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FLsportscarenth... | 6 mei 2013

Well, being interviewed for a position is a great honour. We are in a recession and the worst economic conditions since the great depression, most job openings (especially with desirable companies like Tesla) receive hundreds of applications and if you were interviewed it means you beat out dozens if not hundreds of applicants.

Most people on this forum love cars or at least are very interested in Tesla, many have a passion for Tesla and I am sure many would love to work for Tesla (I would love to!). However making a personal plea on a forum is not likely to help you as it does not look very professional. It certainly is not very wise to disclose your personal details on a public forum (or that of your family - even if you do not value your privacy, they may). Staff from Tesla Motors do read this forum and if you want to work for a company you have put your best foot forward (like using capitalization in your written presentation).

Brian H | 7 mei 2013

And learning to use grammatical English. You still have quite a way to go.

RNB | 7 mei 2013

agree brian

all the tesla people have struck me as well polished.

PorfirioR | 7 mei 2013

@alex
Siento mucho que no te ofrecieron empleo. Como otros dijeron, la economia esta mala, tambien esta compañia esta empezando ahora.

Si te puedo dar un consejo sin insultarte, te diria que trates de mejorar tu comunicacion en Ingles. Aunque tu mercado de ventas sea la comunidad latina, a un punto tienes que comunicarte con la organizacion de la compañia, y esa impresion es muy importante.

No te desamines. Buena suerte.

FLsportscarenth... | 7 mei 2013

Living in Miami I have a lot of bilingual friends and associates (Spanish/English, Portugese/English, Haitian Creole/English). Some only recently came to US but many write and speak polished English as well as I do (albeit with an accent but not so bad as to detract from the content of their communication). As a well travelled person I have met many people living in non-English speaking counties who speak and write excellent professional English. When I visit non-English speaking countries I make an effort to learn at least some polite expressions in the local language. I would not move to a non-English speaking country without committing to learn at least a passable command of the language, if seeking a job there I would put my best efforts into coming off as a professional in the local language.

I have been to Puerto Rico, it is a US colony, just about everyone (except for the some of the Dominicans who slipped in and older rural people who never use it) speaks passable English and English instruction is provide to all at public schools free of charge, a sizable percent speak and write excellent professional English. When visiting there I spoke my crappy Spanish as I was the guest and I respected my hosts.

My posting was not intended to insult Alex, but to have him reconsider his perspective and improve the way he presents himself (he actually sounds like a nice guy but has a number of things to learn). Those who learn from constructive criticism get stronger... I learn from it too...

alexzone007 | 7 mei 2013

sorry to post this on a public forum i got mad the think is that tesla is duing a wrong decicion choosing kids for the comoany if u read on other forums customers like my self whent to the store and was like i need to work here to help this company i had a dealer before and i know how it is i sold everything in pr to move to usa and have being looking for a job to njoy my passion and making noise in social media like this is the only way up there can hear you this days
i dont care if i guet hired or not but in the end someone can listen...
i bet i speak english better than any american can do in spanish and i know portuguese to a little i am bad @ gramar thats why secretaries are for
sorry if u dont like it i can use my ipad for auto corection jejeje
i hope tesla can go far with their beautifull product that i like a lot i race bmw m3 on tracks and love cars i am young guy and have vision
take care and sorry people ...

alexzone007 | 7 mei 2013

sorry is the auto correction i am in a hurry lol

alexzone007 | 7 mei 2013

i guess this turn to a english class and the one that likes to do critics dont know how to write any other languague jejeje be good

alexzone007 | 7 mei 2013

MrPorfirioR
Gracias por tu consejo ,
si estoy fuera de practica pero hablo ingles mejor de lo que escribo y escribí rápido sin darme cuenta si la compania esta empezando pero estan poniendo puros niñitos que no tienen experiencia en ventas ni en hablar con clientes.
decidi escribi aqui por que me moleste en la manera en que hicieron las cosas
gracias por tu consejo mejorare solo llevo 2 meses en havana
gracias
alex

p.s those who did critics on me guess you dont understand spanish lol

Brian H | 7 mei 2013

Your knowledge of Spanish and sales is valuable, but does not substitute for being fluent in the company's operating language.

alexzone007 | 8 mei 2013

in miami is 95% spanish the market and latin america my friend you need to understand the culture in miami

alexzone007 | 8 mei 2013

rice and beans and mojitos salsa when i whent to lincoln road were 3 mexican guys there the sales guy product specialist was lost trying to explain them tesla cause in latin american they dont know and are afraid of buying a electric car i took chargue of the conversation and i was just visiting
south florida market is not like the other states specially miami i have extensive experience in the automotive market if tesla keep hiring childs out of collegue to the miami market that dont know how to explain they are going to keep buying bmw

alexzone007 | 8 mei 2013

jajaja i am a cool guy people just got mad of the hiring process and the kids that interview me i was like i can teach you kid you should go back to the apple store you cant expalin me how this car works i am a electric r/c champ in puerto rico i race cars i have experience and i did my research on this and thats my 2 cents they need bilingual people i am bilingual and i have experience this is america and the second languague is spanish so you better start learning cause our next president is going to be latino ...

alexzone007 | 8 mei 2013

i can sell a playboy to the pope if i what... lol

alexzone007 | 8 mei 2013

whant

FLsportscarenth... | 8 mei 2013

Hmm there are a lot of Europeans who write excellent English postings (witty , thoughtful and cogent) on this forum, if you grew up in a US territory and worked in Miami as a real estate agent you have no excuse to write the way that you do. I believe I was being rather charitable but seeing your responses and looking again at the original post it seems too kind indeed.

There are tens of thousands of bilingual young men and women around at FIU or MDC that give a much better presentations and have good attributes that need professional jobs that Tesla can choose from. Interesting that you do not mention any business degrees or trade school certificates or a ASE certification, if you have a lot of hands on real world experience, even a lot of people working in Hialeah garages have one or more ASE certificates. Saying that you worked in the auto industry and in sales, where is the credentials to back that up???.

Frankly I am surprised you got an interview, unless you pestered them till they relented to humour you, there are a lot more qualified bilingual people out there, and sure speaking another language is nice but who says it essential for a given position, there is a lot of subtle discrimination here in Dade County against non hispanic applicants, rejecting them for not being bilingual when it is not a clear requirement for the job. Telsa need only hire the best and I see a lot of polished professional people working there of many backgrounds...

I smell a troll...

FLsportscarenth... | 8 mei 2013

@Alex

Actually Miami-Dade county (population 2.5 million) is 65% Hispanic - mostly Cuban, you should know your market. The vast majority of Cubans I know speak good English and many without even an accent, and most are middle class. Do you know Senator Marco Rubio? He is the current culture and future of Miami, and he can communicate quite well with any of the fresh kids out of school working at Tesla.

Miami is not Mariel boat lift land anymore... We are a world class city!

Brian H | 8 mei 2013

It is perhaps telling that your corrected "what" to "whant" is also wrong.

frmercado | 8 mei 2013

Alex,

I, like almost everyone else here, don't pay much attention to the way I write here because it's just a forum for Tesla Motors fans, still, I believe I come across like someone that has at least some basic knowledge of writting and communication skills. Although, if I was asking for a job I would pay much more attention to what and how I was writting.

The job that you are asking for relies almost one hundred percent on communication skills, and your grammar and spelling sure don't speak very well about your communication skills...

If you are going to write a post asking for a job at a company like Tesla Motors or, for that matter, at any serious company(unless is to work as a fast food attendant), you should at least take time to write your post/personal statement, read it, reread it, make corrections if granted and lastly refine it.

Treat this as a job application, this way you won't come across as someone who is not serious about how he tackles all things in life, including its job. MHO.

frmercado | 8 mei 2013

...and, lastly, refine it. :p

Neech | 8 mei 2013

I have to agree with the other respondents. If you are seriously looking for a job then you really need to prove your professional abilities by presenting yourself in print with more than adequate writing skills. Your LinkedIn resume is better than what you have demonstrated here but it is still lacking in basic grammar skills. Your resume as it is currently would not even make it past the secretary.

FLsportscarenth... | 8 mei 2013

@Frmercado

Your presentation is fine, more polished than me actually... Typos and an occasional sloppy post sometimes make for a good laugh. But you can tell if a poster is sophisticated.

I love an intellectual debate and to have a few laughs with the by and large clever and pleasant community on here so sometimes I share opinions to stir things up and get good discussions going. I like and respect just about everyone on here because we share an appreciation for a really fantastic car company and its products, regardless of personal or political opinions or whatnot.

