CNBC sure seemed to begrudgingly reveal today’s news about 2019 deliveries. Had to return to their base. What a crock.
When the headline said BMW is no longer the ultimate driving machine I had my hopes up, but no--- its MB. In what world, and under what kind of benchmarks?
Both BMW and MB are the Ultimate Depreciation Machines.....
I have a friend that purchased a BMW Alpina 2 years used. Sticker on it when new was $125K and they paid $like 40K for it... Holy depreciation!
"BMW is facing an investigation from federal securities regulators in the U.S. seeking to determine whether the automaker manipulated sales figures."
Cheating, really, tell me more.........
Tesla is not immune from depreciation. A Model S P100D in 2016 was $160K. You can buy one now for $65K.
Even better. You can buy a 2020 MS P100D for $99,990
brand new that is
Most cars’ depreciations aren’t brought on by model price drops and major upgrades YOY. They mostly just fall apart.
“...a friend that purchased a BMW Alpina 2 years used. Sticker on it when new was $125K and they paid $like 40K for it... Holy depreciation!”
That a luxury car rebranded and marked up by a third party quickly depreciates isn’t particularly surprising.
BMW made some great cars a decade ago. I bought an e92 way back in 2008. It was a fantastic driving machine. Then time passes, you drive a Model 3 and realize how antiquated that car was. I hope BMW get's their game back, but high-tech computerized cars are not their thing. Good at mechanical design, but software & UI design, not so much.
A friend of mine bought a new BMW last year. I have not seen it - and so do not know the model. A couple of months ago he got a ride in my Model 3. A fairly nice ride, including a late night freeway stretch in a quite rural area of WVa that managed to hit about 130.
The longing was plain in his voice when he remarked "this is a really nice car".
You feel sorry for people like that, they bought a car that they cannot get rid off without taking a big hit. They probably bought something they desired for so long without realizing that their dream car got beat while they were dreaming about it.
A coworker is very proud of his (now elderly) BMW M3. I'm dying for him to challenge my M3
I once encountered a brand new m4. I only have a LR RWD. He was in front of me on a simple back road. When a car in front of him turned off the road, he tried to dust me. I stayed on his bumper with no problem. At a stop light he gave me a thumbs up. An AWD 3 should eat up an M3.
I've only got an SR+ but it sure is damned quick
A guy I know has a 10 cylinder BMW that is kind of rare. Think it's an M6 or M6 and is about 10 years old. He also has other cars and races some of them. I asked him how his BMW is doing the other day and he says to me, It's costing me a fortune to keep it running., you can have it if you want it. I declined since the annual maintenance and insurance is probably more than the car is worth.
Old thread that is still a good read.... From the before the times of hyper-sensitive fans (was there one?)
Apparently the Germans didn't get the memo.https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-killer-mercedes-benz-eqc-flops-germany
Owning both M3s (Tesla and BMW), BMW wins on fun factor, handling, braking, engagement. IMHO, of course.
Acceleration does not make the ultimate driving machine. My 3 is stupidly fast but not the same drive as a high end German sports sedan. The Model 3 is a cost effective EV and does a good job but it is not the same nor was it designed to be. Period. “Fan” away, but it does not change reality.
I've never driven a BMW M3, but I had a 430i hardtop rental for a brief while. Hideous machine, couldn't stand it. Awful turbo lag, ancient infotainment. Handled like a pig. Annoying ready-start feature that I never figured out how to disable. Swapped it for a Q5 after about a week, enjoyed the Q5 more than that beamer but still it didn't compare to a Tesla in any meaningful way. So, have I just not acquired the taste for fine German engineering, or is the 430i an abberation in the otherwise stupendous family of ultimate driving machines?
I expect my Model 3 to depreciate significantly later this year when Model Ys start being delivered, but so what? It's not going to make my car lose range or performance.
^^ y (I mean: why)
BMW lost it when the 2002 went out of production. However, I'll always be thankful for Michelin producing the X-AS for that chassis, because it made my Datsun 2000 perform like magic.
I have a VW Phaeton with the W-12. Parked since an air shock died. When it was healthy, that engine was a locomotive miracle.
Then a Model 3 showed me what a miracle truly is. I don't regret a mile in any of those others, though.