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Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

I have a couple long drives I undertake and came up with a list that would be convenient for me. Somehow I think Tesla will take a wider array of people into account :)

Here is where I would like to see them (for my personal convenience of course :) )
North Bay, ON
Barrie, ON
Stratford, ON
Niagara, Falls, ON
Erie, PA
Morgantown, WV
Beckley, WV
Charlotte or Statesville, NC

I actually anticipate Tesla will concentrate their super chargers in/near their hottest U.S. markets (at least initially), but I can dream about them being in more out of the way places.

Where would they suit you best?

phb | 2012年2月15日

No specific places pop into mind necessarily, but I'll tell you the KIND of places that I'd like to see them

- Great places to eat (not just McDonald's parking lots)
- Roadside attractions (like major state parks or monuments where people are likely to stop for a tour or the like)
- Shopping centers (malls, outlet malls, etc)
- Basically any place that might have an alternate activity that I can burn an hour doing

A lot of the charging locations that I've seen so far would be great for charging over time while at work but Super Chargers need to be in places that are attractions in their own right for one reason or another. The times that I will want to Super charge are times when the time it takes to charge matter, which means long drives. I don't need, or even want, a supercharger at work or in my garage or even at my hotel (although 240v 30-50amp would be great), I do want one at the place I would be willing to stop anyway on a long road trip.

Schlermie | 2012年2月15日

100 mile intervals along highways 5 and 101 in California, Yosemite, and South Lake Tahoe.

phb | 2012年2月15日

As an Oregonian I'm insulted that you would stop your installations at the boarder! Besides, it seems to me like a lot of California residents can't manage to stop at the boarder anyway! (okay, really bad joke) I was actually thinking that all up and down the pacific coast highway would be a great idea (along with I-5).

Dennis | 2012年2月15日

i'd like to drive my model s home from CA. so, scattered across the united states to massachusetts about 250 miles apart.

olanmills | 2012年2月15日

Everywhere. No seriously. Gas stations are everywhere.

However, I don't really think this will be all that necessary, since you'll be able to "fill up" every night, but for convenience sake, when you're in a pinch, it would be a great comfort to know that there's always some place nearby you could go.

When millions of people are driving electric cars, somebody's going to build pay-for charging stations, because it will make business sense. I actually think it makes a lot of sense for the gasoline retailers to do it.

cerjor | 2012年2月15日

Half way between LA and Phoenix.

Robert.Boston | 2012年2月16日

+1 Dennis!

There's a glaring hole in the country's EV charging infrastructure across the Great Plains all the way to the Central Valley. Build along the I-20 and I-80 corridors.

Tesla's already conveyed its intention of building out the east coast I-95 corridor, though only from DC to Boston. They should extend that northwards into Maine (a popular skiing and summer vacation destination) and southwards to connect DC to Florida (a popular winter destination). A lot of people maintain homes both in the north and in Florida, and these relatively affluent snowbirds regularly drive the run.

Charged_Up | 2012年2月16日

for sure, someone should get after the government to put banks of chargers in national parks and wildlife refuges. The EV population probably has higher utilization of such locales and you always park for a chunk of time...they can start with the Everglades, particularly the Flamingo Visitor Center, if you don't mind my putting my self-interest first....because that's about as far as you can go in Florida without seeing a gas or charging station....after that, they can put one halfway between Miami and Orlando, where there are already a bunch of chargers....

jbherman | 2012年2月16日

I-70 corridor--points between Denver-KC-St. Louis-Indianapolis-Columbus-Pittsburgh

William9 | 2012年2月16日

I-10, LA to Tucson, and beyond. Maybe Palm Springs/Blythe/Quartzite/Phoenix area.

I-20 would be alright as an alternative.

David70 | 2012年2月16日

With jbherman, but also points to get to Denver from Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, etc.

Volker.Berlin | 2012年2月16日

Definitely in Germany! I came up with seven strategically placed super chargers that could essentially cover the entire country, with distances between them of around 150 to 220 miles. Obviously, they need to be placed alongside the major distance routes, preferably at intersections. Thus when I name cities here, I don't mean "inside the city" but rather at a major interchange close to these cities:

Hamburg (A7/A1)
Hanover (A7/A2)
Berlin (A2, A9, A10, A24)
Kamen (A2/A1)
Hermsdorf (A4/A9)
Würzburg (A3/A7)
Munich (A8/A9)

Obviously, the more, the merrier...

Brian H | 2012年2月16日

phb | February 15, 2012

As an Oregonian I'm insulted that you would stop your installations at the boarder! Besides, it seems to me like a lot of California residents can't manage to stop at the boarder anyway!

