Heading cross country!

Heading cross country!

Drove from Kentucky to New York last week to pick up my daughter in Hoboken for my co- pilot. As I was exiting the freeway for JFK, I hit something in the road that blew out a tire and bent the rim. Called tesla service at 7:am Monday morning. They had a new tire and rim on by 9 am. Left JFK supercharger at 9:45. Stopped in Hoboken and on to Newark, De. Full range charge and left with 258 miles. Pulled into Somerset sc with 11 miles rang left. Somerset to Macedonia in 3 hrs. It was snowing so the leg to Maumee, Ohio was slow. Got in at 2:30 am and couldn't get to the supercharger because of the snow that hadn't been plowed. Went to a Hampton inn 1/2 mile away and called Tesla. The guy told me to get some sleep and he would see what he could do. I went back to the sc at 8 am and it was clear. Are these guys the best or what! Headed out to Mishawaka with temp at 6 degrees. I'll keep you up to date if there is interest.

Paul1839 | 21 gennaio 2014

Sounds like fun! Please add some pics of the trip.

Robert Hodgen | 21 gennaio 2014

Have a good trip!

triss1 | 21 gennaio 2014

What speeds were you driving between Newark and Somerset and between Somerset and Macedonia? Those are both long legs with some elevation.

JohnGlenney | 21 gennaio 2014

Clearly this leg was going to be the most problematic. The cars nav wanted to take me on a route that was 240 miles but going by Harrisburg cut it down to 220 miles. In addition, a cold front was about to arrive that would make 220 miles difficult. We beat the cold front, so it was only 32degrees and we probably averaged 50-55 mph, but the road wasn't busy so we didn't hold up anyone. Sometimes you need a little luck on your side!

JohnGlenney | 21 gennaio 2014

Learned something this morning. Started to charge when it was 6 degrees and 17 miles range with a cold battery. Initial charge Rate was 334volts at 15 amps. It took about 45 minutes to ramp up to 150 amps. Made it to Mishawaka, temp 7 degrees, drove at 75 mph, energy usage was 451wh/m. Energy usage to Somerset by comparison was 313wh/m. Cold is a bitch!

redacted | 21 gennaio 2014

Cold is a pain. You're going to have a blast (the Arctic kind) going through Chicago, it's supposed to go below 0 tonight!

tesla.mahedy | 21 gennaio 2014

@myfastlady That sounds like so much fun! Very jealous!


tes-s | 21 gennaio 2014

I had the same issue supercharging with a cold battery - definitely much better to stop at a supercharger after driving a couple of hours, which is the normal case. If it were not for the snow and you were able to supercharge right when you arrived, I'll bet you would have gotten the full 120kW.

Besides supercharging I hope you get a chance to plug in at night in the cold temps - even if only 110v. That will help a lot.

Enjoy the trip!!

Brian H | 21 gennaio 2014

All the cold is staying in the middle. Here in Vancouver BC, well to the north of you, it's 44°F. And sunny.

Ragtimer | 21 gennaio 2014

What is your destination on the other coast?

mantin | 21 gennaio 2014

Here in Los Angeles it is 82 and slightly overcast. Summer in Jan, as usual. Best of luck on the X country ride. Keep reporting.

Baribrotzer | 21 gennaio 2014

How did you go from Newark, DE to Somerset, PA? You said the route included Harrisburg, but there's certainly no direct freeway link from Newark. And there doesn't seem to be much in the way of direct state highways, either, or even local roads - the Susquehanna River puts a stop to that.

This might be useful info for anyone who wants to make that trip before the Hagerstown SC opens.

bonaire | 21 gennaio 2014

Newark to Somerset is best done as:

896 N out of Newark to Lancaster, Rt. 283 to Harrisburg, PA Tpk.
A slower route is west on Rt. 30 through York,Gettysburg,Chambersburg (prettier but slower).

Google maps does a good job with the route - 213 miles.

Per O | 21 gennaio 2014

Hagerstown SC is all ready and tested, just waiting for utility transformer, which should be there before weeks end (according to supercharger, confirmed thread)! And Las Vegas is also almost ready, those additions should take the range anxiety out of a '85 x-country trip.
Sorry about the tire/rim!
Do you have 21 or 19 inch and what tires?
And pictures please!

JohnGlenney | 21 gennaio 2014

Only issue today was heavy snow 60 miles outside Chicago. 10 mph for an hr. Ice cars stuck in the snow. Model s did great. Charged at sc in highland park. Beautiful new facility with service center and gallery. Had them look at my tire sensors that had been giving me a fault. Back on the road in short order. Stopped for dinner while charging in Madison. Only problem was that the car was finished charging before i finished dinner! It is so fast it seems like magic. Due to be -22 tonight in Minnesota. Think I will tackle Minnesota during the day tomorrow.

NKYTA | 21 gennaio 2014

@myfastlady, where did you eat in Madison? I haven't been to the East Towne Mall in decades, but grew up on the west side of town.

