To qualify for the US Federal Tax Credit

To qualify for the US Federal Tax Credit

"To qualify for the US Federal Tax Credit, the new vehicle must be purchased by the taxpayer, and not purchased for resale. The credit is applied when the taxpayer completes their annual tax forms. Qualification is contingent on Adjusted Gross Income."

Can we start some research on this?

I have a very gloomy feeling that the kind of people who can afford a Tesla will not be getting this Tax credit due to the last sentence. meaning, if you can afford one, you don't deserve a tax credit.

Let's start researching this people. This could make or break a lot of people's ability to get this car.

Help please.

Longhorn92 | 2011年12月21日

I've looked at the IRS return forms and instructions, and there doesn't seem to be an upper AGI limit on the rebate. I am guessing that the "contingent on Adjusted Gross Income" refers to a low AGI (i.e. if you don't have an AGI high enough to pay at least $7,500 in taxes, then you don't get the full $7,500 in rebate). Again, just a guess, but so far, I really don't see an reason a high AGI wouldn't get the full rebate.

Discoducky | 2011年12月21日

Reposting link to the law as it currently stands:

There are several links to read....

Basically, if you do your taxes and you don't owe more than $7500 then you won't get the full credit.

There are several changes in the law that are being discussed but they mostly favor either increasing the refund or applying at purchase.

I'm not worried about the refund as the only other thing that is a remote possibility is that the 200K EV limit is reached.

Scwins | 2011年12月21日


To be certified for the credit by the manufacturer, the vehicle must meet the following requirements:

* The vehicle must be made by a manufacturer (i.e., it doesn't include conventional vehicles converted to electric drive).
* It must be treated as a motor vehicle for purposes of title II of the Clean Air Act.
* It must have a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of not more than 14,000 lbs.
* It must be propelled to a significant extent by an electric motor which draws electricity from a battery which
o has a capacity of not less than 4 kilowatt hours and
o is capable of being recharged from an external source of electricity.

The following requirements must also be met for a certified vehicle to qualify:

* The original use of the vehicle commences with the taxpayer—it must be a new vehicle.
* The vehicle is acquired for use or lease by the taxpayer, and not for resale. (The credit is only available to the original purchaser of a new, qualifying vehicle. If a qualifying vehicle is leased to a consumer, the leasing company may claim the credit.)
* The vehicle is used mostly in the United States.
* The vehicle must be placed in service by the taxpayer during or after the 2010 calendar year.

For vehicles acquired for personal use, report the credit from Form 8936Adobe Acrobat Icon on the appropriate line of your Form 1040, U.S. Individual Income Tax ReturnAdobe Acrobat Icon.

For vehicles purchased in 2010 or later, this credit can be used toward the alternative minimum tax (AMT).
(This IS INTERESTING because it means (I think) that it can go down as a non-preference item which is significant)

If the qualifying vehicle is purchased for business use, the credit for the business use of an electric vehicle is reported on Form 3800Adobe Acrobat Icon, General Business Credit.

Plug-in Electric Vehicles (IRC 30)

Internal Revenue Code Section 30 provides a credit for qualified plug-in electric vehicles. The credit is equal to 10 percent of the cost of a qualified plug-in electric vehicle and is limited to $2,500. Qualified vehicles may include low-speed vehicles or vehicles that have two or three wheels.

Vehicles must be acquired after February 17, 2009, and before January 1, 2012. The vehicle must be acquired for use or lease and not for resale. Additionally, the original use of the vehicle must commence with the taxpayer and the vehicle must be used predominantly in the United States.

Hmmm None of the Teslas will be delivered before Jan 1st, 2012. Wondering if there is updated info on this.

