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Carl Pope. The Factory That Forged Me.

Carl Pope. The Factory That Forged Me.

A most interesting article by Carl Pope about our EV world.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/the-factory-that-forged-me-fremo...

TeslaTap.com | 24 maggio 2014

I also toured the old NUMMI plant when it was operating. It seemed to be a rather dirty and depressing place to work - but I expect the same of any other car factory. The Tesla factory is so unlike the NUMMI operation or any other car factory I've seen. It is truly both clean and impressive.

Red Sage ca us | 24 maggio 2014

Nice article.

Dramsey | 24 maggio 2014

So, do you buy into Carl's vision of "no private vehicle ownership" in order to make car utilization more efficient?

Red Sage ca us | 24 maggio 2014

I imagine it would be similar to the Taxi Cabs seen in movies like 'TOTAL RECALL', 'MINORITY REPORT' and 'I, ROBOT', or in videogames like 'MASS EFFECT'. An automated public transport that takes you where you need to be, either subsidized through tax dollars, or paid for through a monthly subscription fee.

In a world where a Toyota Corolla HFCEV costs $150,000 -- sharing the burden might be absolutely necessary for roommates, who are college graduates working at MacDonald's on different shifts. Consider it an extension of the 'crowd funding' concept.

hcwhy | 25 maggio 2014

Interesting...thanks for the post.

Dramsey | 25 maggio 2014

Red, I think you need to check the article again. He's very specifically talking about replacing privately-owned vehicles, not setting up an autonomous public transit system.

Like the system in Sawyer's "Neanderthal Parallax" books.

shop | 25 maggio 2014

No, shared ownership doesn't work. Do I really need to opine on socialism versus freedom every time something like this pops up?

petero | 25 maggio 2014

Thank you Mr. Musk I will now add "kludge" to my lexicon of pejorative words describing an ICE.

kludge [klooj] Show IPA noun Computer Slang. a software or hardware configuration that, while inelegant, inefficient, clumsy, or patched together, succeeds in solving a specific problem or performing a particular task

Red Sage ca us | 25 maggio 2014

Dramsey said, "He's very specifically talking about replacing privately-owned vehicles, not setting up an autonomous public transit system."

I wrote, "In a world where a Toyota Corolla HFCEV costs $150,000 -- sharing the burden might be absolutely necessary for roommates, who are college graduates working at MacDonald's on different shifts. Consider it an extension of the 'crowd funding' concept."

So... yeah. To me, 'privately-owned' means single owner. Whether it is public transportation, or shared ownership, neither of those is private.

Private transportation isn't likely to go away prior to the advent reliable teleportation. And even then, some won't want to wait in the queue to have their atoms disassembled and reassembled. In the meantime, shared and public transportation, properly managed, might find their place in society, somewhere, eventually. Maybe.

That doesn't necessarily mean socialism or communism or nihilism or despotism or nepotism or dumbassism will hold sway over the collective consciousness of people who really like their mind control chips and extra helpings of Soylent Green any time soon and stuff -- if we're lucky.

Brian H | 25 maggio 2014

Teleportation is risky. A bug in the transmit or reassembly phase, and you could end up like Gregor Mandel, Ein ungeheures Ungeziefer.

Red Sage ca us | 25 maggio 2014

"TESLA TELEPORTERS: No accidents in the last 17,572,342 days!"

Hence, 'reliable teleportation'. ;-)

renwo S alset | 25 maggio 2014

The concept of shared transportation is probably anathema to the older generation of which most Tesla owners belong, but for young people, it is very popular. Most don't even want a car and prefer something that fits there social network lifestyles. Check back in 20 years an it will probably be the norm.

SamO | 25 maggio 2014

Shared transportation already exists: zipcar

Monthly subscription. Pay by the hour. Insurance, fuel, repair, cleaning all included.

This isn't socialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharing_economy#Category_examples

hcwhy | 25 maggio 2014

I see the future with on demand self driving vehicles. The wealthy will still be able to have private coaches...and there will be basic and more premium companies supplying the cars...just like there are taxis and there are limos. If the vehicles are available to the public the inevitable trashing, puking, and gang graffiti will have to be managed.