legroom is like in the Beta. A comparison to another auto model would be very happy because this I can relate to. I understand Elon is about this height but from what I've seen he isn't built like a linebacker (or maybe more realistically closer to a lineman).

(3) I'd love to see a list of color combinations (interior/exterior) to be offered

(4) I'd love to see a list of standard and optional features. Like full glass roof, or audio.

Please add to this thread if there are specific things you are dying to see or find out about.

Thanks everyone,

Brad Holt | September 14, 2011

If they're not shooting anything official, I'll try to get some footage guerrilla-style. ;)

Volker.Berlin | September 14, 2011

Yeah, those demo betas will be busy!

That event may as well double as a stress test for the units at work. Stop - go - top accel - repeat. For hours on end. :-)

EdG | September 14, 2011

3000 people on test drives with an average of 3 passengers each is 1000 test rides. Over 2 days is 500 test rides per day. If there are 10 test drive vehicles, then thats 50 rides per vehicle. If each test ride is for 2 miles, then each will travel 100 miles. Under these assumptions, I guess you won't see any battery swapping demonstrations.

Maybe one reason for the 2 days of demos is to ensure the 300 mile batteries don't need recharging between demo rides, but, instead, can be recharged overnight.

Timo | September 15, 2011

It would be cool if they show Tesla fast charger in action in there too.

If that 50 rides / vehicle is correct and they reserve four hours for those rides then that's 240 minutes / 50 rides. 4.8 minutes / ride. That's then 2,4 miles / vehicle / ride if average speed is 30mph. Five minutes behind the wheel sounds reasonable.

With that timetable you wouldn't need to recharge those at all. Even smallest battery pack could handle that.

gjunky | September 15, 2011

I am less optimistic about the length / duration of the rides. Looking at videos from the alpha announcements, it sounded more like a quick loop although I hope we will get a ride on the local track and get some idea on how the cars will perform. Anything beyond that would be a bonus for me.

William13 | September 15, 2011

I expect a two minute ride.

MTriantafelow | September 15, 2011

"If they're not shooting anything official, I'll try to get some footage guerrilla-style. ;)" @Brad Holt

Yes please. I will be monitoring YouTube and these forums like it's my job on Oct. 1. If anyone uses Twitter or Google+ and plans to be doing live updates let the community know, pick up some followers.

engle | September 16, 2011

I live in Fremont, CA. My wife and I will be at the factory on Oct. 2nd. I'll bring my iPhone and iPad so can do live updates on Google+. My id is russell.engle on Google+ if you can't make it and would like to put me in a circle to follow.

EdG | September 16, 2011

Given that most of us probably can't get into Google+, would someone who can please remember to get the rest of us some other link? Thanks.

MTriantafelow | September 16, 2011

Would you like a Google+ invite? I can send you one. Just need your Google Account name.

EdG | September 16, 2011

Their site says they aren't even taking invites now, but I'm game: (this mailinator stuff is nice.. thanks, forum!)

Brad Holt | September 16, 2011

I'll post some photos on my own site, and most likely a video for the YouTubes. :)

Discoducky | September 17, 2011

I'll post to Skydrive and make them all public. Planning on shooting video and pic's.

ncn | September 17, 2011

I'll repeat my one big question: Someone PLEASE take a tape measure or ruler and measure the underclearance, and clearance to the bottom of the door, "for real". It shouldn't take long.

Those numbers never are exactly as announced and a lot of us are concerned -- underclearance might be a very reassuring measurement of 6 inches or more, or it might be a very worrisome measurement of 3 inches or less...

Larry Chanin | September 17, 2011


"Those numbers never are exactly as announced and a lot of us are concerned -- underclearance might be a very reassuring measurement of 6 inches or more, or it might be a very worrisome measurement of 3 inches or less..."

I agree that this is an important measurement, but I find it rather unlikely that the clearance would be 3 inches or less. It is interesting to note that the Model S's stated ground clearance is consistent with other luxury sport sedans, and not as low as a few. I guess that as a result of this, some of us will have to get used to a stiffer suspension.

Visit Comparing Sedan on
Suspension-Ground Clearance (in)


Silver One | September 17, 2011

Please post new video of the factor if they will let you.
Please film or take picture of the metal production and paint facility.
I am eager to see the color combo.

MTriantafelow | September 17, 2011

You can still get an invite from someone who is already in. Sent you one.

EdG | September 18, 2011

@MTriantafelow: please send an email to so we can continue this conversation out of the forum. Thanks.

ncn | September 26, 2011

@Larry Chanin

Thanks for that link. This is *why* I want an actual physical measurement. My Dad has an A6. It claims on that list that it has 4.6" underclearance. But if you get down there with a ruler, it has significantly more whereever it matters, over 5".

Suspension-ground clearance must be measured in a funny way. Either there's only one tiny part protruding downward (perhaps right near the wheels) or it's measured under some sort of "worst case scenario" which doesn't include properly inflated tires, or *something*.

