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Model S Reservation Tally

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 249 (March 23, 2011)
P 3,446 (March 25, 2011)
R 218 (January 2011)

Canada
S 69 (March 24, 2011)
P 143 (March 9, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 55 (January 18, 2011)*
P 448 (March 28, 2011)

Hong Kong
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
P 17 (January 21, 2011)

S = Signature Series (Model S)
P = General Production (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family

* = On March 1, 2011, a Tesla member posted, "Got the following info from Tesla some days ago: In Europe they have reduced the Signature down to 500 and approximately 70 have been reserved." While 55 is a confirmed/posted reservation number from this forum, the 70 has yet to be verified by the actual European reservation holder.

Mycroft | 12 ottobre 2011

@bhs1, yep. In fact, when you count SSL sigs, over 50 have been sold since the event! There should be at least 50 or 60 more by the end of the month (as people are able to scrounge up the $35k or $40k), which might put us over 800 in total.

I think the sigs will be sold out by the end of the year.

michiganmodels | 12 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 550 (October 12, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,265 (October 11, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 183 (August 15, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 95 (October 3, 2011)
P 464 (September 22, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,145 - October 12, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

gloriacubana | 13 ottobre 2011

October 10
Canada
Got the general reservation #202

michiganmodels | 13 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 550 (October 12, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,265 (October 11, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 95 (October 3, 2011)
P 464 (September 22, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,164 - October 12, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

brianman | 13 ottobre 2011

October 13
United States
S 552

andvib | 14 ottobre 2011

October 14
Europe
P510

Brian H | 14 ottobre 2011

Interesting; the EU P count is jumping about 3 per day ...

michiganmodels | 14 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 552 (October 13, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,265 (October 11, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 95 (October 3, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,212 - October 14, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

Volker.Berlin | 14 ottobre 2011

Still 10 times as many reservations in the USA as in Europe and Asia together. This car is going to be a really exclusive/exotic ride in Europe for some time to come. I understand that there are naturally more reservations in Tesla's home country than in Europe -- but 10 times as much?? Really leaves me wondering... (There are more than twice as many Europeans than US-americans, according to Wikipedia.)

Tedje | 14 ottobre 2011

October 14
The Netherlands (Europe)
S99

Mycroft | 14 ottobre 2011

Volker, I think it's a size thing. The width is already determined by the size of the battery pack, so I think the big Europe rollout won't take off until Bluestar.

Hopefully Bluestar will be much narrower, but have both an economy version and a luxury version.

Volker.Berlin | 14 ottobre 2011

I am no so sure. I have never heard of someone preferring an A6 or 5 series or E class over an A8 or 7 series or S class because the latter is "too wide". I am not saying you are wrong, but I am not convinced.

I think is has more to do with the fact that Tesla is a newcomer and a US brand. American cars do not have many fans over here, and as I said earlier, the Model S is practically non-existent in German auto press. Which I find is a shame, but one consequence seems to be the low number of reservations. For many Germans, the Model S would probably classify more as a German kind of car than as a typical "American" car, but they just don't know about it. And they generally distrust Americans when it comes to building cars (Model S reservation holders including myself being notable exceptions although I would not buy a Chevrolet, either).

Mycroft | 14 ottobre 2011

I sincerely hope you're right Volker. It would be fantastic if the Model S gains the reputation in Europe of a luxury sport car along the lines of a Panamera, Aston or Jag. I think the sleek lines and the distinctive cats eyes DRLs will help.

Tesla should market it as a Shooting Brake or Estate wagon. Really suck the manor dwellers in. :)

Volker.Berlin | 14 ottobre 2011

Well... First, I think the Model S better compares to a 5 series or A6 (maybe 5 GT or A7) than to a Panamera or Rapide. The XF is an adequate comparison, though.

Second, it all depends on the actual ride. Low CG and unprecedented torque is not everything. Suspension is very important, too (reports of American test riders have been positive and the air suspension is certainly promising) as is ergonomic seating with excellent lateral support (not so much, according to the test riders).

