Q1 Gain, Super(charger) Pain

Q1 Gain, Super(charger) Pain

I am impressed that Tesla has achieved profitability in Q1 FY2013, however I am deeply concerned that Tesla is trading the near term financial gain of to that Q1,2013profitability against the long term stability from an extensive Tesla Supercharger network. Perhaps it is my unreasonable range anxiety, but I know that I'm not buying my Model S until the Tesla Supercharger network starts to make real geographic diversification progress.

riceuguy | 6 avril 2013

Elon has said a major supercharger announcement is coming within the next 4 weeks, and I am hearing rumors of as many as 10 here in Texas by end of year...

george210 | 6 avril 2013

Thank you riceuguy, I will be anxiously awaiting Tesla's "major supercharger announcement". When/where did Elon talk about this?

Jolinar | 6 avril 2013

He was talking about it after financing was released... He also said there will be announcement about new upgraded service and one more mystery (he really used this word) anouncement.

negarholger | 6 avril 2013

here is the link... SC is mentioned at the end of the interview.

george210 | 6 avril 2013

Thank you Kleist, ah yes at 8:20 in the video he talks about very good supercharging news coming up.

mwojcie | 6 avril 2013

I'm just curious - I've had my MS P85 for a month - 1,400+ miles - and I drive it every day all over and never needed to charge it anywhere but in my garage. Why is everyone so stressed out about supercharges???? How many long range trips do people take on a regular basis?? Get the recargo app for your phone and you will see just how many public charging stations there are all over. Have some patience - supercharges are coming! Do you have clue as to just how expensive these things are.

diegoPasadena | 6 avril 2013

"Supercharger pain" is a theoretical stress which - if ever present at all - completely disappears after you've had the car in your regular day-to-day for a while. Here's why:

How many road trips have you taken over the last ten years? If your answer is "10", then perhaps the Model S is not for you. More likely, though, the answer will be one or two, or none. With that reality, it's easy to understand that it is the "sense of freedom to go anywhere anytime" that we fear losing when we think of EVs, but in reality, the impact on our lives is small or non-existent.

What is real is the day-to-day. No buying gas. No planning additional time spent twiddling your thumbs standing at the pump. No smog checks. Enjoying the almost oxymoronic silky-smooth acceleration driven by that brute power that is always available. Need I continue? You just get in your car and drive wherever you want and at the end of the day you spend the ten seconds it takes to plug the car in. The next day, the cycle is ready to start again without you giving it a second thought.

Superchargers are a *great* bonus, but in my view a bonus nonetheless - as in "something I don't get with ICEs". So far I've been to one once - just to see how it works. I am, in fact, considering a road trip for the first time in a long time *because* they exist. Not because it's free (although that's certainly very pleasant), but because it is an experience unlike what I've known. Once the corridor between West coast and East coast is activated, I want to take that trip. I would *never* have considered doing that again (after having driven cross country a few times in my twenties).

So arguably, my horizon has expanded, rather than contracted.

Brian H | 6 avril 2013

actually, they're dirt cheap. $250,000 for a full station. Small change in the marketing budget. The delays are entirely external-bureaucratic.

george210 | 6 avril 2013

I also think that a MS-P85 offers more than enough range. My wife just has an unreasonable range anxiety and refuses to get a Tesla now because of that.
I think that having many Superchargers available will eliminate that unreasonable anxiety.

July10Models | 6 avril 2013

Drove from NYC to Philly and used the car quite a bit while in Philly. Since I was staying overnight, I charged at a level 2 station that was 0.5 miles from the hotel. It was the longest walk since it was late at night and I was tired. The hotel had a shuttle which I should have used in retrospect. The next morning I decided to skip the shuttle again and walked to the car. The amazing thing was, I drove 400 miles often at excessive highway speeds and completed all my business in Philly having spent $0 in fuel cost because the charging station was free. The Model S is a terrific road trip car. I will drive it to places that I would have otherwise fly to before.

riceuguy | 6 avril 2013

As an about-to-be owner of a 60, I make a number of trips between Austin and Houston, Dallas, Waco, and San Antonio, all of which are nearly impossible to do as day trips without a supercharger. I am perfectly happy to take my wife's ICE for those trips but would rather not! I certainly don't need a supercharger for in-town driving, but in Texas, a 3 hour drive isn't a road isn't even out of state!

negarholger | 7 avril 2013

@riceguy - longest distance in TX is about the same as half way through CA ( north - south ). TX is big, CA is tall.

DFibRL8R | 7 avril 2013

After you get you model S you will probably no longer be perfectly happy taking your wife's ICE. Even exceptionally nice ICE vehicles are a step down from the S IMO

nickjhowe | 7 avril 2013

@riceuguy - I was about to say exactly the same thing as @DFibRL8R. Once you get the S you'll be cursing until the TX Superchargers come on line.