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Something is happening.... I have become ridiculous! I am 55 years old and acting like a teenager in love! Completely distracted, obsessed! I have a nice, sweet Acura that very comfortable, gets me everywhere I need to go, occasionally high maintenance, but loyal and reliable. A couple of weeks ago, I started somewhat idly looking at new cars. Then I saw the Tesla Model S, and was immediately "smitten!" I like nice cars, but I have never been a "car guy," never been passionate like this about a car! Since that time it gets worse every day! I find myself daydreaming, like the kid who is in love with that girl that he knows is "too good for him," just beyond his reach. I can't spend this much on a car! (My lust is for nothing less that the S performance 85, loaded) But I can't help myself! I have read every article and review, seen every video. Yesterday, on my way home from work, all I could think of was Model S! I get home and I can't wait to get online and see pictures and videos of her! She is so gorgeous! And I just can't help but imagine what she would be like in my hands, if she were mine, what she is capable of! What seduction! I can't even look at any other car anymore! She is all I want! I can't get her out of my mind! Help!

GettingOldFast | March 21, 2013

Congrats, imherkimer! I think you've hit the nail on the head. And it's great to know that I'm not the only one with this unshakeable feeling.
I put in my reservation on 12/28/12, and I'll be picking up my 60kw on Sunday, 3/24/13, less than 3 months after being told "6 to 9 months." And it certainly doesn't hurt that the people on this forum are so nice and infinitely informative about my favorite subject.
One friend of mine, a financial advisor, said, "it's a nice car, and if you could guarantee me the future viability of the company a few years from now...." True, I had to admit his concern was valid, but this car is going to serve me for 8 years or more regardless, even if the company goes under (God forbid!), so long as I have an electrical outlet in my house. But this skepticism does speak to our obligation as EVangelists to spread the word about this planet-changing technology, as some were talking about on a post I read yesterday regarding personalized license plates. The more people (like you and I) who realize the importance of investing in this budget-stretching technology, the greater the chance that it will truly change the world.
Again, congrats!

DerekCrosby | March 21, 2013

I agonized for weeks, "The Volt is 1/2 of what the tesla costs" !!!
I said to myself... I could Buy two for 1 Tesla !
I don't know if the company will be around...
It's the first Run of Tesla's (S), let them work out the bugs...

In the end I'm about to put ink to paper and sign my order today ot tomorrow, I just have to get an OK for the $10K increase in the loan, due to taxes and such.

So do your homework, there are a lot of "Hidden Costs in plain sight" like the $7,500.00 isn't coming back to you until next year's taxes. Tax on the car. Insurance.

From a rational perspective it's a heck of a price if you're used to Sub $20K cars, from a "Getting in on the ground floor" thinking who knows where Tesla's will go, you may be getting a First issued Ferrari, when they were expensive, but now well known, and in 20 Years you may be saying "I owned a first generation Tesla S, my First EV".

I have had the same issues (Can't get it off my mind), and they get worse once you get a Test Drive. The car behaves amazingly, both in performance and handling.

tylerhen | March 21, 2013

Doesn't sound like it will help you Derek, but make sure you look into your local state EV incentives as well. In Washington, there is no sales tax on EVs at all. So after configuring my Tesla, I just had to add the $1000 for delivery and that was the final price. I also modified my W-4 to start getting the $7500 tax credit back now instead of giving an interest free loan to the government for the next year.

I called around and looked at different insurance companies and in the end, I am switching companies, but my premium only goes up about $50/6 months and I am trading in a Kia Rio for the MS.

DouglasR | March 21, 2013

Regarding charging in remote locations, the key is planning. For example, here are two sites that list RV parks, with information on charging facilities. You would need to call ahead to learn about their prices and policies regarding charging:

http://www.rvparkreviews.com/regions/Wyoming

http://koa.com/find-a-koa/

herkimer | March 21, 2013

@DouglasR Thanks so much for the links.
Still plenty of time to plan.... and dream
Today it's snowing a little blizzard here
Like all the little thoughts of the coming pearl S
that keep blowing through my mind
Oh the places we' go!

ian t.wa.us | March 21, 2013

Congrats on pulling the trigger!