Yes, I'm sure Oregonian boarders are nice people who pay their rent on time. But it borders on weird to be so concerned about them!
;)
;p

Brian H | 2012年2月16日

Hm, with all the 'buzz' about hot roads with inductive charging, maybe some strategic patches or stretches in selected areas where you could add miles while driving miles. Or big charging loop tracks where you just drive round and round till you've loaded up enough electrons!
;)

Mycroft | 2012年2月16日

I want to be able to make the drive from Seattle to LA to Phoenix to Las Vegas to San Fran and back to Seattle.

But that's just me. :)

Mike_ModelS_P457 | 2012年2月16日

I would think the length of the I95 corridor, I91, I93, I90, I84 and I87 in the NY / New Endland space. The Merrit Parkway would be nice, but if you have good coverage on 95 and 84, it wouldn't be a necessity.

Crow | 2012年2月16日

Pretty much along interstates everywhere. One problem with Denver is that it is centrally located but far from everywhere so you need supercharging in every direction of the compass. Personally, I need them on I-70 west of Denver (Vail, Grand Junction, Green River, etc...), I-15 south of SLC to Vegas and then to LA (Baker and Barstow). I-80 would be nice too.

mwu | 2012年2月16日

I second Charlotte, NC. I would also like to see I-95 covered further south than DC. I am in the Raleigh-Durham area of NC, but I work for a company in Charleston, SC. That trip is a bit over 300 miles (to my brother's condo in North Charleston) which I am making once per month (round trip -- down on Sunday, back on Friday). A single charger at say Florence, SC would allow me to make that trip in about the same time I currently make it in my ICE vehicle.

Klaus | 2012年2月16日

I75 and I77 betweenFL and OH

stephen.kamichik | 2012年2月16日

Kingston, Ontario and Ottawa, Ontario.

adstein | 2012年2月16日

Along major interstates or easy access to them. The ne corridor could benefit from I-91 and I-84 locations.

h8young | 2012年2月16日

Along Interstate 15 from LA to Vegas. So Victorville, Barstow and Baker, CA.

Beaker | 2012年2月16日

Perko's in Mantica, CA 1/2ish from SF Bay Area to Yosemite.

DrJ | 2012年2月16日

AS a Texan, I would like see them along the two major corridors that criss-cross this massive state: I-35, which runs north/south connecting most of the eastern US to Mexico, connecting Dallas/Austin/San Antonio. The other would be I-10, running east/west, connects Houston/San Antonio/ElPaso. I live in Austin, and this would allow me to go pretty much anywhere in the state with an 85kw battery. I could get greedy and ask for a northwest route thru Lubbock as alot of us drive our families to ski vacations in Colorado....

Liz G | 2012年2月16日

St. Louis to Chicago to Milwaukee to the UP. We do this drive 3 to 4 times a year to see my in laws. Would be nice to do it in style.

CIAOPEC | 2012年2月16日

Between San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles I5 (i believe Tesla has mentioned supporting this route already) and between San Francisco Bay Area and North Lake Tahoe (Auburn?) along HWY 80.

David M. | 2012年2月17日

I95, Miami to Boston.
I5, San Diego to Seattle.
I10, Los Angeles to Jacksonville, FL.
I80, San Francisco to New York.
That should get things started.

You can fill in later with:
I75, Miami to Detroit.
I70, Denver to St. Louis.
I40, Greensboro, NC to Las Vegas.
I35, Minneapolis, to San Antonio.

With these routes covered, you can pretty much travel anywhere in the USA.

jomo25 | 2012年2月17日

Yuma, AZ
Wickenburg, AZ
Kingman, AZ
Quartzite, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Gila Bend, AZ
Blythe, CA
Indio, CA

Let's me travel readily from Phoenix to LA, SD, and/or Vegas.

mklcolvin | 2012年2月17日

I'd vote I-20 coast to coast for the southern route, and I-80 coast to coast for the northern route. Maybe I-55 from Chicago to Memphis to bridge between the two routes.

Teoatawki | 2012年2月17日

I90, I94. Seattle to Boston. That's the northern route.

bfranks273 | 2012年2月17日

Yes, guy in the parking lot asks me about the Roadster. Very cool fast, etc. "But how do you get to Florida?" My favorite quote.

Everywhere, yes of course. But it takes time and money. Where is the best ROI for these first few years before we can cover the whole planet?

So personnaly, I'm in the Washington DC metro area. I need a spot between here and the Outer Banks. Lots of Nags Head travelers, right? A great place would be Fredericksburg I-95. And also Richmond. But the Outer Banks needs a branch East so need something In Norfolk, Chesapeake to feed down that way.

Of course let's pepper I-95 all the way up and down. So who's got the whole I-95 map of roughly 200 mile legs with stations at nice restaurants and hotels? It will be a valuable collectors items in ten years, like the old maps of the new world. I want one.