Volker.Berlin | 2011年12月21日

Tesla has set up a dedicated area on this website that deals with this tax credit and other EV incentives:

From there, there's the same link that Discoducky posted above, but depending on where you live there may be additional incentives or rebates available.

yujjerry | 2012年8月14日

The purchase and/or lease of a Tesla still qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit. Put the information on Federal Form 8936. TurboTax should be able to do this as well. If anyone has any questions on this, feel free to email me at I don't charge for advice, if that's a question.

gary.greene | 2012年8月15日

Does anyone know if taking the federal tax credit prevents you from depreciating your Tesla for business over the years of ownership if you buy the car and use it for legitimate business related miles. My accountant was unsure if you could take the federal tax credit and deduct business related miles and expenses on your purchase of a Tesla (versus only one of these options)? Please advise.

bsimoes | 2012年8月15日

"There are several changes in the law that are being discussed but they mostly favor either increasing the refund or applying at purchase."
This would make life a whole lot easier! Discoducky, do you know any more info on this...predictions of time frame?

EdG | 2012年8月15日

@gary.greene: what if your car Appreciates in value? :)

Another question: can you depreciate assuming the full purchase price, or must you start after the 7500 rebate?

yujjerry | 2012年9月18日

Just finished my 9/15 busy tax season (for extended LLCs, S-corps, C-corps, trusts, and partnerships).

To gary.greene: the credit does not prevent you from deducting vehicle expenses on the car. It would be just like deducting expenses on any other vehicle - either claim expenses using the mileage method ($0.51 per biz mile) or the actual expense method. Your accountant will know which to claim and the ramifications for claiming one or the other method (i.e., if you choose one method, you can't choose the other in future years, or how to protect yourself in an audit when claiming auto expenses).

To EdG: you would use the full purchase price minus the $7500 credit, and then use this difference to calculate depreciation.

tskn | 2012年10月2日

Does anyone know what circumstance one would not qualify for the tax credit?

ggr | 2012年10月2日

As far as I know, the only way not to qualify is to not need to pay tax. Usually that is because of low income. :-)

Teoatawki | 2012年10月2日

Just to clarify: it is based on your overall tax liability, not the bottom line after crediting withholding and prepayments.

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月2日

Qualifying for the credit is really not the issue; it's owing enough tax for the credit to offset.

BYT | 2012年10月2日

I spoke to my tax lawyer and he helped me file a new W4 in order to make sure I would qualify for the tax credit when we file by April 2013.

BYT | 2012年10月2日

Sorry, he's not a lawyer, he's a preparer. I don't have a tax lawyer... :)

nhurst | 2012年10月2日

As I understand it, your W4 has nothing to do with the tax credit. Am I missing something?

Schlermie | 2012年10月2日

I think what he meant was that since he knows he'll be getting a $7.5k tax credit, he won't need to have as much taken out of his paycheck throughout the year, so he filed the W4 to have his withholding adjusted.

jackhub | 2012年10月2日

it is straight forward. Don't over analyze it. If your total Federal Income tax is $7500 or more, then you qualify for a $7500 tax credit. That means the total federal income taxes you owe are reduced by $7500. If your tax liability was paid through withholding, you get a refund. If not, your taxes owed are reduced by that amount.

The only qualification is that you have taxes to be reduced!

DouglasR | 2012年10月2日

Also, the credit can't be carried forward, so if you don't owe $7,500 in the year you purchase the car, you lose what you can't use.

astraussmd | 2012年10月2日

The tax credit for my 2010 Roadster was a grand $47.00 > the more your income, the less you qualify for - unless your name is Romney.

BYT | 2012年10月3日

Whatever the case, I have enough things to worry about! Since I seem to get audited every year (thanks Dad for claiming me as a dependent to trigger that IRS flag by the way in 2007), I tell my tax preparer everything and have him adjust it all for me. Piece of mind is a wonderful thing.

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月3日 - Ignored your political snipe, but are you saying there are Adjusted Gross Income limits to the Plug-In Electric Vehicle Credit? Could you elaborate... Thanks.

mrspaghetti | 2012年10月3日

@astraussmd: Yes, please elaborate. Because what you're suggesting contradicts all the information I've seen on this from everyone else - including some people who apparently are CPAs.