North central Wyoming? Cody or Sheridan? I grew up in Jackson (live in Washington state now). I have fond memories of a trip with my Pops to the Buffalo Bill center in Cody when I was in my early teens.

Be sure to give us a delivery update when she arrives!

Cheers!

herkimer | March 21, 2013

Do need to learn the charging resources for planning routes through remote areas.
I suspect it's not so difficult with 85 kwh. But let's just say there are some really nice drives throughout the region but distances are long and mountainous ... Will be so interesting to learn the energy use behavior, performance in varying conditions. How great to venture out through the country with a minimum of noise no gas and no fumes, and with plenty of room for stuff. And all the while be super fun and gorgeous! She's all I've ever wanted ... sigh. Gotta get back to work.

DouglasR | March 21, 2013

The funny thing is, when I first reserved the car three and a half years ago, I assumed it would be for around town and short trips only. I heard nothing about superchargers and did not expect to be able to take the car on road trips. When TM announced the supercharger concept, it opened a whole new world of possibilities. Still, I had grown accustomed to flying when I wanted to travel anywhere further than a couple of hundred miles from home. Now that I have the car, I find I want to drive it every chance I get, and long road trips have become very attractive to me. So finding or building the appropriate charging infrastructure has now become something of an obsession. I can't wait for the superchargers to be built out.

Brian H | March 21, 2013

Oh, the mental disorientation. Going from minimizing driving time to maximizing. What a brain "overturn"! :D

herkimer | March 23, 2013

@goneskian: thanks, yes, I live in Sheridan. Will update when she's on her way and when she shows up!

@ DouglasR: After doing some checking and some preliminary planning for longer road trips from here, it turns out the big factor is time. Because its not difficult to find a charge, its just that at the moment there is no fast charging anywhere around. So to go from here to Denver, 426 miles, that is about "a full charge and a half" or more. Fastest available is in a RV park, or KOA campground using RV charger 240v 14-50 will charge half the battery in about 4 hours. In this way the trip to Denver goes from 7 hours to 11 hours, and a round trip from 14 hours to 22 hours on the road (ouch!) As long as we have plenty of time, we can hang around and wait for the car to charge half way there, or divide it up, stopping for two hours in two different locations (probably double the fee for charging -- one place told me it would cost $20.00 to charge up). I have a friend along the way. I feel strange asking if I can stop by to use the dryer outlet!
Hmmm. Still a ways to go till it is as convenient as a gas car, for trips like this, that's for sure. But where there are fast charging or superchargers available that will make all the difference. I could even wait for 1 hour if necessary, but 4 hours, that's just killer. Gonna have to have plenty of time and no hurry to get somewhere. Even the Tesla rep told me "if you need to drive to Denver anytime in the foreseeable future, you will probably need to use a regular gas car." Its true and its reality. If its a leisurely road trip, or a short one, not a problem. If you gotta get there pretty soon, or go and come right back (such as when we occasionally need to pick up someone at DIA), its problematic at this point. Building charging infrastructure IS critical to the long term viability of this technology. (BTW I do believe the charging stations will for the most part be more practical than the battery swap concepts being talked about around the net.)

DouglasR | March 23, 2013

@imherkimer: Yes, I think you nailed the problem. Currently there is a string of 70 amp stations along the west coast from Vancouver BC to San Diego. I have twin chargers, and was able to borrow a Roadster-to-S adapter for a drive from Seattle to the SF Bay Area. Still, it took two days at about 12 hours per day to make the 800 mile trip. That's about eight hours of slow driving and four hours of charging (it would have taken at least three days, maybe four, if I had to charge at 30-40 amps). Even if you have the time for a leisurely trip, it's boring to hang around waiting for your car to charge. Thus the key is finding places to charge where you have something to do: eat a meal, take a hike, visit a friend, or best of all, sleep. When superchargers are installed, it will be more like what you are accustomed to. Until then, it's a different kind of travel.

By the way, I made the round trip Seattle to SF without spending a penny on electricity, so it does pay to plan ahead. Also, your 426 miles from Sheridan to Denver will likely take more than 11 hours. Your driving will be slower because that will improve your range, and driving fast will actually take more time if you count the charging. And your charging will also be slower, since even on a 14-50 outlet, you will probably not get more than about 25 rated miles per hour of charge.