David M. | 2012年2月18日

I think Tesla would have to install a supercharger every 150 miles to be able to service the cars with 230 mile batteries, taking a 25% fuel economy penalty for driving 65mph with the AC on, and having a safety margin.

Leofingal | 2012年2月18日

Utica, NY along the thruway, Lee MA rest area on the turnpike, and 90/495 interchange along the turnpike (Westborough), and I would also request pinball machines in these locations. Don't need superchargers since my 40kWh battery won't be allowed anyway. I don't anticipate doing this drive with my S though. They'll make a killing off the pinball machine though.

Robert.Boston | 2012年2月18日

I would also request pinball machines in these locations.
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. Pinball and latte.

I think we have agreed that every 150 on every interstate highway is the right option. ;-)

ncn | 2012年2月18日

I-80, I-90, I-70 would be my priorities, in that order, but then I never go to the south :-)

The East Coast, Washington to Boston, is not a priority -- a waste of time, honestly -- there are plenty of slower chargers available there, and it's a deeply unpleasant drive with lots of alternatives to driving. But Tesla appears committed to wasting our time by putting Superchargers there early, so whatever.

After reviewing charging availability, I'd actually start with the areas where 240 volt charging is practically nonexistent. This means the northern regions where campgrounds close in the winter; and the giant desert gaps east of California.

Start by making trips *possible*, and worry about making them easy later.

Brian H | 2012年2月18日

150 miles works, but 100-120 would be better. Reduces "bunching" at the stations, and permits full highway speeds rather than hypermiling.

Tom A | 2012年2月18日

@ncn: to some extent, I agree with you. I've driven the Northeast Corridor, I've ridden Amtrak along the Corridor, and I've flown. Driving by far is the worst. People are increasingly insane behind the wheel. Crippling traffic volumes and construction zones are inevitable. From the DC metro area to points north, I will only ever take the train or fly.

Now, there are major north-south routes inland, such as I-270, I-81, I-83, US 15, where there are no direct passenger train routes, and flying is either overkill or prohibitively expensive. You really don't have a reasonable option except to fly.

A supercharging station in Frederick, MD would be a good node, I think. US 40 and US 15 go through there. I-70 intersects with the northern end of I-270 there, and ridiculous amounts of traffic to Baltimore, DC, Harrisburg, and westbound I-70 to I-81, etc., travel through there every single day.

I would suggest a few spots along the Pennsylvania Turnpike, such as Bedford (touristy) or the Midway rest stop. At 65 mph and no problems, it's about 7 hours' drive between Pittsburgh and Philly. Three supercharging stations should cover the turnpike.

Another possibility is Harrisburg, PA. It's a huge, natural hub. It's 2 hours from DC, Baltimore and Philly, and about 4 hours from NYC and Pittsburgh. It's clearly strategic at least from the fact that there are square miles of trucking terminals around Harrisburg. I-81, I-83, PA Turnpike (I-76), US 22 and US 322 all pass through/around the city. It's also near a popular destination, Hershey, the home of Hershey's chocolate and a large amusement park.

JohnQ | 2012年2月19日

I'm not sure if ncn has tongue firmly planted in cheek regarding ignoring the NE corridor but I suspect not. Tesla's strategy of focusing on the most populous, heavily traveled long distance corridors makes sense from a business and sales perspective. Having level 2 chargers about simply does not solve the problem of long distance travel unless you feel like stopping for a few hours for a recharge. Regarding Amtrak v driving, put 4 people in the car and it is significantly cheaper to drive from NY to DC than it is to take the train, especially if you need a vehicle at the other end.

Tom A's strategy makes the most sense. Key, major interchanges get superchargers then fill in the gaps to make travel between them possible.

Dave-LasVegas | 2012年2月19日

The "Model S buyer's map" shows loads of presales in SoCal, but just me by my lonesome in Las Vegas. Also, Los Angelinos are famous, perhaps even "notorious," for doing Sin City weekends.

Besides, I'll probably need to get my Model S to Los Angeles for its scheduled maintenance plus any other service, for a couple years or so, assuming all goes well and Tesla becomes a long-lived hit. If I had to actually take my Model S delivery in SoCal right now... uh... well, I'd be in a bind.

The obvious recharge points on I-15 are:
Barstow CABaker CAPrimm NV.
Otherwise, there's really very little civilization and a whole lot of desert on that route. Anyone who's seen Baker CA knows what I mean.

I might one day want to take my Model S to the Grand Canyon or Phoenix, but the Siren Call of Disneyland and a place to get Tesla service makes me put the route to LA at the top of my wish list.

mcornwell | 2012年2月19日

Dave, I believe there is a Tesla charger installed at the McDonalds in Barstow, though its not a super charger...

