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Model x vs Model S ground clearance

Model x vs Model S ground clearance

I know that the Model X is built on the same chassis as the Model S, but is their more ground clearance in the Model X?

Subaru has the Legacy and Outback built on the same chassis, but the Outback has more ground clearance and is better in deeper snow.

Most SUV type vehicles have more ground clearance than sedans. Will the Model X have this same advantage?

Red Sage ca us | 14 agosto 2015

Idunno. But I would hope that the adjustable air suspension on the Model X has no less than 4" of travel... And possibly more, like 6" to 8" in total adjustment range. I think there was a Subaru with that type of height adjustment, once upon a time...

aesculus | 14 agosto 2015

I agree on the extended travel of the air suspension. Why not give it more travel as in a snow mode? Once you get to a cleared highway you take it out of snow mode and it lowers to a more reasonable level for less air impacts.

Maybe they should do the same thing when you get in and out. Sort of like the camel that kneels down for you on mount/dismount :-)

Also the X is a the perfect car for this. No differentials and drive shafts to get hung up like there is an ICE car/suv.

ian t.wa.us | 14 agosto 2015

I believe it will based solely on the size of the wheels and tires on the mules and release candidate vehicles we've seen out and about in testing. Unless they've changed the suspension.

There have also been pictures posted of an S and X tester next to each other and the X is a bit higher off the ground.

Cheers!

Ross1 | 15 agosto 2015

I have a 2003 Citroen C5 which has the fluid suspension (as also supplied by them to Rolls Royce. It is adjustable for ground clearance but when in the UP position it is very much on "tippy toes" and unsteady. i.e. it is not for general driving, only for running over obstacles and pedestrians. At higher speeds it automatically lowers to normal, then at fast highway speed it settles right down to be a ground hugger. Diesel BTW and best car I ever had. Started with a T Model Ford at 13 y.o. (Australia).

carlk | 15 agosto 2015

@aesculus There was an old post someone who saw an X at the Fremont service center thought it lowered its front while people were doing something with it.

sbeggs | 15 agosto 2015

@Ross,

I loved driving the C5 in France in 2011. Loved the way it hugged the curves and slowed using engine braking. Tight! When we test drove P85, we realized regenerative braking achieved the same feeling.

Laryrob | 15 agosto 2015

Anybody have any idea whether the falcon doors will:
1. Hit the adjacent car in my garage( my P85D!) or 2. hit the garage opener above the X in the garage.
Am worried it won't clear either/both

dlake | 15 agosto 2015

Maybe when driving in snow, the MX will partially retract wheels and slide downhill on its battery case! LOL

georgehawley.fl.us | 15 agosto 2015

@Laryrob: if you can't hit the P85D with a front door, you won't be able to do it with a FW door.
Best estimate of fully open height is 85".

Remnant | 15 agosto 2015

@ aesculus (August 14, 2015)

<< No differentials and drive shafts to get hung up like there is an ICE car/suv. >>

Truth is that the Tesla Dual Motor configuration requires one mechanical differential per axle. To be able to accomplish the differential functions electronically, through a torque vectoring program, you must have separate motors for each wheel or semi-axle.

Yet, AFAIK, MX is a Dual Motor vehicle rather than a Quad Motor one, in which case torque vectoring takes place through the ABS, that is through a braking algorithm.

Only the relationship between the two motors is programmed electronically. It is possible, but unlikely, that Tesla will offer a Quad Motor option for the MX, unless they have already planned the production that way already.

tma | 23 settembre 2015

To reply to the original question, I guess we'll find out soon enough but I hope they realized that the adjustable air suspension in the X could produce big bonus points for buyers. The Jeep Cherokee in the US has a similar system and I think it goes from like 6" to 11". Seems like the X ought to match or surpass that. And if they seal the battery and everything else it could give the X pretty serious off roading credibility---like better than a Jeep Wrangler in a lot of ways.

georgehawley.fl.us | 23 settembre 2015

The MX can be ordered with 22" wheels for a little added boost.

eric.zucker | 23 settembre 2015

@georgehawley.fl.us: sorry, the rim diameter is what you are referring to, and this does not change the outside diameter of the wheel. Bigger rim means thinner tires, does not change the ride height.

Actually the bigger rims are a very poor option for off-road, you'll just get them damaged.

gfb107 | 24 settembre 2015

> sorry, the rim diameter is what you are referring to, and this does not change
> the outside diameter of the wheel. Bigger rim means thinner tires, does not change the ride height.

True, but the Model X offers the choice of 20" or 22" rims, while the Model S offers the choice of 19" or 21" rims. I expect the actual outer diameter of the Model X tires is (at least) 1" larger than the outer diameter of the Model S tires, which should increase the ground clearance by (at least) 1/2", without any other changes.

georgehawley.fl.us | 24 settembre 2015

See Eric. I was right even when I was wrong.:-))

eric.zucker | 27 settembre 2015

Yes, George.

sra | 27 settembre 2015

The ride high is important to a CUV/SUV if you will use the X under rough conditions.

Solarfan | 27 settembre 2015

For use in deep snow, mud, or any soft surface, it is generally best to use the highest aspect-ratio tire (tall and skinny) that will provide the rolling diameter the vehicle is designed for.

Low aspect-ratio tires (like those that would be mounted on 22" wheels) provide more "lift", similar to how aspect ratio works on an aircraft wing. In snow or mud, you do not want lift, you want to steering ability.