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Tesla wants 5-6K for parking sensors!!

Tesla wants 5-6K for parking sensors!!

Has anyone got a quote yet for a retro-fit for their parking sensors? After calling customer service and finding out it will cost 5K for a retrofit, who is going to do it??
It is only $500 to order it now...
I understand there needs to be some things done for a retrofit, but kind of outrageous at this price point.

riceuguy | 10 avril 2014

Not really...as someone with an older VIN, I understand that they'd have to replace my bumpers (and what can they really do with the old ones?!), and the wiring, the sensors, etc. On the new ones, it's just adding the sensors during production. I would love to have them, but I was an early buyer and understood it probably wouldn't be an easy retrofit. That said, how many car makers would let you add folding mirrors, parking sensors, etc. after the fact at any price?

NO2PTRL | 10 avril 2014

Wow, that does sound steep.
Sales made it sound effortless to upgrade your car when new features come along.

I guess buyers should make sure they get the features they want upon purchase. Would love 4WD but at some point we have to order our technology and not look back, otherwise I would still be holding out for the iPhone 10.

Car t man | 11 avril 2014

Aftermarket parking sensors are what, 100$?
They can be fitted into existing bumpers
with ease and wired to their own visual
indicators in cabin and probably wit
the work and everything for under
300$... So why fret. You go for
a sound option. At that price,
Tesla just isn't offering one.

chrisdl | 11 avril 2014

Our good friend at TeslaTap.com has you covered (partially, at least):
http://teslatap.com/modifications/parking-assist-installation/

JenAlJill13 | 11 avril 2014

They are worth it at $500, but not a penny more. They alert you of trees and walls but do nothing for high curbs which is where the real problem is given the Model S's length and low bottom.

CalabasasKid | 11 avril 2014

We didn't pay just $500 to get the sensors. Anyone who ordered the sensors paid on average an extra $1500 more for their car comparably equipped to a car before last August 3rd. Trust me, I know. I had a pending order placed and held off until Aug 3rd when the sensors were added to the configurator on line only to discover that the car was now more expensive due to the changes in prices for various other options and packages.

NKYTA | 11 avril 2014

JenAlJill13, I completely agree. I thought they'd be helpful squeezing into my tight garage and really wanted to retrofit, but I've gotten used the the rear camera/mirrors (for curbs) and now have a better sense where the front of the car is. In fact having them constantly go off pulling into the garage might drive me nuts. ;-)

Captain_Zap | 11 avril 2014

I drove a loaner with parking sensors. I don't go to places where I have to parallel park, so they didn't add value for me.

In parallel parking situations I am more worried about the other guy, so I just pay extra for better parking or go elsewhere.

I saw a jacked up 4WD truck smash up two cars for kicks while parallel parking in town. He hopped out and giggled. I had daggers coming from my eyes and a note pad was quickly in hand.

Mathew98 | 11 avril 2014

@NKYTA - I had a loaner with the parking sensor for a week. It was lighting up like a Christmas tree and with the constant ding, ding, ding sound every time I pull into my tight garage. It created more distractions than helping me. I was nuttier than my natural state.

The power folding mirror feature is nice. It works wonder to fold them in while pulling into the garage. However, the mirrors auto open every time I reverse out of the cramped garage. If I forget to fold the mirrors before backing out, I would need replacement mirrors every few weeks.

Sometimes these extra features are more trouble than they're worth.

If you had these features with other cars then go for it. If you've been driving for a few decades without them, then you haven't missed much.

NKYTA | 11 avril 2014

Matthew, I was nuttier than my natural state., I thought you were already at "nuttiest"? ;-)

Thanks for the confirmation - I don't want Christmas lights when parking.
BTW, I don't have the power folding mirrors either. One previous poster suggested leaving both mirrors out as a guide (I used to manually pull in the driver's side mirror) - I've found that works quite well.

NO2PTRL | 11 avril 2014

They are great for straight in front of you or straight behind. When coming in the garage I stop when they say stop. They work perfectly for that.
However, when they say stop for the sides, you still have much room to go.

