Kinda funny :)
this is a bad test. the sun was in his eyes
he was low on gas!
X started earlier. At least that what it looks like
@ww_spb ya its more comedic than a real test. Just found it funny.
he was using ethanol
Describe fair test.
Base AWD Model 3 vs F350?
(At least this was a 4WD Ford, that is clear.....)
"Physics is the law. Everything else is a recommendation."
(ICYMI, Elon Musk quoting Neil deGrasse Tyson when explaining TO Neil deGrasse Tyson why Cyber Truck will win a tug-of-war with the F150.)
It wasn’t fair, he was driving an ICE vehicle
If anything this is yet another example about how ICE trucks have inferior traction/grip.
This should be done longer as clutch/torque converter will get a workout / WEAR OUT!!
Great video and a legitimately competition unlike the CT video pulling a 2wd truck. Ford didn’t have a chance.
This is all about tires. Probably both are close to same weight, both AWD/4wd, x is running performance “sticky” tires, LT tires run high psi and tend to have a hard compound. That and the f150 has much less weight % over the rear axel.
Now, Elon needs to pit a Cyber Truck against a Model X. My money is on the X.
You know, it’s funny how Elon/Tesla is getting called out for the F150 tug of war, yet no one raised the BS flag on the hyperbole about an EV F150 pulling a million pounds of rail cars. I believe it was back in the 80’s a guy with a harness on, pulled 12 rail cars by himself. Once he got a little momentum going, you could see it was becoming easier for him. So the BS with Ford is the impression they were giving that their truck can pull 1,000,000 pounds.
Trimotor will embarrass an X, too.
@ big horn. Tug o war not necessarily. In asphalt A 3 motor CT on LT AT tires at proper psi vs a X on P metric z rated tires. As long as the two are close to the same weight and the connection point is similar height my money is on the X.
Watching this video the f 150 had an advantage with a higher strap connection point as the x was also pulling his back end down and he was slightly pulling the x up.
Since the Trimotor will have two batteries, the weight advantage of the CT is considerable. It will also have significantly more power available through the 3 motors.
Another thread that's irrelevant to this sub forum about a test that's pointless. Both vehicles have more torque than traction, the heavier vehicle with the stickier tires won.
Ford backed out of the challenge, it was won already when that happened.
He was blonde
Conclusion at the end: "I am getting a Cyber Truck"
@bighorn. In a pull like this power is pointless beyond a point because the one with less traction will spin tires and be pulled backwards like in this video.
And the X would have an even larger advantage if the CT is on the Goodyear wrangler MT/R’s like the current prototype.
This may be the fairest way to decide:
^^^^. If really trying to gauge capability I fully agree with a good ol tractor pull.
Speaking of tractor pulls.. If you read the threads on this topic you'll start asking yourself these questions:
Why do they have tractor pulls? They aren't fair. To make them fair all contestants have to use the same tires and same loaded weight otherwise you should just weigh the contestants and give1st place to the heaviest vehicle... Right?
@Lbow. Tractor pulls are different since they are all pulling the same thing a mechanical weighted sled that effectively gets heavier the farther it goes. And they do have weight classes and every vehicle is extremely close to the max weight for their class. Also they all pretty much use the same tires. Just like Slicks or any other specialized tire class every brand is almost the same and each has their theory on why theirs is best.
So Ok I have some friends who have diesel pickups . First thing they brought up was it isn't fair because Tesla is AWD and the trucks are 4 WD so on the 4WD not all wheels are locked in . I did notice on the Raptor against the model X though if you watch the wheels on the ford 3 of them are spinning forwad as he's pulled backwards. .
So it is Tesla's fault that they have better technology?
who oiled his wheels?
There are many variations of 4wd. And I’m 99% sure that isn’t a raptor. I think it’s a f150 with painted wheel flairs and crappy rims/tires: can’t see the blue fox shocks in the wheel wells, lower front bumper and tail gate dont look raptor, Seats don’t look like the Ricaro’s, and no centerline on the steering wheel.
Raptor also has a locking rear diff so with it engaged it forces the rear wheels to spin the same, but it has to be engaged to work. Also he should have had it in low range.
My g wagon was and my 80 series land cruiser are “triple locked” 4wd with lockers on front, center, and rear diffs. With all 3 engaged all 4 wheels will always spin at the same speed.
So put your Land Cruiser and G wagons up against The MX P100D. Challenge.
^^^. I don’t have the G- wagon any more. But I would put my Lx570 or 80 series against one. The 80 would probably do better than the LX
Wow. So many excuses for ICE technology...
· The Sun was up.
· It was Tuesday.
· He needed a head start.
· Electric vehicles don't use 'track approved fuels'.
· The Model X should at least have the decency to make it look like the Ford ~*might*~ stand a chance.
· It ain't fair! WAH! I want my Mommy!
Dude. ICE lost. AGAIN. Get over it.
but the truck looks more manly
Loved the cameragirl's response: "Holy... craaap...."
The Tesla was also giving the truck a traction advantage by having the tow strap mounted lower, giving more down force to the truck. Which still lost.
I'm just happy that Tesla almost revived the Studebaker Wagonaire:
But the evening's still young....
You forgot, the sun has been sunspot free for the longest period of time since the start of the space age. That's most likely the reason the ICE lost, bankwrupcy for sure...
Varricks: Hudson, Kaiser, Studebaker... All brands that were just as dead by my youth as Pontiac, Oldsmobile Mercury, and Plymouth are to my youngest Nephew.
Yeah, bloody "progress". That and the industrial entropists. O well. Or, as John Sebastian said, "our greatest fears will be his cartoons".