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Why Greenlots is turning off their DCFC systems.

Why Greenlots is turning off their DCFC systems.

I live in North Carolina and over the past few months I noticed that many of the Greenlots DCFC systems were being turned off and being removed from Plugshare. Several of these are in areas where there are no other DCFC options. So a few days ago I was on Plugshare and noticed the icon for the Wadesboro, NC DCFC was back on the web site and here is the message that was posted:

Brightfield-operated Signet fast chargers across NC are currently not operational. These older stations' communication systems run on 3G, which is phasing out nationally. Greenlots, the stations' network service provider, has decided to disable communications at all Signet chargers instead of upgrading the stations to 4G. As a result, Brightfield cannot communicate with, process payments at or operate the stations. WE ARE WORKING ON A SOLUTION. Brightfield is partnering with QwikCharge out of Atlanta, GA, to take over the operation and maintenance of the Signet chargers. QwikCharge is a premier EV charger service and maintenance company. They will upgrade the stations and provide the long-term service required. We expect to finalize our transaction with QuickCharge in January and have these stations back up and running by February. We at Brightfield are EV drivers too. We know the importance of these chargers and are frustrated by this situation. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I noticed there are several Greenlots systems in Richmond, VA that have been turned off and removed from Plugshare so this explains what is going on with those. I am sure there are Greenlots DCFC in other areas that are effected by this decision not to upgrade and simply turn off the DCFC system. On one hand you have to wonder why an EV charging company would simply turn off DCFC systems instead of upgrading the communication system in them. But Greenlots is owned by Shell and perhaps Shell thinks that fewer EV charging options is better for their core business.

BadgerErickson | 31 dicembre 2019

I see the N Carolina SuperCharger network is pretty thorough.

I have not used the Greenlots, are they cheaper than the SC network?

https://www.nowyouknowchannel.com/supercharger-reviews

I'd guess the upcoming 5G networks are the reason for hesitancy to change over right now? IDK for sure...

TeslaTap.com | 31 dicembre 2019

Never head of Greenlots before. A quick check finds they are a mix of CCS Combo and CHAdeMO, so you'd need the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter to use them.

rxlawdude | 31 dicembre 2019

Greenlots is the Blink of DCFC. :-)

Yodrak. | 31 dicembre 2019

"Greenlots is owned by Shell and perhaps Shell thinks that fewer EV charging options is better for their core business."

More likely, Shell has decided that it can make better use of the money it would have to spend upgrading the chargers by investing it elsewhere than in the EV charging business. Maybe Shell hasn't been getting enough business from EVs that use the CCS and CHAdeMO standards to make the business sufficiently profitable, and doesn't want to wait to see if the coming EVs that use those standards will make enough of a change given the competition from other charging services that use those standards?

rxlawdude | 31 dicembre 2019

Maybe if the DCFC thieves would charge a reasonable per ke rate, they would get business.

rxlawdude | 31 dicembre 2019

(Corrected.) Maybe if the DCFC thieves would charge a reasonable per kWh rate, they would get business.