Nice review from Road and Track on the Performance Version

Nice review from Road and Track on the Performance Version

LarsT | 25 février 2013

"Beautiful, well-crafted, cool, and seriously fast, the Model S isn't just the most important car of the year. It's the most important car America has made in an entire lifetime."
That is awesome - and true! Well done!

sandman | 25 février 2013

"The Model S's power seats don't have a memory setting."

What version of firmware was this guy using?

sandman | 25 février 2013

"The huge panoramic sunroof can only be opened or closed via a submenu on the touch screen; we would much prefer a button."

This is something you can program to one of the two wheel buttons on the steering wheel. Either he's test driving an old firmware or he's not been trained to use all of the features.

GeekEV | 25 février 2013

Don't you also have to have the leather package to get the driver memory? Maybe there's didn't have it?

ir | 25 février 2013

The delivery orientation is just as integral to the Tesla Experience as the battery & motor. Unlike most customers (except where prohibited by law) it sounds like the reviewers just get a car dropped off. I learned about the scroll wheel controls during my orientation.

Many of the miunderstandings and problems in the press (eg. Broder) might have been avoided if they had the 1:1 orientation like real owners get.

Cindy.holland | 25 février 2013

And now for a review that is not going well according to Edmunds:

Electron | 25 février 2013

And here is the true fallout of the NYT article: nothing can ever publicly go wrong with a Tesla again without massive scrutiny, gotcha haha articles, etc.

No other car on the planet can live up to the expectations now set. Every Tesla must be perfect in every way or the company is perceived to be doomed.

I've never in my life owned a car that didn't have issues, some of them significant. But every one doesn't rate an investigation by countless print and web publications. Tesla is a political football now, so somehow it does.

sandman | 25 février 2013

@chris... agreed. Hearts, egos, and reputations are now on everyone's sleeves. what a shame. | 25 février 2013

"There is a special place in hell reserved for the engineer of those door handles" No good deed goes unpunished :o)

jk2014 | 25 février 2013

Chris -- reference to expectations ... That's the price of change at this magnitude. A lot is riding on our current energy consumption. A lot careers and money on the line if this EV experiment is successful.

mbcaffe | 25 février 2013


@geek ev
I thought all performance had memory seats. maybe he did not know about driver profiles.

I could not find a link to respond to the author.

bradslee | 25 février 2013

Very objective and fair review on MS. "The Model S isn't just the most important car of the year. It's the most important car America has made in an entire lifetime." MS is indeed a masterpiece of American innovation and vision of a true leader. Go Tesla!

sandman | 25 février 2013

All performance models come with leather unless cloth is requested. I have no idea why a demo performance model would have no leather and no power seats.

Brian H | 25 février 2013

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Brian H | 25 février 2013

I think he's missing a profile memory setting for the seats, not the power setting as such: " The Model S's power seats don't have a memory setting." I wonder what software release he was running.

Mark K | 25 février 2013

This kind of sums it up for me:

"the Tesla Model S competes on price with an Audi A7 or S7. It'd 
be impressive enough if those Audis 
were econoboxes, but they're not. They're among the finest cars in the world. And yet Tesla, on its first shot with barely a dress rehearsal, has built a car genuinely competitive with the best."

Amazing for a startup, amazing for an EV, and amazing for what it portends about the future of cars.

I think team Tesla needs to break out a few of those extra bottles of bubbly stashed after the Motor Trend award.

vgrinshpun | 25 février 2013

What excites me the most in Tesla Model S is that aside from initial price premium, extra performance within the line-up comes at zero cost, benefits of properly executed electric propulsion system. I think this is exactly what brought involuntary giddiness upon the Road and Track reviewer.

There is no other car on earth which could compete in performance with Audi A7, while costing 1/3 less per mile to operate than a Prius, and having cargo volume of a compact SUV.

"...the driving experience is an odd cognitive mash-up-somewhere between shouting Greenpeace-approved obscenities at Toyota Priuses and dusting Corvettes from stoplights on a cruise night."

Although they are at it for some time now, Tesla's challenge is to convey this message to population at large.

jk2014 | 25 février 2013

Vgrinshpun +1

Hit it right on the head, great comment...

Mark K | 25 février 2013


That's exactly it. The latent market potential is very high because this impossible combo of thrill and virtue is unprecedented. Most can't grasp it until they've driven it themselves.

jat | 25 février 2013

8-way cloth seats, ie those delivered before the price increase, do not have memory and you don't have driver profiles at all (even for the rest of the things that are saved in the profile).

Brian H | 25 février 2013

New owners: if each sells 3 Teslas per year, and each of those sells 3 Teslas per year, how long till the country is half EV?

nickjhowe | 25 février 2013

@Brian H: There are c. 250m cars in the US, and c. 16.7m new cars sold each year[1]. So assuming those numbers remain the same, and every new car were a Model S, then 8 years.

Or, with a start point of 5000 cars, and 3 per 3 per 3... 9 years. Though in the last year TM would need to make over c.50m cars.

The NUMMI plant built 8m cars a year in 5.5m sq ft of space[2], so TM will need six factories to build that many.

The only problem is that if it carries on incrementing then in less than five years after that they would have sold a model S to everyone on the planet (and have 1000 factories and would employ 10m people), and would reach the equivalent of the Shoe Event Horizon

So if we want to stop the human population mutating into birds we better not sell too many Model S's.

[I shouldn't contribute to this forum this late at night]

Nicu.Mihalache | 26 février 2013

@ nickjhowe

that was about 8M cars total, from 1984 to 2010; 6k / week works to 312k / year

Brian H | 26 février 2013

Actually, it quadruples each year (each owner adds 3 more). 7 years to reach 8M, 2 more years to 128M.

And that's why (Shoe Event) I cut off at "half". ;)

nickjhowe | 26 février 2013

@Nicu - I thought there was something wrong with the math. I said it was too late. Anyhoo - back to trying to add real value rather than whimsy.

Cattledog | 27 février 2013

It's a smashing review. These guys write about cars for a living, not oil or the environment. So does Motor Trend. I'll listen to them...