Although I am very enthusiastic about the Model S (no surprise for anyone reading these forums ;-) I am still skeptical how it actually compares to a (European) 5 series in handling and comfort. AFAIK, the 5 series sold in America has been softened to match the American taste. Tesla has to do something similar when offering the Model S in Europe, and I think it is very, very hard to get that right. They may very easily overshoot and make it sporty/tough but uncomfortable, and on the other hand it may easily feel to fluffy and, eh, "American" to German drivers. We can only wait and see.

Volker.Berlin | 14 ottobre 2011

(The DRLs are great, though. A must-have for anyone who wants to compete with Audi or BMW, and I think they got that one right.)

Volker.Berlin | 14 ottobre 2011

Re: Width, the Panamera is 83.2" and the Cayenne is 87.2" including mirrors, and both sell like hotcakes in Europe as well as in America. Same with Audi Q7 (85.7" incl. mirrors). The Model S with its 86.0" is relatively wide but not out of bounds even for European taste.

michiganmodels | 14 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 552 (October 13, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,265 (October 11, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,216 - October 14, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

brianman | 14 ottobre 2011

Is my tally wrong...

956 = 552+189+92+99+13+2+9

... or is the Signature reserve list nearly complete?

Mycroft | 14 ottobre 2011

No, it's 1,000 in the US not worldwide. So we have a ways to go.

michiganmodels | 17 ottobre 2011

@Brianman - Mycroft is correct. There is approximately 741 US Signatures reserved.

Mycroft | 17 ottobre 2011

I think the tipping point will be 900. Once the fence sitters see less than 100 seats available, they're going to jump in like locusts! :)

Volker.Berlin | 17 ottobre 2011

Which, in turn, will give a sudden and hefty boost to the potential selling value of low P reservations... At least in the US.

michiganmodels | 17 ottobre 2011

@Mycroft - I believe the pricing announcement will also have a significant impact (namely, once Tesla announces the price differential between a fully loaded general production and a Signature).

Mycroft | 17 ottobre 2011

Heh, I wonder which will come first, Signature sell-out or the pricing list. :)

Volker, I don't think Tesla allows reservation transference except in extenuating circumstances, so quite a few hoops would probably have to be jumped to make any money at it. I guess believable extenuating circumstances could be manufactured easily enough though.

Volker.Berlin | 17 ottobre 2011

@Mycroft, this question has been discussed here:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/anybody-interested-purchasing-my...

We do not have any definitive answer, but I think it is none of Tesla's business who is going to convert any given reservation into an order/sale.

Mycroft | 17 ottobre 2011

No, I think it is definitely in their best interest to discourage speculators who would cancel their spots en-mass at the last minute if they can't make a buck on the deal.

Volker.Berlin | 17 ottobre 2011

Yes, it may be in their interest, but what can they do? I think best they could do was coming up with the Signature series and direct the cash of those who are willing to pay for an early spot into their own pockets. That adds to Tesla's liquidity and turns speculators away. But when the last Signature is reserved, they don't have a lot of a lever any more. I can always order a car in the configuration someone else wants and then immediately sell it to that someone. What should Tesla do about it? And since they can't do much about it, there is no point in adding hassle and hard feelings to prevent reservation trading.

Actually I don't think speculators who cancel their spots at the last minute are any problem. First, there are no speculators with low P spots. I'd assume that only really interested people actually took note of the Model S prototype presentation and made the move to reserve an early P spot. Second, if there are any speculators, they won't cancel their spots. Rather, they will make a buck on the deal and everybody's happy. I can't see how reservation trading would hurt Tesla's business one bit.

jackhub | 17 ottobre 2011

I have re-read the agreement I signed for my reservation. It is quite clear that the agreement is between me and Tesla. I don't see any language permitting the assignment of the reservation to someone else, but neither do I see any language prohibiting assignment. The language in the agreement does indicate that Tesla intends to deal with the person signing the reservation. I suppose time will tell, but for those wanting to sell, the safest approacvh may be to take delivery and then sell the car. I intend to drive mine.

