Nikola Tesla Dreams

Nikola Tesla Dreams

I understand that Elon Musk needs all the high end people to have capital to grow this company!

But just think if Nikola Tesla was here today whom you have taken his name and are representing it, He stood for all people all over the world putting up an antenna in there home and having free electricity, and because he wanted this big powers destroyed him.

So why haven't you made a electric model Car for the working class from the start. $16,000.00 to $20.000.00 this is what Nikola Tesla would of done, If he was alive today he would be shacking his head at you. and saying you got this backwards.

I Love this company and its Models, but i feel its for the rich and privilege, not the common people.
Hope you get a clue.

And no the working class and poor need it NOW, not 10 years from today or 2 years from now. Now is TODAY!

Rethink this Please!!

Vawlkus | 6 mars 2013

Ok, I'l flag the copies of this as spam, since it doesn't need to be anywhere but here.

On topic, Jerry, lookup the Tesla Secret Master Plan

cloroxbb | 6 mars 2013

It takes money to do what Tesla wanted to do. Thats probably why he was broke (especially after being employed by Edison).

Tesla could have done just that, but they wouldn't be here today, as that would have just bankrupted the company, and that would have been that.

TeslaRocks | 6 mars 2013

To Jerry I say patience my friend. Technology evolves at a crazy pace (last night I heard there are now computers that can repair themselves and are crash-proof), but nothing can be done instantly.

I do like the Tesla strategy a lot, and I hope that it will lead not just to mass-market electric cars that are practical, but also redefine the costs and benefits of automobile ownership, so that sooner or later owning a Tesla will be about as affordable as owning a high-end bicycle.

Brian H | 6 mars 2013

And why would he put his head in a shack?? Is that how you spell sack?

JrJerry | 6 mars 2013

So, in short, the master plan is:

Build sports car
Use that money to build an affordable car
Use that money to build an even more affordable car
While doing above, also provide zero emission electric power generation options

Don't tell anyone.

RanjitC | 6 mars 2013

Jerry buy a leaf.

ian | 6 mars 2013

I think he got the gist of the master plan. Not sure though.

JrJerry | 6 mars 2013

Its cool! They well get there.
No leaf for me i am sold on Tesla, just need it in my price range, just have to wait for it.

Timo | 6 mars 2013

You have to wait for a while for $16k car that is actually practical. I'm not sure Tesla will ever do that cheap cars even for it's "affordable car", it is high-end brand after all.

There are just real life limitations how cheap it can get. Batteries are expensive and will be expensive for quite a long time, it takes quite a bit of energy to move over ton of metal from point A to point B so in order to get practical range you need a big battery (capacity-wise).

However owning a BEV is cheaper than ICE. A lot cheaper if you drive a lot, so make a calculation how much higher car loan you can take with gas and maintenance difference, you get surprised. The so called Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) for BEV is much lower than similar ICE.

Take a look at this site:

Brian H | 6 mars 2013

Hard to say, Timo. As long as there's a big % of the population who will/must buy based on sticker price, there might have to be an entry in that range.

negarholger | 6 mars 2013

Daimler is a high-end brand catering to the few for 100+ years with the S-class type cars. 30-40 years a ago they made the C-class and now you can get the Smart Car, A-class, B-class... did their image suffer?
Building the image is first, then owners will be proud to drive a Tesla regardless of the price.

negarholger | 6 mars 2013

Jerry - Model S buyers pay for repaying the factory loans, building the service center network and the interstate charging station ( Super Chargers ). Once the basic infrastructure is in place future models will have less of a pricing burden for the infrastructure.

Brian H | 7 mars 2013

If TM is still growing, new capex burdens will have to be recovered.

lph | 7 mars 2013

Others are already saying this in different words. Teslas plan seems to be built on a similar concept as computers. Trickle down technology. Development costs can more easily masked in high priced vehicles and remain competetive. So they get built first. When lower cost vehicles are made, the margins are less. Hence the need for mass production. They come along later when the bugs are worked out.
It may not seem fair to have to wait, but think of it this way, the rich pay the development costs for you.

