Three weeks in and no speeding tickets

Three weeks in and no speeding tickets

For all those waiting on their Model S I tell you it is completely worth it. I have had my baby for three weeks now and miraculously have not been ticketed yet. Arrival of the car does help Model S "forumitus" as I have not been poring (thanks Brian) over the forums as much as I used too. I think most folks waiting on their S have now had the chance at a test drive. For those of you that have not don't worry, it is unbelievable, like driving a rocket ship. Some feedback for those still making the tough decisions: I did not opt for the performance version. Unfortunately speed is like a drug and you will want more but three weeks in I am completely satisfied with the standard version. I previously drove an Acura TL and the torque on the S is just unbelievable. I can only imagine the tickets I would get with the performance version. I am sure the performance version is unbelievable but it is hard to imagine it being any faster. The standard version is fast! 21" wheels. If you are on the fence get them. I read allot regarding concern about pot holes, ride, range etc. but the 21" wheels are fantastic. They look incredible and they hold the road like a slot-car. The air suspension makes the ride incredibly smooth. I just swapped out my 21" tires for the non-studded 19" winter tires and I miss my 21's already. I notice a considerable difference in handling between the two. I am not sure how the standard 19" tires compare to the winter tires, but if they are at all similar I would highly recommend the 21" wheels and tires. Battery: get the biggest one you can afford. The Model S is designed to be driven hard and fast and unfortunately if you are like me it is hard not to. My projected range seems to float around 200 miles based on my prior driving habits. You can certainly turn the air off and drive 55 but that is not why you buy this car. Even if that is your plan, it is going to be hard to do it with all that power under your foot. Surprises: the little turn lights that come on when you turn the wheel. I know other cars have this option but I did not expect it. Lack of storage space, I know it has been debated ad nauseam but it is true, there is absolutely no storage space. It has taken some getting used to but I have adapted. I bought a clip for the visor to hold my sunglasses and crammed the rest in the glove box. It’s not as bad as you might think. The floor mats are mediocre at best and they only include front floor mats. I filled out the request form at weather tech for them to make Model S mats. I suggest others do as well so we can have some other options. Dry cleaning, what you say? Well I picked mine up the other day and surprise, surprise no little hook in the back ceiling. I’ll survive. Lastly, they key. I struggled to find a key chain that will work with the Tesla key. I finally found an Olympus camera strap at B&H photo for $2.95 that works like a charm. You can order it online. The only thing I am still waiting on is my parcel shelf. Bottom line: The car, the personal delivery and the entire Tesla team has all been spectacular. It is completely worth the wait, hang in there. If you have any questions at all feel free to post them and I will be more than happy to give you my two cents. GO TESLA!!

Tesla229 | 20 ottobre 2012


Thanks for the review and for confirming what I already strongly believe - this car is a REVOLUTIONARY GAME CHANGER!

Question - Have you set up & used Homelink yet? If so, how dificult was it?

Amos' Tesla | 20 ottobre 2012

Yes I have set up Homelink. I have heard others have had issues but mine worked without a hitch.very easy to program. I have two different openers one really old and one new one with the rolling codes. Both work better (farther away) than my old Homelink or the original clickers.

sbern18 | 20 ottobre 2012

What sort of charging setup do you have (I had nema 14-50 on 90 amp line put in)? How's that going? You mentioned b&h, are you in ny?


Amos' Tesla | 20 ottobre 2012

I've got the Nema 14-50 installed as well but on a 50amp. Works great. I've run down to yellow under 40 miles left and it said 5 hours to charge. I ordered the keychain (olympus camera strap) online from B&H.

Brian H | 20 ottobre 2012

There's another source for presized Model S mats:

CurrieG | 20 ottobre 2012

Great info... Also great to hear you are so happy with it, even with some minor issues.

Tâm | 20 ottobre 2012

Hi Amos,

Thanks for the great report.

What sound system do you have? Can you hear the crystalline sharp treble and the rumbling thundering vibrating bass, yes, the sound that makes your lungs vibrate as well?

Tomas | 20 ottobre 2012

I too would highly recommend that anybody looking at the Model S get the biggest battery they can afford. If you drive the car the fun way, it chews up the battery range.

Interesting to hear about the wheels. I've been considering switching to the 19" as the 21" wheels are a bit rough for my taste, but handling is indeed great. Based on your comment I'll stick with the 21" ones a while longer to see if I adjust.... Plus they look rad!

Parcel shelf. A cheap, partial, (temporary?) solution to consider: I bought a leather box at Clava online for around 50 bucks that fits ok on the center console that I put all my loose crap in like change, clippers, a pen, etc. not great, but it looks ok and keeps things tidy.

mrspaghetti | 20 ottobre 2012

Not sure I can match your "no ticket" record once I get my car, especially since I plan to not get my front plate installed :)

Amos' Tesla | 20 ottobre 2012

I have not installed the front plate yet. I plan to leave it off until I get told otherwise ;-).

Michael23 | 20 ottobre 2012

I thought this thread would be about how you passed cops, but didn't get tickets due to it being so quiet vs loud sports cars ;)


And 21s rock! They are not rough at all compared to cars I've driven with smaller rims.

