And the "hits" (read hatchet jobs) just keep on coming

And the "hits" (read hatchet jobs) just keep on coming

Look I get it- there is a lot of money at stake here between the shorties and the entrenched industries. I used to think that most of what I read in the popular media was recycled crap. I think my previous estimate was too low....

sandman | 26 febbraio 2013

yes, very slanted retelling of the facts here. Reporter A supporting Reporter Friend B? That whole industry is pretty tightly knit.

sandman | 26 febbraio 2013

Yes, but why oh why did he have to use the "tesla on a flatbed trailer" as his headline picture ;)

cloroxbb | 26 febbraio 2013


If you read the VERY FIRST LINE under the pic, you will see that it
was being delivered, it wasnt out of juice on a flatbed :)

sunkat | 26 febbraio 2013

Car was delivered with license plates on it?

sandman | 26 febbraio 2013


Yeah, I know, but this is the hatchet job thread and my eye jumped to the picture first. I just don't like seeing S's on trailers. | 26 febbraio 2013

Understood-- I find myself getting more irritated with the whole negativity game-- The sad thing is that Noland's positive article doesn't get nearly as much exposure as Time & NYT articles.

sandman | 26 febbraio 2013

People like train wrecks. And people who've made very public statements don't like being on the wrong side of latest "ICE vs. Horse" debate.

I just try to remember it is the best car on the planet right now and I get to drive one and all of that other stuff fades. Speaking of which, I'm going to drive home(and maybe take a few detours too).

cloroxbb | 26 febbraio 2013


Reading is hard eh? haha :)

EVTripPlanner | 26 febbraio 2013

I think what was really going on what that Broder didn't *want* Tesla to succeed, so he didn't *try* to make it work. He cut corners that, as EV drivers, we would not have. As we all know, if you charge fully and pay attention, you *can* make it work...but that is the point - you have to want to make it work.

On the other hand, as much as the MS and Superchargers improve the situation, it is not the same as an ICE road trip and pretending it is just reduces credibility.

Most of what Elon said and presented was relatively even-handed and well-supported by the data - he just took it one step too far accusing Broder of driving around the parking lot to run out of power. The data don't really say that - and even those of us who want everything to work do have to drive around to find the superchargers in some locations the first time (how about gas-station style signage on tall posts?).

In any case, everyone feels like they have to be COMPLETELY "for" or "against" EVs and the MS. It's the best EV there's ever been - but that doesn't mean it doesn't take a little more planning to make a road trip. I think Elon would have done even better by acknowledging this and then letting the data speak for itself - he just didn't charge and didn't really pay attention to every mile he put on and then didn't report it very accurately. If only we were all engineers...

I tried my hand at an even-handed review at - yes, I LOVE this car...but that doesn't mean that road-tripping is the same as with an ICE.

sandman | 26 febbraio 2013

No, I read the article before posting. I was trying to be funny. Fail.

cloroxbb | 26 febbraio 2013

I was too... guess I fail too :(

Brian H | 26 febbraio 2013

That lot is brilliantly lit, the SCs, multiple (not one unit as he stated or implied), are about as obvious as a megawatt flashing neon sign, right by the entrance as you come int, and his account is totally unbelievable.

He DID try to run the car dry. No other explanation fits the facts, even loosely.

Brian H | 26 febbraio 2013

typo: "come in, and ..."

SSL161 | 27 febbraio 2013

Hum... I'm not sure that I'd agree that this was biased article.

He was just calling out Musk on the sabotage portion of his comments.

Arguably, Broder's explanation isn't entirely improbable, TM hasn't done a particularly good job with signage to indicate where their SC Stations are. I myself had a hard time finding the ones at the Folsom location on my first attempt. I too circled aimlessly until I gave up when I ran out of time. Good thing that I had plenty of range (I was just doing a recon).

Tiebreaker | 27 febbraio 2013

How about the claim of driving slow, with no heat, while driving fast and toasty?

Brian H | 27 febbraio 2013

I think he tried to recreate, partly in reality and party on paper, the difficulties a clueless novice driver could have if he took the "rated range" literally.

Winnie796 | 28 febbraio 2013

These negative articles are to be expected for several reasons.

1. People don't like change.......and the Model S is a big change!
2. There are two main industries who want this to fail. Car manufacturers and big oil. They have been buddies for years and Tesla threatens their dominance. They don't want change!
3. There are trolls and idiots that can see this as a way to grab headlines. They don't like change either.
4. People don't like change. Just thought I'd stress that again.

We are on the verge of a transport revolution and it is going to happen. We are the ones helping it succeed. Viva la Revolution!