Keep up the great work!

Also, 120 or 90 at East Towne?

JohnGlenney | 21 gennaio 2014

Buffalo Wild Wings. As an added treat, the Kentucky wildcats were on TV.

skymaster | 22 gennaio 2014

I assume you are charging only at Superchargers? This is history in the making! First Tesla Model S to go coast to coast on the brand new "Supercharger Highway"...completed around 1-26-2014.

Early congrats to myfastlady!!

TFMethane | 22 gennaio 2014

I doubt she'll be going through Vegas. She must be heading to or through LA. I have yet to drive from LA to Phoenix, because that last link between Quartzite, AZ and LA is about 250 miles, and goes through some powerful and constant easterly winds. Banning Pass near Indio has one of the worlds largest wind farms, and you have to drive right against it to get to LA. I won't make the trip until the Indio supercharger opens up (hopefully very soon).

It would be a pity if @myfastlady has to stop at a non-supercharger station on the very last leg of her trip. Fortunately, there are a lot of them once you get within 100 miles of LA.

TFMethane | 22 gennaio 2014

Correction: westerly winds. Headwinds while driving west.

TFMethane | 22 gennaio 2014

Maybe Kingman will be operational before @myfastlady gets there:

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

When we left New York, Cheyenne was not open, but thanks to the reporting from participants in this forum and elsewhere I had confidence the it would be open when I got there. The pictures I have seen from Kingman and Las Vegas lead me to believe they will be open any day. Tesla has not let me down in the 3 years I have owned their cars ( 2 years with a roadster first). If GM was doing the rollout I would not have left yet! I think Hawthorne will be a good place to finish. Any other thoughts.

Per O | 22 gennaio 2014

if you go
it says Access Denied, which is what I got the day before Cheyenne opened, so the page is probably ready for the very moment they get the site to pass inspection!!!

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

Onalaska to Albert Lea, MN was a nightmare. Strong winds blowing snow sideways caused visibility near zero at times. Averaged 50-55mph but still got only 455wh/mi efficiency. Fortunately I have been charging to a higher level than I think we need, and then we needed it. Left Onalaska with rated range of 227 miles then drove 125 miles and had 28 miles range left. Our friends at Tesla sited these superchargers just the right distance apart. I wouldn't recommend this drive in a 60 kWh car in the winter. On the other hand, this will make the weather in the southwest seem sweeter when we get there.

David15 | 22 gennaio 2014

+1 myfastlady These updates are great. Keep 'email coming and enjoy the historical journey. I certainly am.

Per O | 22 gennaio 2014

+1 myfastlady I think Hawthorne will be a good place to finish. Any other thoughts.//
Why not go all the way to Fremont? Although you beat Elon, I'm sure he still want to say hello!

ian | 22 gennaio 2014

This is so awesome! Thanks for sharing your journey!

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

Just when I thought driving conditions couldn't get worse.... Albert Lea to Worthington probably averaged 55 mph and I would have been going the same speed in an ice car. Wind picked up some and temp is dropping. Zero degrees in Worthington at 3pm and snow blowing like crazy. Got out to hook up charge cord and it wouldn't start charging! Had to get back in the car just to warm up to try again. Realized the charger connection was packed with snow. Blew it out, hooked it up and it charging started. Left Albert Lea with 225 miles range, drove 116 miles and ended with 7 miles range, having used 532wh/mile! Listening to "the Grapes of Wrath" on audiobooks and I will take our road trip over theirs any time.

Pricee2 | 22 gennaio 2014

I gather myfastlady is your MS. Are you a guy or a gal? What does your daughter think of the trip so far? Thank you for keeping us updated.

Be careful out there.

dorothy.morrison | 22 gennaio 2014

Way to hang in there John!! I'm enjoying reading about the adventure as if reading a good book..Take care! Dorothy

kimlovesbucky | 22 gennaio 2014

Have fun John and Jill! Love, Kim and Claire

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

I am a 62 yr old guy.

This is Jill, his 26 year old daughter. I am enjoying the adventure so far and love seeing the country in this way, plus it's a great excuse to take a week off work! I have had the opportunity to learn a lot about and drive these cars since my dad has had them the past few years but the addition of the superchargers has made this road trip a very unique experience. The only downside is attempting to drive in this in Minnesota weather... which is why I'm writing this and HE is driving.

NKYTA | 22 gennaio 2014

Very sensible Jill! ;-)

Tiebreaker | 22 gennaio 2014

@myfastlady : Have a safe trip and a lot of fun! Great father-daughter bonding trip, with a Tesla grin!

wraithnot | 22 gennaio 2014

Thanks for posting details about your epic trip! The current record for most superchargers visited is 19: If you have time, you should definitely post in that thread on the teslamotorsclub site when you break the record. And each time you set a new record.