Amos' Tesla | 20 ottobre 2012

Tam I have the upgraded sound system. It sounds great and the latest software upgrade was a nice enhancement as the volume control was definitely too coarse before the latest upgrade. I rate myself an 8 on the audiophile meter and I'd rate the system about the same. In fairness I have not really spent the time to tweak it much.

Superliner | 20 ottobre 2012

When you leave all in the dust from the stoplight or ??, there is no noise to attract the attention of the police. You're gone before they notice you left lol!! Enjoy!! the drive!!

Brian H | 20 ottobre 2012

Amos' Tesla;
Do you have the "weak rear speakers" issue? Some have tied it to using Dolby vs. non-Dolby. TM is at work on the matter, it seems.

Brian H | 20 ottobre 2012

To attract appropriate attention, lean on your horn as you pass the cop cars! And maybe turn on the 4-ways.

Tâm | 20 ottobre 2012

Thanks Amos on your report on the upgraded sound system.

On another note, did you try generic J1772 public charging? The concern is whether the Tesla adaptor or cable could be disconnected by pranksters during a generic public charging.

J1772 cars (Volt, Leaf...) lock the connections to prevent unauthorized disconnection in the middle of charging.

joepruitt | 20 ottobre 2012

The adapters that plug into the Model-S have a lock on them so when the car is locked, the plug cannot be removed. For the J1772 connection, you use the public line and connect that to a plug adapter that locks into the Model-S. So, someone could theoretically disconnect the cable but your adapter would stay attached to the car. Hope that makes sense...

kisspg10 | 20 ottobre 2012

How is the trunk lighting at night?

Amos' Tesla | 20 ottobre 2012

Trunk has three lights two in either rear corner and one on the hatchback that points down into trunk when open. Frunk has one light in front pointing toward back. Ample light in both spaces at night.

Back speakers work but not as robust as front.

Tâm | 20 ottobre 2012

Hi Joe:

I am glad that I don't need to order additional J1772 adapters for my fear of unauthorized removal during public charging.

Thanks for the explanation.

Soflauthor | 21 ottobre 2012

The other day I was parked and an officer of the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Department rolled up and stopped. He got out and asked me what kind of car I had, and then a bunch of other questions about the Model S. Like most first timers, he loved the door handles and the display,

At one point he asked, "Is it fast?"

I smiled, and answered that the Model S could beat an M5 off the line from 0 to 100. He raised his eyebrows, and then laughing, said, "Follow the posted speed limits, sir."

"Have a good day, officer," I said.

Volker.Berlin | 21 ottobre 2012

Dry cleaning, what you say? Well I picked mine up the other day and surprise, surprise no little hook in the back ceiling. I’ll survive. (Amos' Tesla)

No Jesus handle in the back row that could serve to hook the hanger?

Oaktowner | 21 ottobre 2012

Volker.Berlin - your knowledge of American colloquialisms is as impressive of your recall of what's been discussed on forums, in shareholder calls, etc.!

Captain_Zap | 21 ottobre 2012


I wonder if Volker.Berlin is smiling like a mule eating briars right now.

Ohms.Law | 21 ottobre 2012

+1 Oaktowner. VB IS impressive. He is not be trifled with! :-)

Volker.Berlin | 22 ottobre 2012

Oaktowner, thank you, I owe much of it to these forums! That's another welcome excuse for my spending too much time here -- it's a great opportunity to learn idioms that are not taught in text books.

Captain_Zap, thank you very much for another one! Not sure if it will stick with my active vocabulary, but you framed(?)/nailed(?) my reaction very nicely. :-)

Brian H | 22 ottobre 2012

Heh. That's a real "regionalism". Probably never heard outside of the SE before. ;)

Read the Uncle Remus stories for a few more.

kk | 27 ottobre 2012

I was pulled over last week in my Model S, but not for speeding....The cops wanted to check out the car! I let them see the control screens, popped the frunk, showed them the door handles, answered endless questions about speed and torque. Interestingly they said that their database didn't have the car in it yet in CA, which seems strange. I hope that doesn't mean I will keep getting pulled over.

Michael23 | 27 ottobre 2012

They pulled you over just to look? That's a lame abuse of power. I'd be pissed.

TikiMan | 27 ottobre 2012


You should have said...

"This is a TOP SECRET CIA vehicle! You weren't supposed to see this, however, now that you have, I will need to take your badge numbers down to get you a security clearance. Now, please let your department know that if you see this silent vehicle speeding, it means I am on my way to a VERY IMPORTANT meeting with TOP Pentagon officials of nation security issues! Thus, it is in your ‘best interest’ to just ignore me, or any other vehicles of this type! Thank you for your Patriotism.”

tork | 27 ottobre 2012

They probably pulled him over because it was coming up as unregistered. Perfectly legitimate reason to pull someone over

pilotSteve | 27 ottobre 2012

Tikiman +10000 :)

Brian H | 27 ottobre 2012

All that, with a straight face? Betcha can't.

Teoatawki | 28 ottobre 2012

One always seems to think of these responses just a little too late. But a good one!