So for $500 they are so so, but I would still get them.

For $5000...*&^$^%$#^&^_(&

Mathew98 | 11 avril 2014

@NKYTA - Only the da wife can turn me to the nuttiest state!

Sometimes she love them nuts but most of the time she can do without them nuts!

PS. I'll be making special appearances with Mystique and Aura every evening this week at "Lipstick". Wiki those two with Yankees if you need help deciphering the message.

danej | 11 avril 2014

I shopped aftermarket sensors professionally installed and got pricing of around $2400. They wouldn't have been integrated, and the display would be above the mirror, looked a bit tacky.

Tesla did a retrofit for me for $3000. I figured the extra $600 was worth it for full integration. My car did have the wiring harness, and I opted to have my existing bumpers drilled rather than replaced, so that's why it's a lower cost than the OP.

As for "worth it", I'm mixed on that. While distracted (and complacent due to all other vehicles having sensors), I did back the Tesla into one of my other cars, and the fixes to the two cost about $2000, so if this saves a bump like that, it'll be worth something.

But I do have a complaint: If the music is at a nice volume, I can't even hear the sensor pings. In other autos, the music is lowered when the sensors kick in, but Tesla hasn't done that. As a result, I fear I'll become used to the sensors, not hear them and bump something.

Please refrain from comments about my driving, how you are a superman, never had a single accident in your life, etc.

NKYTA | 11 avril 2014

@Matthew, I thought it was replaced by "Down and Out" these days?

Go Giants! ;-p

hsadler | 11 avril 2014

Folding mirrors in when garaging is good but be aware that the rear fenders are only an inch or so from being equal to the mirrors (width wise). So leaving them out is a good warning of closeness.

NKYTA | 11 avril 2014

Perhaps I got that tip from you a year ago, @hsadler. If so, much appreciated!

GeekEV | 11 avril 2014

@Sterlingllc1 - ...new SOFTWARE features. Hardware is a different story!

Webcrawler | 11 avril 2014

I would definitely order them again. Having the car tell you how far it is from the wall in the garage is a nice feature...

hsadler | 11 avril 2014

@NKYTA

Wasn't me - I read it here also, but couldn't credit the original - but thanks for the thought.

I remember going out right away to verify - and it's true.

Brian H | 13 avril 2014

Only space pilots in 2001 Space Odyssey needed accompaniment for docking. Ambient works best Earthside.

Alex K | 13 avril 2014

@danej | APRIL 11, 2014: Tesla did a retrofit for me for $3000. I figured the extra $600 was worth it for full integration. My car did have the wiring harness, and I opted to have my existing bumpers drilled rather than replaced, so that's why it's a lower cost than the OP.

Did Tesla do the drilling of the bumpers or was this sent out to a body shop? If you could show us the cost breakdown of the job, it would be appreciated.

danej | 14 avril 2014

@Alex K, here's my part and labor break-down. As a reminder, my vehicle was produced with the wiring hardness already in place, so my costs are the lowest possible. Vehicles without the necessary harness would be more expensive to retrofit.

I believe the full installation was done by the Tesla service center staff. The term at the San Rafael have been great to work with for the year (and 11,600 miles) that I have owned the car.

My only complaint about the sensors is that the park distance sensor when engaged does not lower or mute the music, so I can't hear the beeping with the sound system turned up to a moderate to high level. Fingers crossed for a fix in a future software update. They lower the audio when you open a door, so I'd imagine it's possible.

