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Will a $35k Model 3 ever be delivered?

Will a $35k Model 3 ever be delivered?

SR were available for configuration for 2 months.
Now autopilot comes included at a price increase of $2,000.
Will Tesla ship any $35k to the customers who had configured these options to honour their buyers agreement contract or will the price be updated before the delivery to the new cost announced today?

Xerogas | April 12, 2019

@EVolution: They start delivering this weekend. From the website “Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the online ordering menu, which just means that to get it, customers will need to call us or visit any one of the several hundred Tesla stores. Deliveries of Model 3 Standard will begin this weekend.”

EVolution | April 14, 2019

You were right

just got my VIN

jjgunn | April 14, 2019

I really like how Tesla is software limiting the cars. Remember a few years ago with the Model S "60" kW? (Software limited 75 kW) which they "uncorked"

For a small fee you can upgrade your car in the future.

That will help with manufacturing. 1 size fits all.

Wormtown Kris | April 14, 2019

And since this will be a slightly nerfed SR+, this ALSO means the $35k SR will get the partial Premium interior at no extra charge, correct? (And the option to unlock the longer battery range down the road- original buyer or second owner years down the line). Sounds like a great deal. Should somewhat temper the irritation at the longer than 2-4 week delivery times, I'd think.....

Magic 8 Ball | April 14, 2019

Jesus F'n Christ.

Bighorn | April 14, 2019

You know you can delete embarrassing posts.

Carl Thompson | April 14, 2019

@Wormtown Kris:
"And since this will be a slightly nerfed SR+, this ALSO means the $35k SR will get the partial Premium interior at no extra charge, correct?"

Correct. Which means that the "premium" interior materials, which many of us paid $5,000 extra for, is also the _base_ interior you get when you don't pay any extra. Go figure

EVolution | April 14, 2019

fock yeah

gordon_r_benson | April 14, 2019

FYI, I just called in and asked about downgrading (I am on day 6 of my return window, got the car last Monday). Was told I had to drive the car to the local store and return it and place a new order for the base SR if I wanted to downgrade.

EVolution | April 14, 2019

Are you going to do it?

gordon_r_benson | April 14, 2019

It won't let me say. Every time I try and post my answer I get an answer. Trying to post this to see if it goes through.

M3BlueGeorgia | April 14, 2019

@gordon_r_benson You should be able to downgrade an SR+ to an SR, though not entirely sure why, but to each their own, I suppose. There are formal statements on that.

Find one and email a request for a downgrade and a refund. Then politely follow up until it happens.

My expectation is you'll be driving an SR+ for a few weeks.

gordon_r_benson | April 14, 2019

Not sure why it's blocking my post. Here is the text I was trying to post EVo...
https://imgur.com/Yw2gTtx

M3BlueGeorgia | April 14, 2019

@gordon_r_benson I read your post. Wasn't very useful.

As I said, if you want to downgrade to what is now the SR from the SR+, send an email to Tesla sales to formally document your intention, preferably with some reference to an official Tesla or Elon statement about allowing the downgrade.

I doubt if it'll happen quickly, but you need to ensure you've formalized the start of the process.

Yes, we know that Tesla aren't going to build any cloth-based interiors for the SR, just a downgraded variant of the partial premium interior. At least not anytime soon.

EVolution | April 15, 2019

I wonder what my SR $35k Model 3 will have in it.

I will find out Saturday at 4PM

Neomaxizoomdweebie | April 15, 2019

@EVolution,
My best guess is that it will have a very happy customer in it.

mstoer | April 15, 2019

I don't understand how an SR is a software limited SR+, since the SR+ comes with premium interior and a full center console. How do you install those via software?

kenduong03 | April 15, 2019

@evolution
please report back once you get the car.

my guess is the leather seats is probably the only extra thing you'll get.

apodbdrs | April 15, 2019

Tesla delivers first $35,000 Model 3s to a happy few customers

https://electrek.co/2019/04/15/tesla-delivers-35000-model-3/

Carl Thompson | April 15, 2019

@mstoer:
"I don't understand how an SR is a software limited SR+, since the SR+ comes with premium interior and a full center console. How do you install those via software?"

There is no SR. Tesla is shipping SR+ Model 3s to SR orderers. They are just taking away a few software features.

There was never any metal roof, never any different console, never any manual seats, never any cloth seats and never any cheap interior.

It turns out the premium interior that many of us paid $5,000 extra for is the exact same interior that people get for paying $0 extra.

richtrav | April 15, 2019

For once I guess it pays to be cheap. It's a win-win for both Tesla and the people who ordered the 35K version. One question: is the "$35K" version still available for $35K if you call in and does it include autopilot (and did the people who paid 35K get autopilot?). I can live without every goodie the new SR has vs the SR+, I live in a warm winter climate so the heated seats are not a must-have and don't really stream music.

