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Sentry Mode/SSD External Drive

Will an External SSD Drive work with Sentry

jimglas | 24 giugno 2019

yes

TeslaTap.com | 24 giugno 2019

Yes, but must be formatted for FAT32. Also some drives take too much power and need to be powered separately from the USB port. More details here: https://teslatap.com/articles/usb-flash-drives-for-tesla-dashcam/#recomm...

TeslaTap.com | 24 giugno 2019

Also dashcam features are for HW2.5 vehicles and later. If you have a HW2.0 car- then don't bother with a drive - it won't do anything, but Sentry mode will still work.

mbp11 | 25 giugno 2019

I use a USB drive formatted to FAT32 with my mac and set up the teslacam folder and it works well... the only problem is that it saves so dammed many photos that periodically I have to take the drive out and plug it into the computer and view and erase all of the movies that have nothing going on in them. Then I erase them and put the usb drive back in.

for music, I do use an iPod classic that plugs into the USB drive, but....

I took at 160 GB Ipod classic and upgraded it to an 240 gb hard drive and then plugged my iPod into the UCB port and of course, it is not recognized. What I did to get it to work is to command iTunes to enable hard drive use, and then erase the drive and the manually drop in all of my music until it was filled up. Since each AAC or MP3 has metadata encoded, the iPod keeps track of that and when you plug it into the USB connector (at least in the model X, the front USB drive, which are data enabled) the music shows up and you can sort by album, artist, song, genre, and other data. It works pretty well but I have not figured out how to do a playlist on it yet.

Something interesting for you to fool with. Your Mileage May Vary

TeslaTap.com | 25 giugno 2019

@mbp11 - Good info. I do recommend 128 GB or larger, so you don't have to clean off the drive so often. With 128 GB, it should go a month or two.

No playlists yet for the USB connection.

nipper2 | 26 giugno 2019

@Tesla Tap How does the raspberry pi work? What is it's function?

TeslaTap.com | 26 giugno 2019

@nipper2 - I've not set up a raspberry Pi configuration. The idea is to record the video into a Pi (a low-end CPU) that can then save the video periodically to a seperate location, eliminating the 1 hour recording limit. Other features might include transferring the video to the cloud or a local server when it gets a WiFi connection - similar to how BlackVue dashcams work today.

nipper2 | 27 giugno 2019

@Tesla-Tap have you ever reformatted an SSD from exFAT to FAT32?

nipper2 | 27 giugno 2019

@Tesla-Tap have you ever reformatted an SSD from exFAT to FAT32?

TeslaTap.com | 27 giugno 2019

@nipper2 - Yep, quite easy, but Windows built in utilities can't do it. There are several products that can do this. I use Paragon's Hard Disk Manager 15, which allows you to set FAT32. It will give you a warning that Windows doesn't officially support FAT32 beyond 32 GB, but you can ignore the warning. More info here: https://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-windows/

Another well regarded partitioning product comes from Acronis, but I've not tried it.

There are some free partitioning products, but I'm reluctant to recommend one I haven't tried, and most seem to be China based, which concerns me.

lafunik | 28 giugno 2019

This is possible, but there are a few difficulties. You need to format it to the format Fat 32. It will consume energy, you can see in your documents the exact expense. Here I can advise Power Bank if energy consumption is critical, it will depend on your consumption.

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nipper2 | 28 giugno 2019

@TeslaTap.com, @lafunik Thank You both I purchased Sandisk 256GB and it had Fat32 on it. So now I purchased 1TB SSD and I will try and convert to FAT32 if I am successful I will than go for 2TB.

nipper2 | 28 giugno 2019

@TeslaTap.com, @lafunik Thank You both I purchased Sandisk 256GB and it had Fat32 on it. So now I purchased 1TB SSD and I will try and convert to FAT32 if I am successful I will than go for 2TB.

nipper2 | 6 luglio 2019

@TeslaTap.com I formatted the 1TB SSD to Fat32 BUT is says there is only 59GB available

TeslaTap.com | 6 luglio 2019

@nipper2 - What says there is 59 GB available - the car or the PC you formatted it on? In either case, sounds like something is wrong. With a SSD, it may be you have multiple partitions? If so, delete the partitions and create one large 1 TB partition.