Sales Inquiry: Parking sensor retrofit
Customer request Parking sensor retrofit
Installed parking sensors. Tested ok.
Part Qty Unit Price
ECU, PARK ASSIST (1014386-00-A) 1 214.50 214.50
BRACKET, PARK ASSIST/BLINDSPOT ECU(1008903-00-B) 1 9.52 9.52
S10/S11 RETAINERS Park Assist Rr Fascia(1014393-00-B)2 3.68 7.36
S2/S5 RETAINERS (Park Assist Fnt Fascia)(1014392-00-B)2 4.64 9.28
S8/S9 RETAINERS Park Assist-Rear Fascia(1014394-00-B)2 3.68 7.36
S3/S4 RETAINERS Park Assist-Frnt Fascia(1023808-00-A)2 5.12 10.24
NUT,t5,HF,PLASTIC,THREADED (1013805-00-A)3 0.90 2.70
RVT PUSH-PULL 8X18X20.0 (1006521-00-A) 3 2.16 6.48
ASY,HRN,BUMPER,FR,MDLS,PK ONLY (1004420-03-H)1 98.40 98.40
ASY,HARN,BUMPER,RR,MDLS,PK ONLY (1004421-03-H)1 58.92 58.92
SENSOR,PARK ASSIST-Unpainted (1014388-00-A)8 98.50 788.00
RETAINER RING, DECOUPLING, CLEAR (1014395-00-A)2 0.72 1.44
RETAINER RING, DECOUPLING, CLEAR (1014395-00-A)6 0.72 4.32
Total-Part 1,218.52
Labor: 7.30 @ 175.00 = 1,277.50
Total: 2,496.02

Mathew98 | 14 avril 2014

Labor rate at the rock bottom price of $175 / hour. Nice!

Car t man | 14 avril 2014

Non profit rates..

Bighorn | 14 avril 2014

When someone's insurance would only cover $45/hr labor rates, I was wondering what century we were in.

Mathew98 | 14 avril 2014

Horse drawn carriages aren't all that expensive to fix up...

Alex K | 14 avril 2014

@danej | APRIL 14, 2014: @Alex K, here's my part and labor break-down. As a reminder, my vehicle was produced with the wiring hardness already in place, so my costs are the lowest possible. Vehicles without the necessary harness would be more expensive to retrofit.

Thanks for the info. I have an earlier production car (12/31/2012), so I don't have the wiring harness. I probably don't have the proper bumper markings for drilling. I have contacted my service center (Scottsdale) to find out about a retrofit. But someone else had attempted to do a retrofit before the official availability and they were stuck at the wiring harness part.

AmpedRealtor | 14 avril 2014

I don't think that just getting parking sensors for this much money is worth the effort or the price that is being paid. I'm saving my money and hoping for a retrofit when they come out with adaptive cruise control, and who knows what else. Maybe they'll figure out a way to do more with a single set of sensors, that way I only have to retrofit once.

TeslaTap.com | 14 avril 2014

@Alex K - As for reference, my nose cone had the locations for the sensors, as well as the steel bumper behind it had the cutouts for the two sensors. Pick up was in 1/20/13, so it's not that much newer than yours. My guess is anyone that got the newer style nose cone has the sensor locations molded in the nose cone. I didn't check the painted bumpers.

Having them marked made installing my own parking sensors a lot easier. Not as nice as Tesla's parking assist, but there was no other option at the time.

gpsilberman | 14 avril 2014

It is nice to have the option to upgrade. I would have purchased if available at the time but I figured the three grand saved can go towards the next Tesla.

What I was surprised about was to hear that they could upgrade a regular 85 to a P85 or P85+. The quote was silly (I could sell my car and buy a brand new one for less).

Not for me, though it is nice to have the option.

info | 14 avril 2014

@gpsilberman: who told you that an S could become a P? I've inquired in the past and was told that it wasn't in the cards. Maybe things have changed.

Doogerman | 14 avril 2014

Any idea why some service centers will do the retrofit and others won't. My SC (White Plains NY) told me that they haven't heard anything about a parking sensor retrofit from HQ and so they're not able to do it for me.....

JonathanL | 14 avril 2014

The parking sensors are fine, I would pay the $500 again. However, these are not active parking sensors that will stop the car if it senses immediate impact with something. I was backing out of the garage the other day, the kids were fighting, I had the radio blasting and my wife had parked the ICE in a location perpendicular to the garage. I just missed smacking into it, not thanks to the sensors, but because I glanced at the backup camera view at the last second.