JOHN HOLLINGSWORTH | 2012年2月19日

The next to last north bound rest stop on the New Jersey turnpike and the midway rest sto on the Pennsylvania turn pike

RichSh | 2012年2月19日

Making it easy for buyers to get to service locations (and/or drive home from the store) makes sense initially. Every 100-120 miles along interstate highways sounds good, as that could work regardless of battery size if a 240V charger is also available at the site. Start from the stores, and work out along interstates in all directions.

Being in central Iowa, roughly 350 miles from the nearest service & store locations in Chicago at present time, I'd very much like to see chargers announced along I80 and I88 at Des Moines IA, Coralville IA, Sterling IL and at the Chicago service location (~115 miles apart).

Alternatively, it may work to have just 1 high speed charger at Davenport in between Des Moines & Chicago, although that would be pushing it for the 230 mile battery (~175 miles apart) and definitely wouldn't work for the 160 mile--might also need 240V chargers at both Coralville and Sterling to help those with smaller batteries bridge the gap.

I80 goes from NY to the SF area, so should be a high priority to allow for cross-contentinental travel eventually. I35 between Minneapolis and San Antonio also seems important, both to me and for being a key route for cross-continental travel.

At present time,

Brian H | 2012年2月20日

Tom;
"Now, there are major north-south routes inland, such as I-270, I-81, I-83, US 15, where there are no direct passenger train routes, and flying is either overkill or prohibitively expensive. You really don't have a reasonable option except to fly."

I think you meant "except to drive"??

DDD | 2012年2月20日

The I95 corridor from Miami to Boston. Let's get the east coast covered. High visibility, and high impact with Boston, NY, Atlantic City, Philly, Baltimore, DC, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Richmond, Charlotte and the beaches (Virginia Beach, The Outer Banks, Myrtle Beach, Daytona Beach, Miami Beach, etc.) all within distance.

clea | 2012年2月20日

I have four destinations that I usually drive to that would be nice to have supercharger support. Mt Tremblant, Ottawa, Toronto and Boston. The first two of which would be drive-able without but would be nicer to have charging support at the destinations but the last two would almost require Supercharger support. There have been rumors that the Toronto route along the 401 will get some EV charging stations but whether or not they will get the Tesla superchargers is still not confirmed. The only one I am concerned about is the trip to Boston and to go there I usually take the I91 to the I93 down but the I89 route would be acceptable as well. If they add that and add support for the I95 down to Florida I easily be persuaded to take a road trip down for my winter golf fix instead of flying.

BryanW | 2012年2月20日

I live near Salt Lake City, the "difficult" part of the country for EV adoption. With the 300 mile battery pack, I can cover ALL of my daily / weekly commuting and driving. I can get all around the northern half of Utah without problems and don't see a need for a charger anywhere other than home.

The challenge is that 3-4 times a year we take trips of greater distance to places like Moab (230 miles), Cedar City (250 miles), St. George (300 miles), Denver (530 miles), Las Vegas (425 miles), Yellowstone (300 miles). These trips will all require some way to charge en route, and no one ever goes 55 mph on these roads.

I would love to see Superchargers along I-15 from Salt Lake to LA, and I-70 from I-15 to Denver. However, these routes go through some very long stretches of remote area... So, while I would love to see Supercharges along these routes, I'm not holding my breath because I think the routes listed above will serve many more people / EV enthusiasts.

If Tesla did provide Supercharging along these routes, I think both the Model S and Model X would be very popular here in Utah.

Robert.Boston | 2012年2月20日

A Supercharger near Elko NV on I-80. That's a long, lonely stretch of road between Reno and Salt Lake City! There's a few campgrounds on US-50, which parallels I-80, but they're poor substitutes for a Supercharger.

Tom A | 2012年2月20日

@Brian H, 2/20: Yes. "drive". oops.

Tom A | 2012年2月21日

@Derril, 2/20: +100

The East Coast, the entire coast (Bar Harbor to Miami), would be beneficial for exactly those reasons - high population density and high concentrations of desirable tourist and vacation destinations.

As I understand it, TM will be emphasizing the two coasts, then start working inland from both ends. I look forward to detailed announcements.

Actually, I would expect that the primary routes under consideration would overlap significantly with the various proposed high-speed rail systems, for the same reasons (targeting high-volume driving routes that connect popular destinations).

Robert.Boston | 2012年2月21日

+1 Tom A: the northernmost reaches of the world is not at Boston. To the contrary, Boston is the hub of the world. :-) Extending the charging network northward from Boston to Bar Harbor is a good call; a great tourist destination with sparse charging infrastructure.

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