Brian H | 27 novembre 2012

Volker.Berlin | October 21, 2012
No Jesus handle in the back row that could serve to hook the hanger?

I read somewhere that one originated in Scandinavia! Very pious lot, there.

Have you achieved you first ticket yet? We're up to 2 months now!

BYT | 27 novembre 2012

I asked about the missing handle. Elon hates them and so you shouldn't expect to see them ever in a Tesla Motors built car. Like how Steve Jobs felt about buttons.

Volker.Berlin | 28 novembre 2012

So the ultimate question is: Where does Elon put his coat?

Vawlkus | 28 novembre 2012

On his back of course :P

gooshjkc | 28 novembre 2012

Just wondering if anyone that already own the Model S, if they can shed some light on the range. I currently own a Porsche and putting the final touches on my Model S design, but I still have concerns on range. The car is lacking a lot of things my Porsche has, but I can live with that. The one thing I think I can live without but wouldn't want to is speed. I drive on a daily basis about 160 miles (mostly interstate) going on average 85 MPH. Now, I'm getting the Performance version, which has the largest battery and claims by Tesla to go 300 Miles. However, I'm just wondering with the distance I'm traveling and at the speed I'm traveling if it can make it.

Vawlkus | 28 novembre 2012

Going 85 it becomes a bit touch and go unless you can charge at either end.

mrspaghetti | 28 novembre 2012


Take a look at this blog post re: Model S range & efficiency.

Peter Spirgel | 28 novembre 2012

@gooshjkc I have the performance version and my experience on highway range is around 230 miles at average speed of 75+. Note, if you don't charge in Range Mode, this number drops to around 210. Tesla does not reccommend that you charge in Range Mode every day as it effects battery life. Assuming you start with a full charge every morning, you should be fine and have at least 20-30 miles of range to spare. Remember, even if you don't have a charging station at work, if there is a 120v outlet (within 15ft of where you can park) you'll gain around 4-5 miles of range an hour. Multiply that by 8 hrs and you have an additional 30+ miles of range. The car drives very nicely on the highway and the acceleration is fantastic - even for someone used to a Porsche!

mrspaghetti | 28 novembre 2012

@Peter Spirgel

That might work, but personally I'd hate to have to plug in all the time just to make sure I have enough range to make my daily commute. I'd say the Model S is pushing it for the drive gooshjkc is describing - especially after a couple years as the battery degrades.

Per the chart at the link I posted above, if you extrapolate to 85 miles/hr it looks like about 180 mile range for the Model S, and that's at ideal conditions.

Volker.Berlin | 28 novembre 2012

I'd say the Model S is pushing it for the drive gooshjkc is describing - especially after a couple years as the battery degrades. (tesla.mrspaghetti)

On the other hand, it's the ideal commute to make the Model S pay for itself within no time... Unless I missed something, gooshjkc did not state explicitly whether it's 160 mi each way or round trip. If it's round trip -- no problem at all!

mrspaghetti | 28 novembre 2012


I wouldn't say that 20 miles to spare under ideal conditions is "no problem at all". I suspect gooshjkc will be very unhappy if he finds that the conditions of his drive are not ideal, not to mention that he may occasionally have to make an unplanned trip.

Volker.Berlin | 28 novembre 2012

tesla.mrspaghetti, I agree. Let me put it differently: I wouldn't hesitate to use the Model S for that commute! :-)

What are less-than-ideal conditions? Weather, construction work, detour? In any of these events, speed will be lower than usual, which immediately gives you considerable additional range. So, yes, that kind of commute is pushing it a bit, but I would definitely prefer the Model S for that drive over any gasoline car.

mrspaghetti | 28 novembre 2012


What are less-than-ideal conditions?

Well, here is what the blog says are "ideal" conditions:

Vehicle speed is by far the largest variable in the range you can achieve. In order to help customers plan and predict this we will share a computer model used to simulate how far a Model S is predicted to travel under the following conditions:

Constant speed (such as using cruise control)
Flat ground, no wind
Climate control OFF or using vent only (no heat or air conditioning)
300 lbs of vehicle load (driver plus passenger or cargo)
Windows up, sunroof closed
Tires inflated to recommended pressures
New battery pack (<1 year, <25,000 miles)

So wind, hills, open windows/sunroof and/or use of AC would be enough to possibly leave you on the side of the road. Have that happen a couple times (or even once) and you might not prefer it over a gas car anymore :)

mrspaghetti | 28 novembre 2012

Oops, sorry about the formatting...

gooshjkc | 28 novembre 2012

Thanks for everyone that responded to my concerns. It puts a lot of my concerns to rest. BTW, 160 miles is roundtrip. As long as I can return home is all I care about. On days when I know I will be going further I will take my Porsche. Yes, I'm keeping my Porsche. As much as I am looking forward to my Model S, I still have to have my Porsche. Lastly, on the issue of battery degradation. I'm not too concerned. In a couple of years I will probably trade it out for a new Model S or whatever else they might have then. | 28 novembre 2012

May I suggest substituting "Performance Awards" for the term "Speeding Tickets"? :o)