Denis Vincent | 17 ottobre 2011

I believe that there are a few eventualities that are going to cause Reservation holders to vacate their Reservation Sequence #'s. The introduction of the Model X will no doubt be better suited for many buyers, this is evident in reading the threads posted in these forums, some buyers want a 4X drive, more ground clearance, towing capabilities, racks of all sorts, ect. The other factor is the ability to close, some buyers may not be in a position to come up with the cash or financing when their Reservation Sequence # comes "due". These Tesla supporters should be given priority and the privilege to migrate their deposits towards the eventual purchase of the Model X or even a lesser expensive Model (economy, compact???) that Tesla hopefully has in the works for those who can't afford expensive EV,s. Rather then refunding the deposits to these Reservation Holders and collapsing the Reservation list, Tesla could capitalize on this opportunity and allow Reservation Holders that might want an earlier delivery to "bid" on an earlier vacated Reservation Sequence #. This would not impact the final purchase price of the vehicle, simply increase the deposit amount. Anyone else who is in the market for a Tesla S of which there will be many upon its release), would also be free to bid on that vacated RS # as well, deposits going to Tesla Motors. I don't believe that any of the present Reservation holders would feel the least bit slighted if someone paid 3 or 4 times more for their RS# no matter what RS# the new buyer "bought". This would eliminate the secondary market and potentially bring in a whole lot of cash into Tesla Motors, which we all truly want to succeed. Great for the share holders as well!! (Maybe Elon could get his friends at E-Bay to manage the whole task...)

rdgreene | 18 ottobre 2011

Oct 18
US S580

johnnybananas | 18 ottobre 2011

Just got my reservation # today:

US
P = 5370

Spoke to the rep at the Newport Beach store a couple weeks ago and she mentioned that they're moving their showroom into the old Apple store location at Fashion Island (a shopping mall of sorts). Compared to the existing location, this will result in much more foot traffic and exposure for Tesla.

She also mentioned something about a marketing push later this year. Think about it: There hasn't been one Tesla commercial on tv and no ads I've seen in magazines, yet they're still getting reservations. I firmly believe that reservations will hit a much steeper curve once marketing starts to ratchet up.

And can you imagine what will happen when actual test-drivable versions hit showroom floors early next year? I can easily imagine reservations doubling, provided they continue delivering the goods in terms of aesthetics and muscle.

michiganmodels | 19 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 580 (October 18, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,370 (October 18, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,349 - October 18, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

David M. | 19 ottobre 2011

WOW!

PREDICTION ALERTS!
1. Reservations will easily exceed 10,000 well before production begins.
2. Reservations made in 2012 will exceed vehicles shipped in 2012.
3. Reservation backlog on Jan. 1 2013 estimated to be 12,000 vehicles (after delivering 5,500 in 2012).

Maybe I didn't purchase enough shares of TSLA?

Zelaza | 19 ottobre 2011

Is there a break down of the number of reservations of Model S with ranges of 300 miles, 230 miles, and 160 miles?

Mycroft | 19 ottobre 2011

Nope. You decide which model you want when you place your order. Hopefully after you've had a test drive. :)

Zeed | 19 ottobre 2011

If there's enough data to derive an exponent, does someone have the math to trend out the curve to Dec 31, 2013?

michiganmodels | 19 ottobre 2011

@David M. - I agree.

I believe the momentum will only pick up as:

1) Tesla has a formal marketing campaign in place.
2) The General public witnesses (re: salivates) over Model S' on the road. (3 of my neighbors are dying to drive my Model S. They are 99% sure they'll lease/buy one if the car delivers on what they're seeing on the website/videos)

Etographer | 19 ottobre 2011

Your Reservation Sequence number is 5,377 of the General Production reservation list.

I recieved my number today October 19th. I am in the pacific northwest region of the United States.

Cheers!

Eric

Loek | 19 ottobre 2011

I just saw the official mileage figures for the Fisker Karma. With only 52 mpge, a 32 mile electric range and a 20 mpg rating on the engine, it is not even in the same state as Tesla. I expect this to push a lot of current fence sitters into the Tesla camp. You can buy a base Model S and have enough left over to buy a Leaf or a Volt and still put money in the bank for the base price of a Fisker. Then you get better performance in every way, a pure electric, a backup car and lower maintenance costs too.