Carl Thompson | April 15, 2019

@richtrav

Not only that but since it is the same battery as the 240 mile SR+ just software limited to 220 miles you can charge to 100% every day without being overly worried about damaging the battery. You get the same range as the average SR+ driver who charges to ~90%.

ReD eXiLe ms us | April 16, 2019

Carl Thompson: Thanks for proving, yet again, that you can't count at all. Your concept of 'extra' is rather distorted. Perhaps actual reality and fact could affect your opinion, somehow?

B_Paratrooper | April 16, 2019

I would just like to know the actual process of downgrading, if all you lose is 10 percent of battery and heated seats then I'm all in on getting 2k back, that will cu almost 6 months off payments

Magic 8 Ball | April 16, 2019

@B_Paratrooper Did you try contacting TESLA as your first step?

Bighorn | April 16, 2019

According to a battery geek in Tesla service, one can not safely charge a software limited battery to 100% without the same degradation concerns of any other battery.

beaver | April 16, 2019

Idea: we should be able to figure out if Tesla locked the top or bottom 10% by looking at the battery voltage during charging. TeslaFi gives this info. Compare SR+ to SR and look at voltage at 100%. If 4V hen battery is charging to 100% not 90%

beaver | April 16, 2019

I think you have to supercharge to see battery cell voltage using TeslaFi

cmh95628 | April 16, 2019

Re: According to a battery geek in Tesla service, one can not safely charge a software limited battery to 100% without the same degradation concerns of any other battery.

Interesting. I would not have expected that! I wonder if they are taking some bricks out of the electrical mix by software-controlled solid-state switches, or something like that.

Bighorn | April 16, 2019

I got the sense it was pretty complicated and I was peppering him with a lot of different questions that had been hotly debated over the years.

jamespompi | April 16, 2019

Man the people that waited for the 35K version scored.. Software limited battery with the PUP interior minus a few software things and a subwoofer.

jamespompi | April 16, 2019

And it came out before the tax credit fully expired.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | April 16, 2019

One cool possibility with a software limited battery (bottom limited) is that owners who call roadside assistance after running out of juice could get a 10% boost to limp to the nearest supercharger (or home). For a nominal fee, of course.

Carl Thompson | April 16, 2019

@ReD eXiLe ms us:
"Thanks for proving, yet again, that you can't count at all. Your concept of 'extra' is rather distorted. Perhaps actual reality and fact could affect your opinion, somehow?"

The reality is that I paid $5,000 extra for premium upgrades.

Those upgrades included (among other things) a panoramic glass roof instead of the metal roof on cars without the upgrade, fake-leather seats instead of cheaper cloth, powered seat adjustments, powered steering wheel and mirror adjustments, a center console with phone dock and USB ports, and better cabin materials throughout than the low-end cars.

Now it turns out that people that paid $0 get those exact same things that Tesla said were reserved for people who paid for the premium interior.

The interior of my car is exactly the same as the lowest-end Model 3 despite me paying for a better version. That's reality.

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@Bighorn:

"According to a battery geek in Tesla service, one can not safely charge a software limited battery to 100% without the same degradation concerns of any other battery."

That's good to know but disappointing. I hope this wasn't done just to spite buyers who opt for a cheaper version.

Carl Thompson | April 16, 2019

@Neomaxizoomdweebie:
"One cool possibility with a software limited battery (bottom limited) is that owners who call roadside assistance after running out of juice could get a 10% boost to limp to the nearest supercharger (or home). For a nominal fee, of course."

Agreed, I guess that is a good consolation prize.

Iwantmy3 | April 16, 2019

Carl,
As for the metal roofs, I have never believed that there would be a metal roof option.
https://forums.tesla.com/en_HK/node/82289?page=1

beaver | April 16, 2019

revision on figuring out how Tesla locked SR battery, I checked my TeslaFi logs and you have to look at "Charger Voltage" while supercharging, it should start low (350V or so depending on your SOC), and slowly rise during charging until ~400V at 100% SOC (for a LR battery).

Anyone with TeslaFi and a SR willing to supercharge and tell us the results of the Charger Voltage at 100% SOC?

Rutrow 3 | April 16, 2019

I would presume that the software locked battery would be locked from charging to 100%, like at 90% maximum state of charge. That's what gets SR the faster charging to "full" advantage. Therefore... you can't "unlock" 10% more charge by paying the "+ price", because it isn't the bottom of the battery you're paying for. When you're empty, you're empty. :-(

EVolution | April 18, 2019

they said I took delivery of a unicorn at the Tesla store.

Is it on the Hot/Crazy matrix

jjgunn | April 18, 2019

That's good - resale value should be high

wiscy67 | April 20, 2019

A friend in San Diego called to inquire about the base 35K SR and was told it was no longer available and that the cheapest he could order is the SR+ at $39500.