Timo | 7 mars 2013

I'm just saying that $16k practical and actually useful car just plain can't be made just yet:

some assumptions
a) 1500kg five adult passenger car
b) want at least 150 mile range

a + b = around 15kW power consumption at 60mph = 37.5kWh battery, lets make that even 40kWh

40kWh at $400/kWh (Tesla current price) = $16000

That leaves nothing for the car itself. Even halved (approx 10 years) it would still leave just $8000 for the rest of the car. If you want it to be your only car (as you probably want if you can't afford having two) you want it to be able to use SC network. That means you want it to have quite a bit over 200 mile actual range, which adds to cost of the battery. Also IMO car without capability of making road trips without extra planning is not really practical.

However, the cheaper BEV gets the bigger the TCO benefit gets too, so at $30k you are already looking at a car that actually pays itself back at maintenance and gas savings compared to $15k ICE car in very short time. Really fast if you live in EU and drive a lot.

henrycaihao | 7 mars 2013

Shame on you. Nikolas Tesla dream was to get free energy to everyone no matter poor or rich. He use scalar wave which has no energy loss during transmission. Every receiver could receive the same amount of electicity. This is the truth. People, let's wake up and seeking for the truth. If we continue use this kind of backward technology, it will never be able to get free energy device out.
free energy device is overunity. cop>1. output energy divided by input energy is greater than 1.
What to know more, search for vacuum energy, zero point energy, space-time energy,scalar wave.
All to one, one to all.

peterdobias | 7 mars 2013

Jerry, I appreciate your sentiment but I believe that. Elon would sell the car for less if he could. This is a good example how people think. They want cheap and matter what. Cheap would mean to build the car in China and make it as bad as all the junk taste comes from there with huge environmental costs.

It seems that you want to drive one of the best cars for the price of the worst cars. It doesn't work like that. Perhaps you should plan how to be able to afford Tesla. I do not think that the car is overpriced. It is on par with m5 BMW that costs around 100 k. You can get the base model Tesla for 50 k.

Sorry brother, the world just doesn't work the way you want it to be.. Have an idea, make a plan and buy Tesla if you want it..Otherwise, buy a leaf.

Ps: I have financed my Tesla S and consider it my sacrifice to be a responsibly acting consumer. I do not regret even though it is expensive. I want to support a company that stays true to its values.

FLsportscarenth... | 7 mars 2013

I think a brilliant guy like Nikola Tesla would really appreciate his theories and experiments put to use in the real world. He would likely understand what Elon was doing to make the world a better place and know the use of his name is the finest tribute he could receive over the decades of time gap. Besides if you think about it driving a 'Tesla' sounds a lot better than 'Muskmoble'... hehe

If I could create episodes of Doctor Who, I would make one one where the Doctor brings a discouraged Nicola at a critical point forward to a decade or so from now to see Teslas as a common sight on the roads and meet Elon (both would likely be thrilled - wonder if Elon is a Doctor Who fan?)... Episodes have been done like that (Vincent and the Doctor - Tenth Doctor, Vincent Van Gogh and Timelash - Sixth Doctor, H. G. Wells) that are not only good stories but make us think.

JrJerry | 7 mars 2013

TO ALL,THANKS FOR THE ALL YOUR INFO: Just going to take my time and get what i want, not going to settle for something inferior.

Well has any one heard what the next model is going to be,we have the Roadster S. X. Models, i heard it is a low base model any info on this, is there a prototype out there , any Pics.

What model do you think is coming next, any pics out there, or info on this?

ian | 7 mars 2013

The Gen III (aka Bluestar, small sedan) is coming after the X if Tesla Motors is still around. I certainly hope so. No pictures or prototypes out there yet that anyone has seen. I would guess the "skateboard" is still in development.

We would all like them to come sooner rather than later but Tesla is still so small that it is walking a financial tight rope. They need to become a profitable, stable company before they throw too much money into the development of the Gen III.

JrJerry | 7 mars 2013

Tesla BlueStar
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The Tesla BlueStar is the proposed third generation electric car to be manufactured by Tesla Motors, with a production goal of 2015.[1] Tesla intends the car to have a price of around US$30,000.[2][3] Technology from Tesla's Model S line may also make its way into the BlueStar line. [4] "It would be quite similar to the Model S but scaled down."[5] Although the Model S is generally a standard looking car, the third generation vehicle will have more distinctive style. [6]

The company had plans for the BlueStar as part of its trickle-down strategy, where the battery and electric drivetrain technology would be developed and paid for through sales of the Tesla Roadster and Tesla Model S vehicles.[7][8] The BlueStar line is being co-developed with the Model X, an SUV variant of the Model S.