I would not be at all surpised to see a bit on a jump in reservations with this disappointing Fisker news.

michiganmodels | 20 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 580 (October 18, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,377 (October 20, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,356 - October 20, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

gjunky | 20 ottobre 2011

If you pick the battery when your reservation number is due, how can Tesla build the large battery versions first (not just the signature versions)? There has been some talk on this forum that they will build the 160 mile batteries last but this doesn't work with a list of reservation holders that haven't indicated their battery choice yet.

Mycroft | 20 ottobre 2011

My thinking is that when your number is up, they'll ask you to submit your build request, (probably using the designer on the website), and then they can let you know about when your car will be built. If you select the 160 mile version, it's likely to be a long wait.

It's unknown if you have to pay for the car at time of order or at the time of delivery or if there's a non-refundable deposit somewhere along the line.

EdG | 20 ottobre 2011

I guess they'll start calling in the Signature reservations first, then the non-Sigs. As you sign for your version (Sig, 300, 240, 160), you are put at the end of the line of already-signed-up-purchasers for that version.

They build in that order. Just a guess.

Mycroft | 20 ottobre 2011

It's definitely going to be interesting. Consider GP #5 who wants a 160mi version while GP #5,000 wants a 300mi version. Hmmmm.

Volker.Berlin | 20 ottobre 2011

Deepak Ahuja (Tesla CFO)

Yes, the Signature series, which is the first 1,000, will be the 300 mile range only, because it's kind of like the fully-loaded vehicle. And then thereafter, if you want the option of the 300 or the 230 mile, and at the very end of next year, sort of early December, it's when we'll be able to start making some of the 160 miles (technical difficulty).

It's difficult to predict advance how many are going to be 300 versus 230, but it could be half and half, could be 130, but it's difficult to predict. We don't have an indication of that yet, because we've not assessed that you'll pick one or the other.

Source: August 3, 2011 Q2 earnings call
http://seekingalpha.com/article/284453-tesla-motors-ceo-discusses-q2-201...

To me this means that someone with a low reservation number, who wants to have a 160-mile battery, will have to wait around 6 more months. That's peanuts compared to the 3 years that hypothetical person has already been waiting! ;-)

Brad Holt | 20 ottobre 2011

That makes me VERY excited. I'm a relatively high reservation number, but since I'm planning to snag a 300mi battery, maybe I'll get my S sooner! Yay!

aquinto | 21 ottobre 2011

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 580 (October 18, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,408 (October 20, 2011)

Canada
S 92 (October 3, 2011)
P 202 (October 10, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,387 - October 20, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

David M. | 21 ottobre 2011

By the time Production begins, there will likely be 8,000 or more (P) reservations. I've got to believe that 75% of them will choose either the 300 or the 230 battery (6,000 cars plus 1,000 Sigs). Unless Tesla draws a line in the sand sometime early next year, I don't believe they will produce any Model S cars with the 160 mile battery in 2012.

Reservations will increase sharply over the next 6 months. There could be 10,000 or more (P) reservations by mid 2012. For the first several months of production, the Model S backlog of reservations may actually GO UP. Meaning New Reservations per month, exceed Deliveries per month, for several months.

Volker.Berlin | 21 ottobre 2011

David M., I agree with most of what you say but I disagree with your conclusion that no 160 mile models will be produced in 2012. I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that they will simply finish the production line for 160s later than the other two. Whenever the production line is ready, they will start producing. This is only remotely related to whether or not there are still 300s and 230s reservations pending production.

Yet, I am convinced that it is no coincidence or technical necessity to start with the 300s first. Those are the ones that will be scrutinized by the auto press around the globe, and of course Tesla wants to show off their top-of-the-line model. Also, the 300s have the largest gross margin per unit (my guess) so it's probably advantageous for Tesla to "convert" those reservations first.

BTW, this is good tradition at most car manufacturers: The smaller/cheaper versions of a new model are delayed for a few months.

Mycroft | 21 ottobre 2011

They just need to focus on the battery pack line. Once they have enough 300 and 230 packs set aside (regardless of the number of car bodies they've built), they can make the 160 packs next.

So when they're battery pack inventory gets large enough, they just pull the correct one out of the bin for the next car down the line. No different than installing the optional jump seats or not.

I don't think they'll have to wait 'til all the 300 and 230 orders are filled before filling the 160s. They'll be able to easily intersperse them once things really get going.

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