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Cup Holders and Arm Rests???

Cup Holders and Arm Rests???

I was able to place my order before I even test drove the Model S. After test driving it, I can't believe I am buying a $90,000+ car with only 2 cup holders that are in such an ackward place. My first car 20 years ago at least had a few more cup holders and a rear seat arm rest....

archibaldcrane | 2012年9月11日

They are currently designing advanced center console options that can be installed even after you take delivery. Your cupholder concerns will be solved soon.

Alex K | 2012年9月11日

I like how Porsche has done their cup holders. For example, in the Panamera, there is a single cup holder in the front center console, but they have some hidden cup holders nicely stashed:

http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/2011-panamera-owners-manual/vid/39-2...

Epley | 2012年9月11日

I, too, had a moment of panic when I realized my $100k car was only going to have 2 cup holders, none in back, and no glove box or storage area.

I'm sure that 3rd parties like soflauthor will fill the void, and I know tesla is working on this, too.

Teoatawki | 2012年9月11日

@epley

I don't know where you got the notion that there was no glove box.

There is definitely a glove box. I know this because a new owner reported finding his "missing" printed owners manual in the glove box.

Beaker | 2012年9月11日

I'm going to love the ability to tell my kids no drinks in the back seat, there are no cup holders back there. If... er... I mean, when they complain I'll tell them to write a proper business letter to George & Elon...

Kids's aren't about to do that so:

BAM, battle won, backseats & carpet stays clean. ;)

Volker.Berlin | 2012年9月11日

They are currently designing advanced center console options that can be installed even after you take delivery. Your cupholder concerns will be solved soon. (archibaldcrane)

Evidence, e.g., here:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/email-george-blankenship-his-res...

I, too, had a moment of panic when I realized my $100k car was only going to have 2 cup holders, none in back, and no glove box or storage area. (epley)

You are right that there is a general lack of storage where we came to expect it: In the doors, in the backs of the seats, and in the center console. There is however a glove box, and it is just your run-of-the-mill glove box in size, shape, form and location. One of the only two physical buttons on the center stack is dedicated to opening the glove box... The other one is operating the hazard lights.

Which reminds me of another question that would need an answer from an owner, I guess: Is that button opening the glove box by a physical or electronic connection? If it's the latter, we could expect software upgrades to the glove box, like, valet-mode locking.

loisascott | 2012年9月12日

checked with Tesla, valet mode is coming in software release. I think they said soon. (sorry don't remember exactly the time frame)

Volker.Berlin | 2012年9月12日

loisascott, thank you for getting back so quickly. Just to be sure, let me be very specific: What exactly is covered by "valet mode"? I'd expect that they cut down power (acceleration, speed). Did someone explicitly mention the glove box in this context?

ggr | 2012年9月12日

Oh NO! I just realized my Roadster only has ONE cupholder!

iholtzman | 2012年9月12日

Has anyone noticed the armrests are different heights? The one on the door is lower than the one on the counsel. They should be the same height. Perhaps Tesla can build up one or reuce the height on the other. They are the same height in my Phaeton. I did spend a fair amount of time in the car today and there is a glovebox.

impliedconsent | 2012年9月12日

whoops - can you imagine this as a deal breaker? ... holy crap ... yep, 'cuz my kids would come down on you hard. I'll wait for the built-in redesign.

Brian H | 2012年9月12日

ggr;
So who has time to drink coffee in a car that gets goosed every few seconds minutes?

petero | 2012年9月12日

I can't believe this is still an active subject for discussion -enough already! Most of us are unhappy with
a few of the interior treatments. TM is working on remedies. Please rest assured, the console and rear cup holders will probably be accessories that you can buy. Perhaps in "S 2.0" they will be standard equipment.

If that isn't enough, the after market will provide all sorts of creative solutions. Personally, I am holding out for James Bond (007) passenger ejector seat and the front machine guns.

ThomasN | 2012年9月12日

What would be really telling is a poll asking if you would prefer the current cup holders or none. I'd honestly vote for none.... And then opt for an opportunity console. The current configuration is ridiculous. The cup holders are too small, too close together, and too far back. The rest of the car is so amazingly well designed, it's hard to imagine what they were thinking. It's worse than the access of the third row in an SUV.

Michael23 | 2012年9月12日

Yeah the cups hit each other too so you can't really fit two, but I'd rather cover them up with the armrests anyway.

Volker.Berlin | 2012年9月13日

Well maybe you cannot fit two American super sized cups, but at least you can fit one and a bottle:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/travel/1209_tesla_model_s_las_vegas/l...

Thank god coffee is so expensive at Starbucks that usually we go with the small to medium sized cups... ;-)

vouteb | 2012年9月13日

European coffee is stronger/better hence the smaller cups!

