I've had enough...

I've had enough...

Hello all,

I've been watching the (s)news lately and all they 'report' about are Teslas fires...

Just for fun, I typed ' car fire ' on YouTube. 5.4 MILLION posts. All gas cars.

Why don't the (s)news 'reporters' address these? Because they are sponsored by the Big Car Companies.

Could you imagine if the Big Car Companies stopped advertising on the (s)news? Then all there would be on the commercials is E.D., catheter, and Testosterone commercials...

Sorry, But I had to have a little fun. :-)


Malibu_Two | 19 novembre 2013

People are scared of new technology when it becomes mainstream. Hopefully Elon and his team will fix any issue they find and the world will get over it.

Funny how everyone cries for a recall when three Teslas catch fire, but in 100 years, ICE fires haven't been eliminated and are accepted as the norm. Double standard.

SPIDRMAN1 | 19 novembre 2013

from autoblog.


Official Tesla asks feds to investigate Model S fires, amends warranty to cover fire damage
By Jeremy Korzeniewski RSS feed Google+
Posted Nov 19th 2013 11:30AM
8130 Comments66

As of the last official count, there are 19,000 Tesla Model S sedans on US roads. Three of those, as has been widely reported, have caught on fire after significant accidents. That means one in about 6,333 Model S sedans has caught fire, and none of those fires led to any injuries. By way of contrast, there were 172,500 gasoline-car fires in the States last year, which, according to the National Fire Protection Association, equals about one in every 1,450 vehicles on US roads.

In a move we'd describe as very baller, Tesla has amended the warranty to cover damage due to a fire, even if due to driver error.
Put more simply, as stated by Elon Musk in his latest posting on the official Tesla Motors blog, "You are more than four and a half times more likely to experience a fire in a gasoline car than a Model S! Considering the odds in the absolute, you are more likely to be struck by lightning in your lifetime than experience even a non-injurious fire in a Tesla." While the assertion of dangerous lightning strikes may be just as spurious a correlation as those who claim the Model S is a burning inferno waiting to happen, the point is clear: You are quite unlikely to experience a fire in a Tesla Model S.

Still, Tesla has announced a new three-pronged approach to assuage Model S fire fears, the first of which is an over-the-air software update that will increase the car's ground clearance at highway speeds. This will hopefully make it less likely to impact debris on the road surface, which was the cause of two of three Model S fires.

Second, Tesla has "requested that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration conduct a full investigation as soon as possible into the fire incidents," according to Musk, who had previously said a there would "definitely" not be a recall. While a recall still seems highly unlikely, Musk says that "if something is discovered that would result in a material improvement in occupant fire safety, we will immediately apply that change to new cars and offer it as a free retrofit to all existing cars."

Finally, in a move we'd describe as very baller indeed, Tesla has amended the warranty of its Model S sedan to cover damage due to a fire, even if due to driver error. "Unless a Model S owner actively tries to destroy the car, they are covered," says Musk.

Feel free to read Musk's complete blog posting for all the details and commentary at the official Tesla Motors site.
News Source: Tesla Motors

ian | 19 novembre 2013

Here's a link to the blog post referenced above…

Well done Elon and Tesla!


carlgo | 19 novembre 2013

Editors print this because people are interested in Teslas. I have not seen one sentence from the news people trying to make the case that the cars are unsafe.

The news people use the "Tesla" word every time they can because people read those articles. Likewise, people read about Apple stuff, hence all the Apple articles. It is smart editing, not a vendetta.

It is when nobody is talking about you that you have to worry. Revel in the news. It makes Tesla a household word.

Now Musk has issued an angry response and it will make the news. This will go back and forth for awhile. Tesla will be even more scrutinized. Good.

I think most people on this forum would be surprised at how few people actually know much or anything about Tesla.

300k | 19 novembre 2013

Unless you all have not noticed, all the financial reporters on CNBC are sitting down when they bad mouth Tesla, that is because they are too stupid to talk and walk at the same time. Why check facts? There is no sensationalism to be broadcast if they did. Make me wonder who pays for all the mis-information, Chevy, Ford or ???. I wonder if anybody is actually honest in the broadcast media. And how stupid are the average joe consumer to believe all this crap

Brian H | 19 novembre 2013

So the hwy height raising is deliberate! Interesting.

Where did this word "baller" come from? Is he trying to say "ballsy" ?

olanmills | 19 novembre 2013

No, it means like awesome, impressive, show-offy.

Gas Killa | 21 novembre 2013

All this reminds me of the Ford ignition switch fires, except Ford received less media attention, their cars caught fire spontaneously, thousands of cars caught fire, then they had to recall almost 8 million cars (more should have been recalled). And they denied and covered up the problem the whole way. I remember all this because my neighbor's Ford Exploer caught fire while the car was off and she was in the driver's seat talking on the phone. Their car was conveniently left out of the recall, that didn't stop her car from spontaneously combusting 10 years after the recall.

Anyway Tesla is doing the right thing by getting out in front of this nonissue. Wake me up if a Tesla ever spontaneously combusts.

Car t man | 21 novembre 2013

Don't push it. I hope you do realize that in time, you will see a Tesla catch fire during charging (or the cable, wiring,.. burning down a house) and you
will see a Tesla spontaneously burn and you will see one catch a fire on
a super charger. These are unavoidable events. But they will be extremely rare.

But many view this too naively so it isn't wrong to prepare. It will happen.

Gas Killa | 21 novembre 2013

Car t man- What would make you assume that the scenarios you describe will ever happen AND would be the fault of a Tesla and not the EVSE?

It is widely known that a couple of Blink EVSEs have melted at the J1772 connection (I also believe there was an internal melting event) an this was the fault of the Blink equipment and not the vehicle. Additionally there are far more Nissan Leafs on the road than Teslas and as far as I know (and I read every electric car article I can find) there have been no fires associated with an Nissan Leaf. There are far more CHAdeMO fast chargers in the ground than Tesla super chargers and yet no fires have been reported with a CHAdeMO. Granted statistically speaking an electrical fire is possible with anything that uses electricity, but those fires are usually the result of faulty wiring or improper connections. "Spontaneous" electrical fires are the result of some fault, not just because something uses electricity. And btw if your Tesla happens to catch fire Elon has you covered. I don't know of any car company that says they will cover a fire under warranty. I can't think of ANY company that will cover a fire their product causes.

SPIDRMAN1 | 21 novembre 2013

I have personally seen a Nissan Leaf Connector malfunction. The customer tried to use an aftermarket charger. Because it was cheaper than the correct Nissan system. I doubt the Tesla customer will decide to use an aftermarket charger to 'save money'. I hope they are a little more intelligent than that.....


jamesd567 | 21 novembre 2013

I'd like to hear that upon reviewing the high standards of safety of the Tesla car against fires, that the NHTSA discovers/is forced to recognize, how low the standards are for gasoline car fire safety.

Tesla may just cause the NHTSA to issue a demand on the ICE makers to significantly boost their fire safety standards, which, IMHO, are probably based on 1950's technology (lets put it in the back, sam :-)

James D

alcassfast | 22 novembre 2013

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