Battery size and NAFTA

Battery size and NAFTA

Those of us in Canada are paying an additional 6.1% as an import tariff due to the S falling slightly below the percentage of the car that must be made in North America. This is due to the battery component. Just wondering if the lower number of cells used in 40 and 60 kWh packs might bring the S back into compliance with NAFTA. Any thoughts?

Brian H | 25 gennaio 2013

Not sure it was all that "slight", but interesting thought.

gregv64 | 25 gennaio 2013

Unfortunately, for NAFTA tariff provisions the imported content is averaged across all cars for a given model line, not each individual variation. It's averaged over 12 months, so I suppose that if Tesla sold a large number of 40's it might make a difference, but it looks like most of their orders are for 85s.

Anthony H | 25 gennaio 2013

Respectfully, how do you know this? If correct, that is very enlightening.

Stark | 26 gennaio 2013

Thanks for your insight @gregv64. I'm just angry at my government for this. I think it is crazy to pay an import duty when we have "free trade". I've already written my Member of Parliament and Prime Minster, but I don't think it will make a difference.

Brian H | 26 gennaio 2013

The issue is how much of the car is American-built. The imported batteries and a few other items put it below the minimum.

Sudre_ | 26 gennaio 2013

I have been pondering if it would be cheaper if Tesla would sell the cars in Canada without the battery. (batteries sold separately)
The owner would still pick out which battery size they wanted. It would still get fully tested then removed and shipped with but not in the car to a Canadian service center where the two would get reunited.
The battery could be listed on a separate invoice. The car would not get the NAFTA tariff but the battery would.

Brian H | 26 gennaio 2013

Devious. Possibly workable.

Anthony H | 26 gennaio 2013

Creative. :)

dtesla | 27 gennaio 2013

I confused about the whole NAFTA thing. I though you needed > 50% USA/Canada content to avoid the Canadian import tax. My MS sticker states 55% USA/Canada content.

What am I missing?

stevenmaifert | 27 gennaio 2013

Historically, tariffs are imposed to protect a domestic market producing a similar product from unfair foreign competition. Ask your PM and MP who in Canada is building anything like Model S.

nickjhowe | 27 gennaio 2013

@dtesla - check out this thread

Somewhere in there is the explanation from George about the exact percentages and why Model S doesn't meet the required target.

Brian H | 27 gennaio 2013

Currently 65%, and rising.