Long road trips will be slower for a few years, until the supercharger network is built out. But as I said in my earlier post, I didn't expect long road trips at all when I first ordered the car. So for me, even slow road trips give me a benefit I never bargained for.

herkimer | March 26, 2013

I haven't gotten to drive any kind of road, as yet, in the Model S.
So I am grateful for your sharing your experience.

So far from the perspective of this newbie:

I already knew that the experience of driving a well engineered electric car is just really different, and is some ways clearly superior to that of any ICE.

In one way, at this point in time, it is clearly not, and that is in the time of "refueling," since the gasoline infrastructure is in place just about everywhere, whereas access to fast charging is not.

But building out the vast number of gas stations over the decades, when you think about it, represented an enormous expenditure in money, materials, and man-hours. Building out the charging stations by comparison is cheap and quick and easy! And installing 250v 40a charging points in public locations from existing electrical infrastructure is, by comparison, awesomely simple, quick and, in many cases may require only one qualified electrician!

It made sense to build a gas station and profit not only on the sale of gas, but in the early days, also servicing the vehicle, and nowadays by selling drinks and hot dogs and cigarettes and stuff. And its big competition for "location, location, location" so that the real estate cost of petrol stations is often also quite significant. A charge point only takes up a parking space at an existing location.

Electricity, on the other hand is nearly everywhere already.
And the simple business incentive to attract customers by having a charging station at your restaurant, hotel, retail business, office complex and so on, will soon be seen as a cost-effective way to get exposure, get on the maps and the apps, and bring traffic (and in the case of Model S owners, already a demographic with a proven ability to spend some money!)It seems to me a nearly irresistible dynamic!

On another note: just overnight, the message on the wall in "My Garage" went from "Your order has been submitted to the Tesla factory." to "The Tesla Factory is building your Model S." My heart skipped a beat!

This is such a strange car buying experience! Suddenly I am rethinking everything! "Did I get the wrong color? the wrong options?" The obsession takes on new dimensions! Wondering! What is this wonder-car going to look like, feel like? Its like a pregnancy! (You can wait to tell everybody, but pretty soon its going to obvious!) I feel like my S has been conceived and is now being born somewhere in California as I write this!
Never have I purchased anything in this way in my life! Even the old "build your own computer online" model, when it first came out, didn't GRAB me like this has.

Buying the model S taps into so many different things on varying levels its astonishing. It IS disruptive, and I find the way in which it is disruptive to be thrilling. No purchase of a "consumer item" has ever been like this for me.

Also the buying experience so far has indirectly drawn a bright line under all those reasons that negotiating purchase of a car in recent years has been onerous and I have avoided it!

This IS changing the world! I can see that I am not the only one who has that sense.

I find this a fascinating phenomenon to witness and to be a part of. Whatever else it is Tesla is visionary, brilliant, inspiring and challenging on so many levels.

No car will be perfect to everyone, and every mechanical construction, every machine made will be prone to have issues from time to time, and require some diligence and maintenance. I expect some occasional challenges and problems. See how Tesla handles it.
I am amazed and in awe of their boldness and willingness to put so much on the line to make this happen.

Tesla strives to re-engineer the whole process of purchase, ownership and maintenance, while designing and manufacturing from the ground up, a whole new and absolutely peerless automobile! For me it inspires, awe, and respect!

Its a human world, and people are complicated and difficult to please sometimes, also full of rivalry and intrigue! Effective human organization is always a mix of art and science, there will always be mistakes and setbacks and personnel issues!

As for Telsa's "experiment," lets see how they do! I for one will hope that reflections and criticism on these forums will be helpful. (What other car company does this?) Whatever way I can I would like to "help" in the revolution that Tesla is inspiring.

Seems to me so far that Tesla has been spectacular.
(BTW that does not say PERFECT)

There are some interesting dynamics at play, but looks to me like the "momentum" can only grow, and quickly!

GettingOldFast | March 26, 2013

@imherkimer

Your reflection is truly insightful and, apparently, more prevalent than I originally realized.