Alex K | 15 avril 2014

@TeslaTap.com | APRIL 14, 2014: @Alex K - As for reference, my nose cone had the locations for the sensors, as well as the steel bumper behind it had the cutouts for the two sensors. Pick up was in 1/20/13, so it's not that much newer than yours. My guess is anyone that got the newer style nose cone has the sensor locations molded in the nose cone. I didn't check the painted bumpers.

Yes, my nose cone has the sensor location markings (as well as the cutout in the bumper). But my Service Center told me that they would have to order New bumper skins and a new nose cone, with the parking sensor holes already cut out ($900+$900+$450) - not including repainting. Other than that, the parts list is pretty much the same as above. They were not willing to cut the sensor holes, even after they called San Rafael SC to find out what they had done. They told me that these were policies instituted by corporate, but that they seem to be in constant flux. I was lead to believe that if I drove in with my car and had the holes already in the right places, they would do the rest of the work. My only concern is that the new bumper skins may have some kind of reenforced molding where the sensors go.

AmpedRealtor | 15 avril 2014

Doesn't Tesla have a bunch of pre-drilled bumpers sitting on a shelf somewhere in their assembly plant in Fremont? Why can't they just grab a pair, box them up, and ship them out? I don't understand why that has to be such a costly affair.

Alex K | 15 avril 2014

@AmpedRealtor | APRIL 15, 2014 NEW: Doesn't Tesla have a bunch of pre-drilled bumpers sitting on a shelf somewhere in their assembly plant in Fremont? Why can't they just grab a pair, box them up, and ship them out? I don't understand why that has to be such a costly affair.

Yes, they do. That is what they provide for $900+$900+$450.

SteveWong | 27 avril 2014

@danej: can you tell us what your VIN is so we get an idea about cars with pre existing wiring?

I'm excited to see there's at least one service center willing to drill the holes and use the other parts: this saves over $2000 on an already too-expensive retrofit. I'm hoping that since another SC did it, mine can go ahead, too!

J.T. | 27 avril 2014

@JohnathanL I just missed smacking into it, not thanks to the sensors, but because I glanced at the backup camera view at the last second.

Good Safety Tip: Glance behind you while driving in reverse.

tes-s | 27 avril 2014

Simple solution: don't buy them.

They replace the bumpers as part of the retrofit.

sule | 27 avril 2014

I will try to bring some light into this. Will be a bit long, but should be helpful.

When I was ordering my S I wanted parking sensors because I was anxious about my small garage... but I did not want to get the whole tech pack. I asked Tesla store staff many times about just getting parking sensors (would have paid more than their listed price). They even spoke to Fremont... and I spoke to Fremont as well on the subject. The point is that that they made the "wiring harness" a part of the tech pack and as a single piece. Without this wiring harness, even if they put the sensors, they would not be connected to the central system - it (re)uses the same and not a separate wiring. Do note that this connects to the central system/screen unlike the after-market solutions.

So, to retrofit parking sensors they arguably need:

  1. The sensors themselves.
  2. The bumpers on which to mount the sensors
  3. The wiring harness that otherwise belongs to the tech pack
  4. ... to replace the existing harness with the new one or add the new one into place and that may be hard depending on how accessible it is
  5. ... to connect the harness to the sensors and the system.

Aftermarket ones are simpler to install:

  • Existing bumpers are used, just drilled or sensors are stuck on them somehow... or licence plate sensors used...
  • Not connected to the central system - no wiring harness needed to be routed through the entire car.

In other words, it is less work and less materials with some disadvantages:

  • Separate system, not integrated into the main UI
  • Modifying the car, possibly voiding warranty
  • May require own power source

That said, I had a loaner a few days ago that has a tech pack. I tried parking it into my garage and as someone mentioned, it lit up and went crazy even before I entered the garage. Was not helpful AT ALL for that. I use the backup camera and mirrors as my guides. If only guidelines were to show overlaid on the backup camera image that would have been perfect. I actually made a transparency (to be placed over the screen) with guidelines I made myself initially but once I've done that I've learned to live without it.