I am wondering what the real-world clearance when going over bumps and potholes is, and it often seems larger than the quoted clearance. I hope the same is true for the Model S....

kublai | September 27, 2011


I'd like a google+ invite. Send to kubl4i. Thanks.

EdG | September 27, 2011

Google+ is now open to all. No invite needed.

Bgu | September 27, 2011

Ground clearance is normally measured where the wishbones of the suspention are mounted on and bolted into the car's frame. That bolt is the reference. Of course this depends a lot of the settings of the supension which I guess is not final at all. You could easily change it 20 to 30mm depending on height selection of the suspension and bump forces of the damper.
In anycase, I promise to take a ruler with me to measure the current setting :-)

BYT | September 28, 2011

I watch a lot of technology podcasts and it would be awesome if I can connect my iPhone to the center counsel and listen / watch the Podcasts on that 17" screen (I often make my wife drive so I can catch up on them as well so to watch and hear them in the car would be SAH-WEET!).

cerjor | September 28, 2011

Will it be able to be pre-cooled or pre-heated while plugged in? That would take some pressure off the batteries.

cerjor | September 28, 2011

Which charging cable will come standard with the model S? I hope it is the universal mobile connector that I can plug into a 50A outlet.

gjunky | September 29, 2011

If I have any cell / WiFi coverage during the event, I will try to take some pictures and upload them to a Picasa Web Album

You can follow me on Google+ under the user name "ggjunky" or directly to the album

Doogue | September 29, 2011

Excited about factory tour (wife thinks I'm strange), but have not yet received a confirmation to my RSVP response, nor any additional info. Anyone else not received anything yet?

Brad Holt | September 29, 2011

I'll try to post everywhere, but these three will be my most shared-upon places. Happy stalking! :)

Twitter: @thebradholt
Google Plus:

Tritium8 | September 30, 2011

who else could capture the Model S in all it's glory, no one comes to mind...
will you be taking the RED to the event?
.. and don't be alarmed i'm far away in Austria... so cyberstalking you (links provided in the post above.) for stunning pictures


Brad Holt | September 30, 2011

Nah, I won't be taking the RED with me, but I will have a 5Dii for stills and video. I'll definitely shoot with my phone too though, for more prompt web posting. :)

Brian H | September 30, 2011

Brad just FB'd that the S Design Studio is up:

That was his, I guess. Here's the generic site:

Brian H | September 30, 2011

Paint, roof, and wheels are the only "variables" available so far.
Only the Signatures get red.

nickjhowe | October 1, 2011

I'll be there tonight. Watch out for photos and videos on +nickjhowe and @nickjhowe

Brad Holt | October 3, 2011

Did anybody find out how soon the other features would be released in the design studio? Early November would be cool... :D

Christy | October 3, 2011

Perhaps this video will answer some questions.

CPM | October 4, 2011

Brad that is weird you said November. That was the time frame that one of the techs by the design studio display at the Oct 1st event said it would be there. He stated it needed to be done by the time the Seattle store opens.

Brad Holt | October 4, 2011

I'm a good guesser ;)

ThomasN | October 4, 2011

Looks like christy 2 posts above is linking a virus

Timo | October 5, 2011

I didn't see virus there. That links me to this youtube video:

ThomasN | October 5, 2011

I appogize if I was mistaken. I googled "" and virus warnings popped up everywhere. Again I appologize, but I'm still suspicious of links with alternate spellings and domains and wouldn't click it...

Volker.Berlin | October 5, 2011

Actually, when you click "Share" in YouTube, the YouTube website itself offers an abbreviated link (presumably to make it fit better into twitter messages), using the domain.

Timo | October 5, 2011 is actually shorter name for and it is their own domain name and not some other provider linking in it. That one is safe.

You are right that many other even slightly dubious domain name links should be handled wearing biosuites.

Nicu | October 5, 2011

there are affordable computer systems out there on which you would never be afraid of doing anything because of some random virus; life is too short to use garbage tools

Timo | October 5, 2011

Like Macs? Those can have viruses and in many cases have been wide open for hackers for months before getting fixes. Reason why they do not get many malwares is that nobody bothers to do any for such a marginal product.

Could you please leave your preaching out of these forums, please.

Nicu | October 5, 2011

You clearly never owned one, you have no idea what you're talking about. In particular one in four laptops sold in US (retail) is a Mac now. You are clueless even in this respect. Your attitude is exactly the same as of those who "hate" EVs, which have almost religious promoters (not all of them, obviously but the term EVangelist is well established, and proudly so for some) and which are very far away from 1% of the market. The same misinformation (as yours about Macs) is thrown around by clueless people.

Timo | October 6, 2011

I can turn that around and say that you are clueless to claim that macs don't have problems. I have industrial level experience of this for about 15 years now, I know what I'm talking about. You apparently don't.

I will ignore you from now on, you are clearly too childish to be bothered to discuss with.

Nicu | October 6, 2011

That's what I was going to suggest, just ignore my posts. I'm glad you managed to get there by your own thinking.

Brad Holt | October 6, 2011

Hey kids, let's grow up and move on please. Thanks.
In other news, here are my shots from the event for those who haven't caught the link elsewhere: