Will you ever own another brand?

Will you ever own another brand?

I can honestly say after having my Model S85 for about 2.5 months that I will never own another brand. This car far exceeds anything I have ever driven. I always had cars I loved but wouldn't buy another one. Here I can say I would by another one all day long! Maybe a different model but Tesla all the way!

MitchP85D | 13 maart 2015

I currently have the MS60 and the P85D. If Tesla made motorcycles, then I can honestly say I will stick with Tesla for the rest of my life! | 13 maart 2015

Consumer reports says Tesla has the highest customer retention rate (i.e. you'd buy another Tesla). Hard to see another real competitor that will have the style, space, ride, performance, range, UI, batteries and charging network of Tesla's cars.

Tstolz | 13 maart 2015

I can't imagine owning anything else at this point. Already putting dollars aside for a M3 in fact ... a bit weird I suppose since no one had even seen it yet.

pnajar | 13 maart 2015

Simple answer is yes.

The reason I ordered a Tesla, with fewer features, is the overall innovation not only in the car but in the supportive infrastructure - from sales, service, super charger, and treating the customer like an adult. However if Tesla fails to keep me interested with the above and another company becomes more innovative I would be tempted. After all after Tesla drug me from the arms of BMW where I was happy with the level of leading car design for the last 10 years.

Mike83 | 13 maart 2015

20,000 miles on my P85 and still have the grin. I will definitely buy another Tesla; my wife likes the X but the P85D would be awesome. These are my problems.

P85D | 13 maart 2015

Not unless I had to. I have had 3, trying to get my 4th.

<3 Tesla.

barrykmd | 13 maart 2015

Not if it winds up as a piece of Apple.

Haggy | 13 maart 2015

I hope so at some point. It would mean that the rest of the industry would have to change drastically but I'd like to see a world where Tesla had serious competition. If I had to do it now, I'd end up with four or five MS and I'm not too keen on that. Also it will take some time before people have the capacity to plug in multiple vehicles at home.

Sam_S | 13 maart 2015

A good and relevant read from Mary Barra

CHICAGO – General Motors CEO Mary Barra addressed the Chicago Economic Club on Thursday evening. The prepared text of her remarks is below. As always, the speaker’s words are definitive.

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Thank you for that kind and generous introduction. And thank you for the opportunity to speak with you tonight.

An exciting new era of change is sweeping the global automotive industry. In fact, I believe the industry will experience more change in the next 5 years than it has in the last 50 years.

I don't make this claim lightly. I believe we are on the verge of a revolution in personal transportation.

And the impact on every company in the industry, every urban center and hundreds of millions of consumers will be profound.

There are roughly 30,000 parts in the typical automobile and virtually all of them are being reconsidered and reimagined. Every assumption and industry norm are being challenged. Different fuel sources; new propulsion systems; lighter, stronger materials; reduced environmental impact; connectivity preferences; ownership options; even the right to drive in congested urban areas are just a few examples of the reinvention process that's underway.

It is impossible to overstate the magnitude of change I'm talking about. Some of the examples that I will reference tonight may sound like long-term science projects. They aren't. They are real...and imminent. They are also daunting, challenging...and incredibly exciting.

The auto industry is exploding with creativity, innovation and competition. I have been in the industry for more than 30 years and this is by far the most exciting time. Looking across the business landscape, there isn't any place I would rather be right now. I love the opportunities this era of change presents.

It motivates the GM team every day… because we know we have a chance to make an important difference in the lives of millions of people.

Just a few years ago, if I had polled this audience, and asked you to pick an industry that best represented the 20th century, many of you likely would have selected the automotive sector. And GM probably would have been the example a lot of you would have identified.

Conversely, if I had asked you to pick the model industry of the early 21st century, you undoubtedly would have chosen the technology sector. Apple, Google, Samsung and Amazon would be likely examples.

As I stand here tonight, however, perceptions are beginning to shift. Interest in the auto sector is growing in many quarters. The technology industry, in particular, is becoming more engaged because they realize that cars are the ultimate mobile app. I am glad our industry is attracting so much attention and I am excited about the coming advancements in cars.

At GM, we have made it clear to our shareholders, our dealers and our employees that we want to build the most valued automotive company. Second place is not our aspirational goal. We want to win. We want to lead.

A key element of driving that value, and the basis for our future growth, includes investment in technologies -- technologies that provide direct benefits to customers and solid returns for our shareholders.

GM’s investment in the technologies of tomorrow is consistent with the announcements we made earlier this week on a comprehensive capital allocation strategy, focused on solid business performance, rigorous capital discipline and increased returns to shareholders.

In our announcement, we committed to a share buyback program totaling $5 billion before the end of 2016. Combined with our $9 billion per year investment in new products and advanced technologies, we are delivering on our plan to win - for our customers, our shareholders, our partners and our employees.
We are making these investments because we believe strongly in the future of the industry and the future of GM. The fact is this is a growth industry.

Given the traffic that we all deal with on a daily basis, it may seem hard to believe, but the vast majority of the world does not own a car. And demand for automobiles is exploding across Asia, Africa and South America. The market will also continue to be strong here in the U.S.

Our job at GM is to make sure we are properly positioned to take advantage of the surging demand for personal transportation. So before I talk further about the technology revolution, I want to briefly highlight three critical strengths of the company.

First, we have scale and resources.

If you don't currently own a GM vehicle and haven't bought one in years, you may have an outdated image of our company. In 2015, we expect to sell nearly 10 million vehicles around the world. This would be the most in our 110-year history. That's more than 1,000 new vehicles sold every hour, 24 hours a day.

To produce that volume, we have more than 170 manufacturing plants in 31 countries. And, we purchase more than $400 million of goods and services... every day.

Second, with 216,000 employees we have a tremendous base of talent. As an engineer, I am biased, but I think the technology race will be led by STEM professionals. At GM, we have nearly 37,000 engineers and other technical resources who are working every day to invent transportation solutions for tomorrow.

My primary focus at GM is to build an environment where employees feel motivated and empowered to be creative. As a long time GM employee, I know both our strengths and our weaknesses. I'm determined to see the full potential of our talent and resources unleashed.

A stronger, more dynamic and more creative GM will deliver great value for customers, shareholders and for hundreds of thousands of villages, towns and cities around the world.

As an engineer, I am trained to focus on facts and data. In the world of science and math, ambiguity is the enemy. I always want to know the facts and I believe in measuring outcomes. To that end, we know that our processes and systems have to produce superior results. And our technology solutions have to meet and exceed consumer expectations. We get this at GM and we are determined to deliver.

A third strength of GM is our long record of innovation. From the first electric starter to the first crash dummy. To the EV1 to the Volt. To the most fuel cell powered miles driven in the industry. To OnStar and 4G LTE, and countless more examples, GM has always played a leading role in revolutionizing the automobile.

Consider 4G LTE. It's a powerful proof point of our commitment to put the customer at the center of everything we do. We are installing 4G LTE on 30 vehicles, the broadest deployment in the industry. The service will include a built in Wi-Fi hot spot capable of pairing up to seven devices.

Most significantly, it enhances the connection to OnStar, making it the best in-vehicle safety system available from any manufacturer.

But the competition in this industry is fierce and getting stronger every day. In fact, this is one of the rare times in the history of the industry when virtually every auto company is profitable. As you would expect, confidence is running high among all of our competitors.

Success for GM or any auto company is far from certain. But I am certain we have what we need to become the most valued auto company in the world. The history of our industry shows that consumers will spend their money with the companies that design, engineer and manufacture vehicles that give them the best possible value, safety and reliability.

Our mission at GM is to earn customers for life. We want to give every customer a great experience not just the day they buy a car, but in the process leading up to the purchase, and for as long as they own their vehicle.

If we deliver this level of ultra-attentive customer service, along with the kind of technology breakthroughs we know are coming, we will be recognized and rewarded in the marketplace.

Some of the transformative changes I’m talking about include: electric powered vehicles, autonomous vehicles and enhanced connectivity.

Think about your own driving experience. It wasn't long ago that we all thought 30 miles per gallon was a great milestone. And for certain types of vehicles it is. But consider the Chevrolet Volt.

We have sold approximately 75,000 Volts and we know from vehicle data that the typical Volt owner goes 900 miles between fill ups at the gas station. Remarkable, yes, but it is the norm for the Volt. We expect the next generation Volt to go more than 1,000 miles between fill ups.

At GM, we continue to believe strongly in the future of electric vehicles. In fact, in January I revealed a concept car at the Detroit auto show, the Chevrolet Bolt.

It is an all-electric, family vehicle that will go 200 miles on a charge and cost roughly $30,000. We think it's going to be a game changer. Last month at the Chicago Auto Show, we announced that – in cooperation with our UAW partner – we will build the Chevy Bolt at our Orion Township plant in Michigan.

But electric is only part of the answer. It's likely that numerous propulsion systems, from any number of companies, will continue to advance - hybrids, fuel cells, diesels, to name a few. And the internal combustion engine is far from dead.

Looking forward, there is a lot we don't know, but we do know this - we will continue to increase the fuel efficiency and reduce the environmental impact of vehicles beyond anything anyone imagined even a few years ago.

I suspect many of you are wondering about the buzz about autonomous vehicles. Are we really going to have driverless cars? Some would say a lot of consumers believe we are already there. Just think how many people you have seen texting and driving. Or reading and driving. Or applying make-up and driving. Or eating meals and driving.

This is not the recommended type of autonomous driving I'm talking about. The technology I envision, that we and other companies are working on now, will be a lot more advanced, and a lot safer.

The most important point you should remember about autonomous vehicles is that they are coming - and fast. The technological foundation for autonomous vehicles can be seen in cars today - adaptive cruise control, lane changing warnings, front and rear cameras, to name just a few.

In less than two years we are going to start connecting cars to each other, and the world around them, using wireless technology called V2X.

V2X encompasses both vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure technology. It's a game changer for safety, because when enough cars share information about such factors as speed, direction, and braking, crashes will be substantially reduced. This is reality. It is not science fiction. It is not a pipe dream. It is here. We know how to do it. And it will transform the industry in the coming years.

The investment will be substantial for governments at every level, the automotive industry and endless related businesses. That’s why a comprehensive capital allocation strategy is critical. And building this infrastructure will certainly take time. But the savings in accidents, economic loss, congestion, environmental impact...and, most significantly, in injuries and fatalities…will be extraordinary.

Cadillac is taking the lead for the company with this technology. The 2017 Cadillac CTS will be the first GM vehicle with V2X technology. I believe it will also be a first for the industry.

We are currently working with the State of Michigan and the University of Michigan to create more than 100 miles of V2X-enabled corridors in the Detroit area. This test program is the largest of its kind in the world.

Over the past year, my work has taken me to many of the world's great cities - New York, Berlin, Beijing, New Delhi, São Paulo. The differences culturally, economically and politically are significant. But so are the similarities. All great cities, like Chicago, are striving to be more livable. To be more secure. To be more prosperous. To be more welcoming.

You are lucky to live in one of the greatest cities in the world. Chicago is an American treasure. But everyone in this room wants more for Chicago. For your children and for future want to build a better city.

At GM, building better cities and a better world through improved transportation options, is part of our core.

Personal transportation means freedom. It means economic advancement. And it means connected families and communities.

But think what we can do with a world of safer vehicles. Vehicles that use less fuel. That have less environmental impact. That are programmed to prevent accidents and reduce congestion.

The goal at GM is to be the clear leader in this era of transformational change. I believe in our team and I believe in our technology. And I am committed to results…results that serve our customers across the globe. Results that change how the automobile is used. Results that deliver to our shareholders.

I know I speak for every GM employee when I say it is an honor to be in this business at this time. We are excited about the future. More than excited, we are inspired.

It was a privilege to be here tonight. Thank you for sharing your evening with me.

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SeattleSid | 13 maart 2015

When I got this car I figured it'd be the last car I'll buy; partly because I'm getting past my biblical allotment of years, partly because I tend to keep cars for a long time, and mainly because I don't see falling out of like for it.

My wife loves her MX5, and I'd guess she'd get another of those. She's a little intimidated by the size of the Tesla, but loves riding in it and shares my awe for the technology and my belief that electric is the future.

The main question for me is whether I'll be seduced into getting a newer iteration of this car at some point.

jordanrichard | 13 maart 2015

Elon's prepared speeches are about 1/64 of this dribble, the rest is on the fly and straight forward.

Everything Barra or any other car company says has been written by their respective PA/marketting dept.

TytanX | 13 maart 2015

I will own another brand if another brand builds a better car. I love my Tesla but loyalty to a company is just silly.

PhillyGal | 13 maart 2015

It's very hard to say for those of us with (hopefully) 30-40+ years of driving ahead of us.
I know I will be buying another branded car as my daily driver in the next year or two because having 2 Teslas doesn't make sense to us right now. It will make sense once I can get one that is smaller. Preferably a Model 3X version so that we have a crossover in the house.

Qwiksilver | 13 maart 2015

Would NEVER buy a GM car.
Will only buy Teslas going forward.

Captain_Zap | 13 maart 2015

Tesla is the only company that I trust to support BEVs and to not kill the electric car.

The reason I took a chance on Tesla is because I could actually own the car and it wasn't available only by lease.

There is nothing silly about that.

This is silly:

inconel | 13 maart 2015

Currently I think Tesla has the best car in the market but I am sure the other manufacturers (and potential new manufacturer from Cupertino) will not stand still.

They were caught by surprise but are no doubt actively working on their counter offensive. In 10 years it is hard to know where the best products will come from. One thing I know for sure though is by then the new cars will make my P85D seem like an antique and I can't wait for it to happen to enjoy these new amazing toys from California, Germany, or elsewhere.

jbmjbm22 | 13 maart 2015

I had a Volt before my model s and will never buy another GM product ever. GM is simply a pension fund that sales cars in the side.

Red Sage ca us | 13 maart 2015

Mary Barra informed us, "...the internal combustion engine is far from dead."

Hrmph? Wait... What?!? Are you sure about that?

A lot of old timers I know have thought the ICE was dead for the past twenty-five years... They are disgusted by anything without a carburetor. They are especially put off by anything metric, everything electronic, and the very mention of computer management. Hybrid motors perplex them. Fully electric cars are to them, Armageddon.

If you have no intention of building new vehicles that could be fully serviced by Gomer Pyle in 1965, the internal combustion engine is dead and gone.

Kapil | 13 maart 2015

She lost me around the non-sense about 4G LTE being a leading example of GMs technical innovation.

The CEO of GM thinks that the most advanced thing GM has done with a car is to stick a cellular radio made by Qualcomm in their vehicles? Wow! What trailblazers! She is an embarrassment to engineers everywhere.

GM should have gone the Ford or Chrysler route - they should have brought in an outsider rather than promote a lifer or sell to a competitor.

senboy | 13 maart 2015

I stopped reading this thread after the second "never". come on people!!!

Mclary where are you when you're needed!??

mclary | 13 maart 2015

What is the point to this thread?


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Karim | 13 maart 2015

Tesla is one of my favorite companies, but no one does sports cars like Porsche. So one Tesla for fun yet "practical" purposes, and one GT3 for pure fun.

Red Sage ca us | 16 maart 2015

Fun is always practical.

Son of a Gunn | 16 maart 2015

Karim, I wish I could afford two great toys like you. I must admit I do miss rowing the gears. I won't give up my MS though if I had to choose.

justinmk3 | 16 maart 2015

I'd buy an Apple Car. (;

cpmarino | 16 maart 2015

What are the factors that go into vehicle purchase decisions today, without Tesla? Price is and always will be the biggest factor for most people; quality; performance; serviceability; brand loyalty; technology; value, etc. None of that has changed because of Tesla, but Tesla created a game changer that others will emulate. Apple didn't invent the cell phone, they just made it better, and made it do things that others didn't. A lot like Tesla. There was a period where it was Apple or nothing, literally, if you wanted certain things. Now, there are great competitors and some do things better than Apple or are less restrictive, etc.

The love of autos isn't going away. ICE isn't going away any time soon. But, when the big brands develop EVs that can match Tesla, it comes down to things like design, technology, options, price, etc.

If BMW had an EV that matched Tesla on performance, BMW loyalists would buy it over Tesla. That simple. Same for GM, Audi, MB ... whoever. Right now, Tesla has a huge advantage. Hopefully, they'll continue to dominate the bleeding edge technology and break new ground, making it harder for others to catch up. Eventually though, they will.

Pungoteague_Dave | 16 maart 2015

Until there's a 300-mile ev motorcycle, BMW will get some of my transportation dollars every couple years. We will likely always buy a new Ford pickup every few years. Our new '15 F-150 is amazing - as Dan Neil says in the WSJ - the Tesla of trucks. Until an ev can tow 11,000 pounds, ICE will remain the primary propulsion for pickups and heavy SUV's, so doing it well is more important than all the EV's planned in the next ten years. The new F-150 is doing way more for the environment and relative reduction of oil consumption than all the ev's on the road combined.

mgboyes | 16 maart 2015

If the only cars I want to own over the next 50 years are all Teslas, then that means Tesla will have totally failed in their mission to transform the automotive industry and revolutionise personal transport.