I did apply for a management position with Tesla a few months ago (currently professionally employed but to work for Tesla or SpaceX would be a great experience) so maybe my intellectual jousting and socialization is not the best idea, but as much as I have fun on here I do not intend to come off as a jerk or idiot. Maybe they understand having fun on a forum is one thing but when you work for the company you follow the line, never disclose opinions that would upset clients and keep professional at all times at work or when seen in the context of representing the company, maybe they do not and I ruined my chances...? Who knows?

Tesla is a great company and does good things for this country and the free world at large, if I do not get to work for them at least I will be a happy customer and when finances recover an enthusiastic shareholder...

Warm regards to all fellow forum members...

PorfirioR | 8 mei 2013

Let me take the other side of the argument for a moment, to keep things balanced.

Yes, Alex might need a secretary, but sales skills are sales skills.

Case in point, my brother made quite a career, first working for Verizon and then for Comcast, as a sales associate for DSL services in New York city. My brother speaks very poor English, by the way. However, his Spanish-speaking customers felt that they had an advocate in him since he came across as more genuine to them.

My brother is retired at 50, working when he wants to, and splits time between New York and the Caribbean - and my English is a million times better than his. Maybe I am bitter.

Tesla may be too small now but I can definitely see a need for more bilingual employees, not only in sales, but also in any customer-facing aspect of the company. I give Tesla some credit for the teslamotors web site including several language choices. Sadly, the "choose your region" feature of the web site does not include Spanish as an option for any country. This is an oversight, in my opinion. The US or the "Other Europe" region should have an option for Spanish.

Tesla is a company that always seems to get things right, even if missing the mark at first. I am confident that this will be the case and my brother might end up spending his retirement money buying a car from Alex.

FLsportscarenth... | 9 mei 2013

Surely needs a Spanish language option, we have a lot of wealthy Venezuelans here buying condos with money they hid from the Chavez regime (and increasingly argentines fleeing leftist nutter Cristina Kirchner). These wealthy 'investors' fleeing socialism usually appreciate good cars and can afford a Tesla, want to make customers feel comfortable with literature in their own first language...

I have seen two of the Lincoln Road Tesla staffers are bilingual (Spanish/English), it would behoove them to get a Portuguese speaker as well to service the wealthy Brazilians if they do not already.

Not sure but this may be in the cards for the Dadeland store... Lets see...

Three locations, 5.5 million in the metro area, thriving car culture maybe Miami can be the Tesla capital of the East Coast...

Would love to see sales data by state/region...

Pungoteague_Dave | 9 mei 2013

Your presentation comes across as self-importane, lacks humility, exudes over-confidence and is inconsistent with your obvious naivte. As an employer of many people (including a lot of native Spanish-speakers), you'd never make my first cut based on the way you present yourself here. Being a Model S enthusiast is not even a consideration in hiring for Tesla. Virtually none of their salespeople own or could afford a Model S. It isn't about that. Personal charactersitics, intelligence, presentation, and work ethic make people employable anywhere, including Tesla. Their staff in the DC area mostly drive Honda Fits.

Mmv3 | 9 mei 2013

I am absolutely sure that your biggest down fall is your use of gramer and ability to communicate effectively. I don't know how manny times I've walked out of a store and not bought anything just because the salesman couldn't communicate effectively and couldn't use correct American English gramer, making it impossible to understand what the salesman was explaining.

alexzone007 | 9 mei 2013

I AM GOINT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING PEOPLE ..
I BET I HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE HERE IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY THAN ANYONE HERE
THIS IS NOT A ENGLISH CLASS , WHEN U WHANT TO SELL SOMETHING,ITS THE WAY YOU PRESENT THE PRODUCT HAVE FRIENDLY PERSONALITY AND NEED TO HAVE REAL SOCIAL SKILLS NOT LIKE THIS DAYS IS SOCIAL MEDIA EMAILS OR SOMETHING, TO LET U KNOW AGAIN, THE MOST SUCCESFULL SALESA PEOPLE DIDNT WHENT TO COLLEGUE IS THE EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE OUT THERE IN THE JUNGLE.

I DID RESEARCH BEFORE APPLYING TO TESLA MOTORS ,AND WHENT TO THE STORES AND YES THEY HAVE GOOD KIDS OUT OF COLLEGUE THAT KNOW HOW TO WRITE ,AND MAYBE ARE (POWERPOINT EXPERTS) AND YES THEY CAN PRESENT A GOOD RESUME
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SALES IS ANOTHER STORY PAPA...

