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Petition to create high-speed charge stations every 50 miles on Interstate Highway

Petition to create high-speed charge stations every 50 miles on Interstate Highway

Someone started a petition on WhiteHouse.gov to create high-speed charge stations every 50 miles on Interstate Highway. 100,000 signatures would warrant an official response from the White House.

Having an strong charging infrastructure that charges electric vehicles has benefit well beyond electric vehicles. Charge stations and gas stations essentially are energy storage and delivery hub. The charge stations can utilize solar/wind power, on-site generation, or storing grid power during off-peak hours. In the event of disaster, these stations can have the potential feed back to the grid if we have smart grids. I see the effort of building high-speed charge stations would have a domino impacts of building smart grids, distributed power generation, hence the nation's power infrastructure would become more efficient and more resilient to natural disaster and disruptions.

To sign the petition, follow this link
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/create-fast-charging-network-w...

Timo | 4 août 2013

I think 50 miles is too dense, unless you want city cars to become common annoyance in charging stations. Something like 150 miles would be better.

up north | 4 août 2013

I agree with 150 and a car that would go 350 miles on a charge at 75 mph with air on.

ian t.wa.us | 4 août 2013

I think 50 miles is reasonable. If your car can go 250+ that gives you options as to which station at which you chose to stop. If you find one full you can always go to the next one. Yes the current range limited options like the Leaf will now be able to travel further but they'll still have to stop to charge much more frequently so that in itself is a deterrent.

Cheers!

carlgo | 5 août 2013

Teslas have a full-speed range of less than 300 miles. If stations are 150 miles apart, you have to stop at each one as you cannot expect to make it to a station 300 miles down the road.

Stations 50 miles apart will allow drivers to skip chargers until the battery is getting low, similar to ICE driving.

You might go to the 5th station down the road, at 250 miles, and therefore get an additional 100 miles of real world driving.

If recharge stations get installed every 25 miles, then you can squeeze out even more miles and fewer stops.

If rechargers end up being everywhere, like gas stations, then real-world range is even more effectively extended. And so is is flexibility as you could then take spontaneous side trips or to take the scenic route without logistical planning, drafting gasoline tankers at 45mph, etc.

Tesla cannot be expected to build more than the planned spaced-out free Superchargers. It is a good start for their business, but to have fast charging/swapping everywhere will require partnerships and/or profitability.

It is not realistic to expect that the government will build Tesla-spec rechargers. Some localities have those public chargers, and these could spread, but they are sooooo slowwwww that they are nearly worthless.

I think the half-hour half-charge is the absolute slowest system the potential electric car buying public will put up with and even at that they will have to be located conveniently everywhere in order to really sell the technology.

carlgo | 5 août 2013

So, goneskilan is right! Sorry, I didn't work that into the post above as intended.

Timo | 5 août 2013

Meet me half-way: 100 miles. That removes annoying city cars from equation but allows no compromise real EV:s to have full potential.

BobtheV | 5 août 2013

I would be more in favor of superchargers on US Highways (pre-interstate interstates). For example, I am in Oregon and would love to see one in Redmond or Bend and also one in Klamath Falls. Tesla is doing this in some areas, apparently some are going in along highway 395 in California.

BobtheV

Brian H | 5 août 2013

Well, sure, 500 SCs in the US/Can would be great. In the meantime, 200 will do fairly well.

ian t.wa.us | 5 août 2013

Funny how I can agree with carlgo in this thread but couldn't in another. ;-)

negarholger | 5 août 2013

I envision the following for the first 200
- 50 miles outside urban centers along major highways . That way you can go into the city do your business an get out back to the SC. Like Gilroy... 50 miles from Bay Area center e.g Menlo Park, but it gets tight if you want to go to SF and back. Or like Darien to NY.
- 100 - 130 miles on highways... 60 kWh MS and shorter range MX need to be supported.
- key stations will get twins like Darien/Milford and Gilroy/Salinas

If that is done by YE 2015 then TM has about 2 more years to strengthen the network for the Gen3 arrival, so by 2017 I would expect 400-500 SC
- adding flexibility... e.g. I5 and 58 intersection for the Bay Area / Sacramento to LV travel
- twins maybe become tripplets
-...

By YE 2015 we have about 150k Tesla cars on the road : 150k cars divided by 200 SC is 750 cars per SC
ICE : 200M cars divided by 120k gas stations = 1500 ICE cars per gas station.