My5bAby | 22 gennaio 2014


I'm jealous but rooting for you. I drove from DC to Miami the day I took delivery 12/22/2012, without superchargers. There is something really unique and wonderful about such a journey. If I knew you I would have asked you for advice because of your wealth of experience. I wish you a safe trip.

Have a blast !

SamO | 22 gennaio 2014

Planning the same route in my MS60 in February.

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

Arrived in Mitchell, SD. Minnesota is not at the top of our "favorite states to drive through" list. Jill started driving when we left Worthington and after 10 minutes pulled over because she couldn't see the road. I started driving very slowly and stated with confidence (but no evidence) that it was about to clear up. 10 minutes later it cleared up and I drove the rest of the way at 65-70 mph.It was still very cold (-3) but we had charged to a 257 mile range, anticipating problems. The efficiency was low (av. 508wh/mi) but I had no range anxiety and we had the heat cranked up to 72 degrees. arrived with 21 miles range left after 130 miles. One thing I really like about the supercharger system is that you just look up the next charger in navigation, select it, and it guides you turn by turn and puts you right on the spot with no lost time or miles hunting for it. Now if Elon's guys can finish the self-driving navigation, we could go to sleep and have the car wake us up when we arrive.

David15 | 22 gennaio 2014

Kingman was just added to the map. Looks like you can put the hammer down when you get on dry pavement!

David15 | 22 gennaio 2014

Holbrook is on also! Woohoo!

MacDaddyDude | 22 gennaio 2014

And Moab! You guys are set, but I am curious about the Cheynne past Denver leg since you climb that big hill at the end of the drive. Everyone is watching. Be SAFE!

skymaster | 22 gennaio 2014

I would suggest a full charge at Cheyenne. The hill up to Silverthorne will drain the battery real quick.

When you get to Glenwood Springs, CO , check out the Hot Springs Pool. It is incredible.

I would be wary of arriving late at night to Glenwood, or any Supercharger at a hotel. They will get ICED almost every night!

Have fun.

JohnGlenney | 22 gennaio 2014

Thanks for all the advice and encouragement. Keep it coming, the fat lady hasn't sung yet and challenges lie ahead. Made it to Murdo and called it a day. The weather gave us a break. Even though temps were hovering around -4, wind subsided to 15 mph and roads were clear. Jill drove and I got some rest in a makeshift bed in the back. I haven't done that much white knuckle driving and it was pretty exhausting. Just charged to 80% and stopped so that I can top it up and get everything warmed up before leaving in the morning ( staying at the lodge with the supercharger). It looks like we've got some significant elevation changes tomorrow so that should make it fun, or not!

Bighorn | 22 gennaio 2014

Check out Dickey's in Rapid City if you have a hankerin' for barbeque. There's the car museum in Murdo if you've got any spare time. Lusk, not so much going on.

STEVEZ | 23 gennaio 2014

Way to go, John and Jill! We tested Cheyenne out for you on Tuesday: it's good to go! Take the Cheyenne-to-Silverthorne segment with care: it's only 167 miles, but with a 1000' descent and a 6000' climb to crest the Divide at the Eisenhower tunnel, if the weather is snowy and/or windy, it can be a stretch, even in an 85.

Ping me if you need a booster charge in between; I'm 20 miles north of Denver, not far from I-25.

SamO | 23 gennaio 2014


What's the slowest you would feel comfortable driving that stretch (Cheyenne to Silverthorne) without impeding traffic? | 23 gennaio 2014

This thread brings a smile to me.

Kudos to myfastlady for letting us share in the journey.

And kudos to all who have provided advice, updated SC status and offered help.

There is so much BS on this forum I was ready to put it behind me. But, a thread like this one makes up for it!

RVC | 23 gennaio 2014

@GaryREM +1!!!
@myfastlady All the best and stay safe! Thanks for sharing!

JohnGlenney | 23 gennaio 2014

What a difference a day makes! Left at 7:30 from Murdo with a warm car and full battery. OK, its still -6 degrees but the roads are clear under bright sunshine. The wide open landscape has a certain natural allure. I know, you Californians are thinking that there is no allure at -6 degrees and you may be right because there aren't many people here. I know we are retracing a road trip Elon and his brother made in college, but Jill reminded me that we had been on this road before. Back in 1997, we rented an RV and together with my wife Kim, Jill and her sister Diana we made this road trip as far as yellowstone park. I haven't passed this way since, but I do recall connecting with this land. I am working on posting the pictures elsewhere with a link here. We are also taking carefull notes on times, temperature, energy usage and distances to be put into a spreadsheet for reference. One thing that seems clear already is that the system works! No one would choose to take a road trip to see the sights in mid winter, but even under the harshest conditions, the car and chargers work perfectly. The brilliance of the vision and execution at Tesla is clearly on display. If I was the ceo of Exon taking this trip I would slit my throat because the future of personal transportation seem clear.

NKYTA | 23 gennaio 2014

I'm pushing the Go pedal vicariously! Fun!