What I do miss is the *front* parking sensors, to avoid going over the curb. Essentially it is safer for me to back up into a parking space then go forward into it. But you get a feel for that too ... when you can see the curb (not obstructed by nearby cars).

So, while I was originally contemplating getting the tech pack *solely* to be able to get the parking sensors (and that would have cost $5K anyway), I am now fully content with my decision not to get either. Your mileage may vary.

AmpedRealtor | 27 avril 2014

I've read that the parking sensors are annoying and with many false alarms. I'm glad I don't have them, actually. And if I'm ever going to spend $5,000-$6,000 on any after market anything for my car, it's going to be when Tesla announces adaptive cruise and other, more safety oriented features.

TeslaTap.com | 27 avril 2014

Most cars above VIN 12142 have the wiring harness. Here's the latest info I was able to gather from Tesla: http://teslatap.com/modifications/parking-sensors-retrofit/

Roamer@AZ USA | 27 avril 2014

I have parking sensors on my November delivery and love how they work. They work great for curbs. When the display reaches 26 inches stop and you are inches from the curb. Interesting that it reads out in inches rather than just a picture and a beeper.

I added sensors to our March 2013 car thru a multi step project.

Step one wife damages front bumper requiring replacement.
Step two pay the body shop to replace the front and rear bumper with sensor bumpers ordered as repair parts.
Step three wait three months for Tesla to release approved retrofit and finish the install.

To be honest I have no idea what the total cost was since it was done as two different steps at different times and combined with other work.

Final step happy wife that is less likely to damage the bumper making me a happy husband.

AmpedRealtor | 27 avril 2014

Others have reported that parking sensors are of no help on curbs. Roamer, how do you get your sensors to detect curbs? If they detected curbs, that would be helpful to me, but I didn't think they could do that.

sule | 27 avril 2014

@TeslaTap.com re "Most cars above VIN 12142 have the wiring harness."

I ordered mine end of Dec 2013. VIN 327xx. I wanted parking sensors without the tech pack, as I noted above, and was told that I can't have them without the wiring harness that is a part of the tech pack.

While "most cars" may indeed have the tech pack, it is not a VIN that drives this (any more).

TeslaTap.com | 27 avril 2014

@sule - Thanks! I've updated the notes that Tech Package is required for the retrofit.

scourge | 27 avril 2014

So there goes their statement that they don't make money on service. When you order the car new they sell you parking sensors for $500. I think it's safe to say they are not doing this "below cost". Even if we assume that the cost of "labor" or work going into doing parking sensors at the factory is essentially zero and the entire cost of the package is simply parking sensors + the ecu for them we can see that service charges you $998 for those same parts (Again not even bringing in labor into the conversation)-- That's a healthy 100% markup.

sule | 27 avril 2014

@scourge: they are in business of making money - they have to live too.

Also you have to read the details to understand where the prices are coming from. Retrofitting what is needed but not done at the factory is complex. Could it be done cheaper? Certainly. Would I like them be cheaper? Sure I would, heck I'd take them as a gift! But things in this world are sold for what they can be sold for, to make money. All is good.

scourge | 27 avril 2014

@sule: No problem with them making money except of course when Elon comes out and says that he feels it's wrong for other car companies to charge for service and maintenance and that tesla will be different. I suppose you can argue that a retrofit like this this is neither service nor maintenance but its pretty clear cut for me personally. You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

And yes I have read the details and I understand the complexities. They have charged more then double for the additional parts here as opposed to what it costs to do the same at the factory. As I mentioned in the post I'm not even brining the labor into the equation.

Mathew98 | 28 avril 2014

@scourge - Maintenance and regular service would be run as profit neutral.

No one claimed that all after market upgrades shouldn't be profit oriented. The labor rate is $175/hr. So an 8 hour retrofit would run a healthy $1400 on labor alone. How else can they pay for free floor mats and titanium shielding?

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