What a horrible thought.

david.baird | 16 maart 2015

Right now there's nothing to match a Model S as a daily driver and family car, that may change one day when the other manufacturers begin to catch up.

However, the car itself is only half of the equation with the customer service providing an equally compelling experience. It's this aspect I'd fear giving up even more, I think...

Mike83 | 16 maart 2015

Old habits are hard to change and GM is still oblivious to the new era that Tesla started. The other ICE companies were caught flat footed with old thinking. By the time they change leaders Tesla will be another several miles ahead and the ICE companies will still be trying to catch them. Combined with SolarCity and mini grids along with rocket science people don't have a clue whats ahead.

barrykmd | 16 maart 2015

I'd buy an Apple Car. (;

It will come with penty of cup-holders for the Kool-Aid.

jwg | 16 maart 2015

I guess I'll be the contrarian here...

Of course I will own other brands in the future - quite possibly switching my Tesla for something else entirely in 5 or 10 years. I've owned cars from 6 different manufactures in the past, and I can't imagine suddenly any car-maker has suddenly developed something that will always forever more be head and shoulders above the rest. There will be lots of innovation over the next decade from lots of very capable auto manufactures. Who knows what the future brings, and I think it is naive to think that Tesla will magically always have a lead in technology and have the most attractive designs and features. While a great car, we all know Tesla has some flaws, and it is not obvious they are always the most responsive with dealing with issues. I imagine there will come a time when we look back at the model S and laugh at some of its quirks (such as having to close the frunk just right in order not to bend the metal...)

As for the direct-sales model - I agree buying a car without going through was a dealership was a refreshing idea, but having now gone through it - no big deal. I have to admit I have received much better service from car dealerships in the past, at least they are all out competing for business. With Tesla, I don't get emails returned, and some of their people actually seem put out when I reach out with a question - like we should all just be honored they are selling a car to us. I know others have had much better experiences - creating a top-notch high level of service standard across the board is one of their challenges.

proven | 16 maart 2015

It sure is romantic to say this is the only car brand I would ever buy, but ever is a long time. Nobody really knows what will happen in the long term (or even 10 years from now).

For now I can safely say that our next car will be a Tesla since we have a reservation for an X, but I won't say ever.

Not Ready for P... | 16 maart 2015

Easily... YES!!! Using the logic that you can't eat your favorite meal every day.

Boxhat1 | 16 maart 2015

This will be next car I will be purchasing.

jbmjbm22 | 19 maart 2015

My favorite meal isn't 100k

carolinagobo | 19 maart 2015

I always owned German cars, after my Tesla surpassed all about European cars I won't ever buy another brand "if they keep the quality and service" I am European and American Citizen and I am so proud of driving a car made in the USA that is kicking Euro cars.

JoeFee | 21 maart 2015

I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OTHER EV THAT WOULD MAKE ME JUMP SHIP Plus, no one has the worldwide supercharger network.

Bobrrr | 21 maart 2015

I'm planning on buying a personal drone made by Boeing and Amaxon. Tesla is falling behind in the technology race. Lol.

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logicalthinker | 21 maart 2015

I'm sorry, somebody word AN ENTIRE SCRIPTED BLAH BLAH by GM CEO?

#seriously. #LOL #blahblah

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Suprkar | 21 maart 2015

If something comparable to Model S is made by another company, MAYBE
Until then NO

KidDoc | 21 maart 2015

I hope to keep my S85 for 10 years. And I hope to buy another Tesla at that point. There is NOTHING even close to Tesla right now and that may change but the whole buying experience and service is light years ahead of other car companies.

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lolachampcar | 22 maart 2015

I read the GM/Barra thing and all I could picture in my mind is this brave lady looking at a train coming down the track and saying "Yep, that is a train, it is coming right at me and it is going to hit me. We really are going to get moving off the tracks here. No, really, we are a good strong motivated group of people and we are going to move off this track before we get hit. Really."

lolachampcar | 22 maart 2015

My dad would tell me you can wish in one hand and spit in the other (ok, he was an ole dust bowl Okee) and see which will fill up first. GM might want to do more engineering and less talking.