Teoatawki | 2012年10月3日

There is no income limit (currently) on the EV credit.

olanmills | 2012年10月4日

I see no mention of income affecting the credit here:

And while I didn't read it word-for-ford, I don't see it here either:

The buying a Model S will give you a tax credit of $7,500. According to, there are many more nonnrefundable tax credits than refundable tax credits, but I have never actaully heard of a nonrefundable tax credit before looking this up. The only examples they list are refundable tax credits.

I'm assuming that that this EV credit is a refundable credit, like the home buying credit. Even if it was nonrefundable, it probably wouldn't make a difference for anyone who can afford to buy a Model S anyways.

Let's assume you buy a Model S in 2012.

So if it's a 'refundable' tax credit:

Example A
-Say in 2012, you owe $25,000 in taxes.
-But you have already paid $30,000 in taxes via witholding
-ordinarily, you would get a $5,000 refund, netting a total of $25,000 paid to the IRS
-however, with the EV credit, your tax liability will be reduced from $25,000 to just $17,500. So now you actually overpaid by $12,500
-so you would get a refund of $12,500, and the IRS only got $17,500 instead of the nominal $25,000

Examble B
-Say in 2012, you owe $2,000 in taxes
-But you already paid $3,000 in taxes via withholding
-ordinarily, you would get a $1,000 refund, netting a total of $2,000 paid to the IRS
-however, with the refundable EV credit, the extra $7500 is treated like a payment that you already made to the IRS. So now, it's like you owed them $2,000 (that's the same), but you paid them $10,500
-so you would get a refund of $8,500

So if it's a 'NONrefundable' tax credit:

Example C
-Say in 2012, you owe $25,000 in taxes.
-But you have already paid $30,000 in taxes via witholding
-ordinarily, you would get a $5,000 refund, netting a total of $25,000 paid to the IRS
-however, with the EV credit, your tax liability will be reduced from $25,000 to just $17,500. So now you actually overpaid by $12,500
-so you would get a refund of $12,500, and the IRS only got $17,500 instead of the nominal $25,000
-Note that this is the same result as Example A, above

Examble D
-Say in 2012, you owe $2,000 in taxes
-But you already paid $3,000 in taxes via withholding
-ordinarily, you would get a $1,000 refund, netting a total of $2,000 paid to the IRS
-however, with the nonrefundable EV credit, your tax liability is reduced by $7,500, but it can't go negative.
- $2,000 - $7500 ~=~ $0 || So now, it's like you owed them $0, but you already $3,000
-so you would get a refund of $3,000.
-In this case, you get a different result than Example B, above


In other words, assuming there is no special language in the EV credit law itself that modifies the credit based on total income or some other criteria, than the EV tax credit is either a standard refundable credit or standard nonrefundable credit. The distinction won't make any difference to anyone who has a nominal tax of $7500 or more (that is, before deductions, adjustments, credits, etc, your tax bill from the IRS is $7500 or more).

Teoatawki | 2012年10月4日

It is a non refundable credit.

C & D are correct. Plus any "balance" as in case D, the $5500 you couldn't use for the tax year cannot be rolled over and just goes away.

Sudre_ | 2012年10月4日

I never really thought there were people with such a low tax burden that could afford the Model S. I think the 2012 tax table indicate that if you make over $35,350 your tax bracket is 25% or minimum $8837.50.
I am impressed with those below that income range who save that well.

pilotSteve | 2012年10月4日

@Sudre_ and some others - consider that some have large carry forward losses from 2008/2009 investments sold at a loss. Or commercial property that has depreciated and produced losses (on paper).

There are lots of "cash flow" issues that can result in some years have negative taxable income hence zero or negative tax liability.

I think its fair and correct that this is a non-refundable credit because it allows tax benefit to be realized (even if only partial as in example D) up to the limit of $7500 or the amount you have paid in.

btw the 2012 tax code with 73,608 pages is bound to create distortions and unintended consequences. Don't get me started on why I would prefer a (mostly) flat tax with minimal deductions...