I've formatted 128 and 256 GB drives to FAT32, and I think the limit is around 2TB for FAT32.

nipper2 | 6 luglio 2019

@TeslaTap.com So I was wrong I reformatted the SSD from exFat to NFTS now I have to figure out how to format to Fat32. It's Saying I have 931GB but like I said I now have to figure out how to reformat to Fat32

TeslaTap.com | 7 luglio 2019

Yep, the standard Windows utilities don't handle FAT32 on drives >32 GB. See my post further above on options to use to format FAT32. Perhaps Paragon or Acronis offer a trial version of their partitioning software (which does formats too). I know Paragon handles FAT32 on hard drives.

nipper2 | 7 luglio 2019

@TeslaTap.com Thanks I think I will check with Paragon

nipper2 | 8 luglio 2019

@TeslaTap.com Done! I found a free down Load AOME it took 10 seconds Thanks and was able to keep the 1 GB

rmfpdx | 12 luglio 2019

I hope someone can tell me how exactly an SSD gets connected to the 3. I'm looking at this Patriot 2.5" 480 Gb SSD drive (https://www.frys.com/product/9621473?nearbyStoreName=false&site=frilandi...) and have no idea how it would be connected to the car. Could someone give me a clue? Thanks!

TeslaTap.com | 12 luglio 2019

There are cases that may have a USB connection, but most bare SSD drives such as the one you selected do not. You really want a SSD that connects directly to USB like one of these: https://amzn.to/2LQu3LA or https://amzn.to/2E7jD46. Hope his helps.

rmfpdx | 12 luglio 2019

Thank you very much. That is super helpful.

acosta.lorraine.m | 15 luglio 2019

Is a Samsung 500GB T5 SSD over kill? Amazon has it on sale for $79.00. I just thought I wouldn’t have to worry about constantly erasing due to drive filling up. Thoughts?

TeslaTap.com | 15 luglio 2019

500 GB has some advantages. I think you're talking about this drive: https://amzn.to/2lAqnkF

1) The drive size directly relates to lifetime. All flash drives fail eventually after X number of writes. The larger the drive the longer this takes. For example, a 512 GB drive will last 4 times longer than a 128 GB drive.

2) As for filling up, it's much harder to pin down, as everyone's Sentry mode records a different amount of data depending on what is happening around the car. A very rough guideline is each 128 GB of memory should last 1-2 months before you need to erased saved Sentry data. You can extend this by turning on the option to disable Sentry mode at home.

I also think this is a short term issue, as I expect Tesla to allow sentry mode to record round-robin so it never runs out of space for new video. Meanwhile, we need to clear off Sentry data before the drive fills up, or the dashcam stops recording. It could be 6 months or more before Tesla correct this, so having a larger drive is handy.

mbp11 | 15 luglio 2019

good advice from TeslaTap

acosta.lorraine.m | 15 luglio 2019

Thanks for the help

interbay | 16 luglio 2019

TeslaTap, you wrote this early in this thread:

Also dashcam features are for HW2.5 vehicles and later. If you have a HW2.0 car- then don't bother with a drive - it won't do anything, but Sentry mode will still work.

Can you explain that, please? I took deliver of my car 2 years ago (today!), a 100D MX, so I believe it is a HW2.0 car. I can turn the Sentry Mode on, see the icon on my screen and my app says it is on when I leave the car. But I have no idea how I would access video if I needed it (I think you are saying that a thumb drive won't work in my HW version?). I had the car in for its two-year service a week ago and asked 3 different employees there how to make the Sentry Mode work . . . . all of them said it would, but none could explain or show me.

TeslaTap.com | 16 luglio 2019

For a HW2.0 car, Sentry mode functions like a HW2.5 or later car BUT you do not get the dashcam feature or any recording of activity to a USB flash drive.

Sentry mode will monitor activity around your car and if some one approaches without the fob, it activates the screen. If a locked door is opened, the alarm sounds and the audio system blares a loud sounds. There is no recording going (even though it says so on the screen). Think of it as a psychological advantage, as the thief does not know if it is recording or not and may skip breaking into your car. Still it may be wise to get a real dashcam. Here's my recommendations: https://teslatap.com/articles/ultimate-tesla-dashcam-guide/

interbay | 17 luglio 2019

Thanks TeslaTap! Now it makes sense to me.

Prior to Sentry Mode coming out I used to see notices of Calibred coming to town (from lilbean) and wrote to them about scheduling an installation . . . . but never heard back. I don't see those messages anymore, which makes sense, so guess I will contact them directly again to see if they still visit Seattle. I appreciate the explanation and your guide!