:)

Captain_Zap | 2012年9月13日

In many parts of Europe I couldn't get a cup of coffee to-go anywhere.
Instead, I was forced to take my time and enjoy it in a nice demitasse.

Volker.Berlin | 2012年9月13日

Captain_Zap, I agree, life over here is spartan and cumbersome... :-)

Brian H | 2012年9月13日

VB;
I notice the bottle has to sit crooked to fit in! 2 cups would be out of the question.

Klaus | 2012年9月13日

I drink my coffee black. I wouldn't touch a cup of Starbuck's if it were free. Worst coffee I have ever tasted. No wonder they have to dump all that crap into it to make it taste better.

jerry3 | 2012年9月13日

Their hot chocolate isn't bad though. (Not that I go there more than once every two-three years)

Klaus | 2012年9月13日

@jerry3, agree.

BYT | 2012年9月14日

I don't mind the Chai, but even that is ehh at Starcrook's.

Rod and Barbara | 2012年9月14日

@ Volker - The opening of the glove box appears to be electronic.

wbrown01 | 2012年11月17日

Please can we have an Update on the Factory "Opportunity Console". When will we see the final product? When will it be ready?

sergiyz | 2012年11月17日

Asked them today at the store, not before Q1 2013 or even later.

TikiMan | 2012年11月17日

The current cup holder, holds my tripple-espresso shots, in my to-go cup perfectly! As long as I have that, and an center arm-rest, I am good to go!

dahtye | 2012年11月17日

Any update on the rear seat armrest and cup holder accessory?

TikiMan | 2012年11月18日

The current armrest work great, thus I don't think that will be updated with the 'Opportunity Console'.

nickjhowe | 2012年11月18日

Soflauthor met with George B to discuss the CCI. There may be a convergence of ideas/product.

Brian H | 2012年11月18日

nick;
A bit late in the game for versions 1.0, but ...

wbrown01 | 2012年11月21日

I emailed TM and their reply was:

The Opportunity Console is currently under review by our executive team. After review, if no changes are needed it would be going into production. I do not have a final timeline for its completion at this time. Opportunity Consoles would be available for purchase from our Service centers and would not need to be a factory installed option. In fact, our intent is that for ease of use and customizability, they would be removable and easily interchangeable.

So I guess we don't know when but maybe by the spring, I hope.

bsimoes | 2012年11月22日

Perhaps, to put an end to the (rear) cupholder issue, someone should post a question on the bulletin board.

lolachampcar | 2012年11月22日

This is fantastic. A brand new totally novel ground up inovative product is being produced by a cash tight start up taking on the titans of the industry (Audi, BMW, MB, etc....) and it is taking hits for cup holders.

Tesla, read this as VERY good news :)

Volker.Berlin | 2012年11月22日

bill +1 :-)

Brian H | 2012年11月22日

"Ya, ya. You've got the best car and the best value for $ in the biz. Great.

Now, about those cupholders and vanity mirrors and junkholders ...."

bobinfla | 2012年11月22日

We will NOT let our cupholders go without a fight. My Mazda Miata hit the right ratio - twice as many cupholders as seats. Now if only they hadn't blown it with sun visors that don't pivot to the side.............

mrspaghetti | 2012年11月22日

Deal breaker, definitely.

Brian H | 2012年11月22日

"Waddya mean no cupholders? Waddya think we are, German??"

sergiyz | 2012年11月22日

don't drink and drive ;)

nickjhowe | 2012年11月22日

@mrspaghet - agree completely. I think I'm going to give my Model S away in protest.

KevinR.co.us | 2012年11月22日

Will the cupholders be required to be smaller in New York? :o)

mrspaghetti | 2012年11月22日

@sergiyz
don't drink and drive ;)

But if you have the air suspension, you have less of a chance of spilling your drink if you hit a bump.

Brian H | 2012年11月23日

For a real smoothness test, drink beer from the bottle, with a straw.

Timo | 2012年11月23日

You need hands free system for cars, so straw and bottle doesn't work. You need one of those beerhats one can spot on sport events. That could double as cupholder. Maybe Tesla could add one in their stores.

Volker.Berlin | 2012年11月23日

Timo, forget about it. Not enough headroom. :-P

Brian H | 2012年11月23日

One hand for the bottle, one for the wheel ... what's the problem? Of course, the bottle may be too cold. But ale should be drunk warm anyway. Lager is OK, but boring. Guinness, on the other hand, is good for you.

Jolinar | 2013年1月24日

hey, I just found great idea how to live without cup holders :)

I am 3146 | 2013年1月24日

One nice thing about the two cup holders that are in my new S are that Tesla made them with a sliding cover. Great for those times when I want to hide something when parking in public. When covered they just blend into the interior.

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