It brings to mind that song from Wicked (with apologies to Steven Schwartz):

What is this feeling so sudden and new?
I felt the moment I laid eyes on you.
My pulse is rushing
my head is reeling
my face is flushing
What is this feeling, fervid as a flame?
Does it have a name? Yessssss,
Tesla! Unadulterated Tesla!
For your screen
your speed
your handling
Let's just say I love it all.
Every little pick-up in the pace
Puts a silly smile upon my face
And I will be driving, driving you my whole life long!

Epley | March 26, 2013

4 months in and the feeling doesn't go away. I think about the car hundreds of times each day, and will make any excuse to go drive. Want me to run a mundane chore that I used to try to get out of--no problem!

Find a way to buy the car. You won't regret it.

Captain_Zap | March 26, 2013

My spouse confronted me yesterday because there was 100 extra miles on the car. It was sunny out and... and...

My car's mileage was never monitored before. I hope this battery performance and charging curiosity passes soon.

GettingOldFast | March 26, 2013

@Captain_Zap - She doesn't have the smartphone app yet, does she? Cuz if she does....

Captain_Zap | March 26, 2013

I switch the app off. ;-)

NOPetrol | April 11, 2013

You do indeed have some serious problems and need help. Your attachment to material objects should be directed human interaction. I saw a show on TLC with some guy sleeping with a stop sign. Maybe you guys can form a AA group and he can be your stop and you will be were he go...

Ddddei | April 11, 2013

Poet S!
Pro Se!

Bighorn | June 2, 2013

@Imherkimer
Haven't seen a white MS around Sheridan yet, but I did see a darker one on Brinton Rd. I'm kind of shocked Tesla showed up here so fast seeing as Hammer Chevrolet couldn't sell one Volt in over a year! Hope you're enjoying your ride--I'm thinking about pulling the trigger as well. Your description of obsession could have easily been my own words.

ppape | June 2, 2013

@imherkimer.

LOVE reading this thread! Love the honestly of emotion. The 3/26 post echoed many of my thoughts! You're out driving & to busy to post aren't you......we know. :-)))

This car by itself is just amazing, but to combine it with the revolutionary path we travel on as the pioneering first owners takes things to a new level......an intoxicating place that is just hard to describe, and I've enjoyed as many of you try to put it into words!!

The Nexus from the Star Trek movie comes to mind......

Wife of ppape.

herkimer | June 2, 2013

Hey Bighorn! Nice! We must be neighbors!
And, since I live on Brinton Road,
yes, likely mine is the S you've seen on Brinton Road.
Have you driven one yet?
my email: imherkimer@me.com

and ppape, thanks! And I so agree, more that just an amazing car, Tesla S is a revolutionary, opening the way for others to come in the future.

I know I haven't been back to this thread for awhile, so in the spirit of an update: after agonizing over choices a bit, ended up switching colors, upgraded to the tech package, and submitted my order mid April..... on May 10 I got an email saying the factory would complete my car on May 10! Delivery button and 6 days later it was coming off a very large truck in the middle of Big Horn, a very small town. Wow, after waiting, it seemed to arrive quite quickly!

And now, oh my, my, this most amazing car has arrived, and it has been flawless! I pinch myself. Everyday, every little drive to do whatever is amazing! Every day I enjoy it more. Acceleration is fun, yes, and it goes fast, but I find that going slow it is just the best! No need to hurry, got to make this last! The ride is so incomparable, the sound is very nice, the handling just ultra-responsive, every part of the car is quiet, smooth and able. One pedal driving is something so different, very relaxing, definitely gives a kind of "zen" feeling after awhile because its just so responsive to everything you want or need. Makes you want to just keep driving!

Yes, its true, I am visiting these forums less frequently. I have been out honey-moonin' around in my S, taking some long leisurely back roads in the springtime here in the Bighorn Mountains area. Can't get enough of it! With a Model S, driving is just dreamy!

The Tesla "syndrome" hasn't gotten any less!
As so many posters have commented here, it just grows stronger when you get the car!

It's some kind of magic carpet ride to Cloud 9.
Whew. Best. Car. Ever.

akikiki | June 2, 2013

@GettingOldFast, Hey "Fast", Captain_Zap is the she in that family. She was referring to her husband. She's so funny with so many of her comments.

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