^ Musk, Elon (2012-02-10). "New Tesla Roadster Delayed 'Til 2015; Gen 3 EV Next". Retrieved 2012-12-24.

JrJerry | 7 mars 2013

Is this 400-mile electric car battery for real?

Whenever a little-known company suddenly announces they’ve developed a potentially revolutionary technology that’s way more advanced than anything else out there, skeptics are going to be, well, even more skeptical.

This is the currently the case in the ongoing saga involving the German tech firm DBM Energy. While it’s not like they’ve figured out a way to enable cars to fly (although there’s a company trying to do that too), the company did claim to have produced a battery that allows electric vehicles to go 400 miles on a single charge, which, by the way, would be a world record.

Currently, the in-house produced battery for Tesla’s Roadster offers a range of 245 miles, the longest range of any electric vehicle in production.

For good measure, DBM says that their Kolibri alpha-polymer battery also happens to be two-thirds the weight of Tesla’s battery pack, costs as little as $1,100 dollars to manufacture and features enough charge cycles to last a decade. And, get this, it can be recharged in mere minutes.

These claims were initially made back in October after the company reportedly squeezed 375 miles out of a Kolibri-powered Audi A2 during a trip from Munich to Berlin. The vehicle, which averaged an impressive 55 miles per hour while only using up 80 percent of the battery’s energy capacity, was also put through a battery (pun intended) of third-party performance tests to verify the results.

But then, things got a little hairy. Jim Motavalli over at our sister site BNET breaks down what transpired afterward that have led some to cast doubt over the company’s claims.

ghillair | 8 mars 2013


That article is from April 2011, two years ago, if there is anything to it where are the more recent announcements?

Are they taking orders?
How much does it cost?
When will they be delivered?

Looks like more vaporware!

JrJerry | 9 mars 2013

Nikola Tesla was born in Croatia (then part of Austria-Hungary) on July 9, 1856, and died January 7, 1943. He was the electrical engineer who invented the AC (alternating current) induction motor, which made the universal transmission and distribution of electricity possible. Tesla began his studies in physics and mathematics at Graz Polytechnic, and then took philosophy at the University of Prague. He worked as an electrical engineer in Budapest, Hungary, and subsequently in France and Germany. In 1888 his discovery that a magnetic field could be made to rotate if two coils at right angles are supplied with AC current 90� out of phase made possible the invention of the AC induction motor. The major advantage of this motor being its brush less operation, which many at the time believed impossible.

Tesla moved to the United States in 1884, where he worked for Thomas Edison who quickly became a rival Edison being an advocate of the inferior DC power transmission system. During this time, Tesla was commissioned with the design of the AC generators installed at Niagara Falls. George Westinghouse purchased the patents to his induction motor, and made it the basis of the Westinghouse power system which still underlies the modern electrical power industry today. He also did notable research on high-voltage electricity and wireless communication; at one point creating an earthquake which shook the ground for several miles around his New York laboratory. He also devised a system which anticipated worldwide wireless communications, fax machines, radar, radio- guided missiles and aircraft.

Nikola Tesla is the true unsung prophet of the electronic age; without whom our radio, auto ignition, telephone, alternating current power generation and transmission, radio and television would all have been impossible. Yet his life and times have vanished largely from public access. This autobiography is released to remedy this situation.

JrJerry | 9 mars 2013

Great Video: Tesla's Little Secret
Informative exchange in the comments.
You might not like the Music


JrJerry | 9 mars 2013

My Inventions: The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla
Chapter 6—The Magnifying Transmitter


alcassfast | 9 mars 2013

Did anyone hear of Nikola Tesla's electric car?

JrJerry | 9 mars 2013

alcassfast Did anyone hear of Nikola Tesla's electric car?


Nikola Tesla 1st Electric Car in 1918 That Regenerate Electricity from the Earth


JrJerry | 9 mars 2013

alcassfast Did anyone hear of Nikola Tesla's electric car?



Timo | 10 mars 2013

Many touchpads don't appreciate kicking, you know. Touching is enough.