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月4日

A refundable tax credit is one that will pay you a refund even if you owe no taxes for that refund to offset. An example is the Earned Income Credit for low wage earners with children. Once the exemptions, deductions and other qualified credits are factored in, it's not uncommon for them to owe nothing in taxes. They get all their withholding back as a refund plus the Earned Income Credit added in.

A non-refundable tax credit is one that will offset your tax liability up to the point where you would owe nothing in taxes but no further. For example, if you owe $6000 in taxes and qualify for the $7500 Plug-In Electric Vehicle Credit, it would offset all of the $6000 in owed taxes, but no more. The unused $1500 credit is non-refundable to you, and in this case, cannot be carried forward or backwards to offset your tax liability in future or previous years.

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月4日

Edit - "even if you owe no taxes for that credit to offset."

olanmills | 2012年10月4日

@Sudre_ it's possible for someone to be very wealthy, but make little or no income in a particular year, but yeah you're probably right. I was just providing the example to cover all the bases.

DouglasR | 2012年10月4日

Someone who holds a lot of wealth in tax exempt municipal bonds might owe no taxes yet be able to afford a Tesla.

shop | 2012年10月10日

What if you buy both a Leaf and a Model S in one year ? Can you claim two credits ?

olanmills | 2012年10月10日

It seems like the tax form allows credits for two vehicles:

You enter the allowable credit for both vehicles on line 4 (and line 10).

And then it says you add both of those values together on line 11, so as far as I can tell, yeah, you could claim $15,000 for two cars.

Does anyone see anything that would indicate otherwise?

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月12日

shop@frogandros - We bought a LEAF for my wife last weekend. If the Model S comes before the end of the year (Dec/Jan window), we will claim both in this tax year. My wife and I are both retired and my concern right now is having enough tax liability for $15K to offset, since it cannot be carried forward or applied to previous years. The LEAF purchase was not a planned event. The recent CA gas price spike put her over the edge. As much as I would like to have my Model S sooner rather than later, financially it would be better to put it "in service" Jan 1 and not worry about losing some of the credit.

Brian H | 2012年10月13日

Well, don't claim other deductions which are deferrable (assuming you have some).

mrspaghetti | 2012年10月13日

Or draw some more from your IRA this year to get more tax liability.

stevenmaifert | 2012年10月14日

@tesla.mrspaghet - The IRA draw is a great idea. I hadn't thought of that, and it would work for me if I need it. Thanks for the tip.

Brian H | 2012年10月14日

Then put the S in the IRA as a "collectables" asset? ;)

mrspaghetti | 2012年10月14日


The bill is in the mail :)

jgsuperstar29 | 2014年10月15日

Anyone know if you buy one Model S during the year, then trade it in or sell it, then buy another one, could you still claim 2 x $7500 credits?

I know for the CA (rebate), it's pretty clear you must keep the car for 3 years so clearly one would surrender the $2500 back to CA (but then would get another rebate for the second purchase assuming that one did stick for more than 3 years). But from my research of the Federal Tax guidance, I can't figure out if you have to "give it back" somehow when filling out your tax forms.

Logically I would think you would have to "give the rebate back" but from what I have read, maybe that is not the case.

(This all assumes I make enough income that 15,000 would not more than offset my federal taxes owed).

sberman | 2014年10月15日

@jgsuperstar29, justice prevails ... you cannot legally do what you're asking about.

From IRS Publication 17, one of the requirements of taking the credit is:
"You acquired the vehicle for your use or to lease to others, and not for resale."

Mathew98 | 2014年10月15日

Call your CPA to verify. Technically the first MS is a trade in for the second one. So it is not for resale.

Tesla will deduct the 7500 credit from the trade in car's value in the low ball offer.

Brian H | 2014年10月15日

Disagree. If you trade in, or sell privately after 6 mo, and buy a new one, you take a $7500 hit on the resale, so net net end up with one car and one credit.

Bighorn | 2014年10月15日

You can claim both credits.