SO TO LET YOU KNOW, TESLA WAS NOT GOING TO PAY MY BILLS
I DECIDED TO APPLY CAUSE I HAVE PASSION FOR THE PRODUCT YES IS A GREAT PRODUCT AND THEY ARE DUING A GREAT JOB BUT IN MY OPINION THEY NEED PEOPLE WITH THAT EXPERTISE IN SOUTH FLORIDA I WHENT TO THE STORE TO LET YOU KNOW MORE I RUN 3 MITSUBISHI DEALERS OWNED BIE MY BIG BROTHER AND MY DAD WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF MITSUBISHI IN THE CARIBBEAN AND BEFORE OWNED LINCOLN MERCURY FRANHCISE SO DONT COME TO ME AND SAID M GRAMMAR GRAMMAR DONT SELL CARS
THIS DAYS WITH TIME AND A GOOD COMPUTER OR HIRE SOMEONE YOU CAN WRITE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGUE AND WITH ALL MY ERROR YOU UNDERSTAND ME RIGHT JAJAJA
BE GOOD PEOPLE IF U NEED A APARTMENT IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI COME AND TALK TO ME IS MY PART TIME JOB I WANTED TO HELP TESLA I THOUGHT THEY NEED SOMEBIDY WITH EXPEREICNE AND GOOD CONECTIONS IN MIAMI..

alexzone007 | 9 mei 2013

THE POINT OF THIS WAS MAKING NOISE THANK YOU

alexzone007 | 9 mei 2013

HARD WORK AND DEDICATION FLOYD MAYWEATHER BE GOOD

frmercado | 9 mei 2013

Alex:

You don't have to scream. I am a native Spanish speaker too, so I can tell you that speaking English as your second language is no excuse for poor grammar and spelling. On the other hand I also noticed that your Spanish writing skills are not that good either.

Let me explain it in a graphic way using your own words:

Gracias por tu consejo ,
si (Sí lleva tilde) (coma) estoy fuera de practica (práctica lleva tilde -es una palabra esdrujula-) pero hablo ingles (inglés lleva tilde -es una palabra aguda que termina en S-)mejor de lo que escribo y escribí rápido (aquí lo ideal sería incluir una coma, estas iniciando un un inciso explicativo) sin darme cuenta [de que] (darme cuenta es un verbo intransitivo -sin darme cuenta de que la compañía está empezando)si la compania esta (está lleva tilde, es palabra aguda terminada en vocal) empezando (aquí va una coma) pero estan (están lleva tilde; es palabara aguda terminada en vocal) poniendo (poniendo lo sustituiría por contratando, las empresas contratan no ponen) puros niñitos que no tienen experiencia en ventas ni en hablar con clientes.
decidi escribi aqui (Decidí escribir aquí) por que (porqué) me moleste en la manera en que hicieron las cosas (coma)
gracias por tu consejo (coma) mejorare (mejoraré)(coma) solo (sólo -sólo lleva tilde cuando se refiere a solamente) llevo 2 meses en havana (Havana -es palabra mayúscula-)
gracias (Gracias)
alex (Alex, es tu nombre, ¿como no lo pones con mayúscula?)

So, Alex, even in that little paragraph that you wrote in your native tongue you made plenty of spelling mistakes, as well as some grammar ones, maybe you actually speak better, but the way you write speaks volumes about you and your education, not to mention your communication skills. Specially when you are trying to make a point that you actually have communication skills. This makes you seem sloppy and careless, which is something that any employer will always stay away from.

Work on your writing skills and be patient when you write, specially when you are asking for a job. Again, MHO.

Brian H | 9 mei 2013

mmv3;
grammar

alex;
Your rants are very hard to read, and capitalization makes it even worse.

Pungoteague_Dave | 9 mei 2013

alex,

The more you say, the more obvious it becomes why you were not hired. It is NOT about your grammar. You are unemployable due to your arrogance and narcissism. Look it up. And get some help.

ian t.wa.us | 9 mei 2013

This thread has been enlightening. I'm sorry that Alex isn't willing to take constructive criticism regarding his written communication skills.

I'd like to add one more thing, Tesla is not looking for car salesmen for their stores. The official title of the in store folks is "Product Specialist". The description continues, "The primary goal of the Product Specialist is to provide a fun educational experience for customers who come into the Tesla retail store".

As far as I know Tesla is not even allowed to sell cars out of it's stores.

Cheers!

Brian H | 10 mei 2013

gone;
It can sell in states that don't have dealer protection laws. A "sale" is still mostly an online event, though. The store doesn't handle and bank payments, etc.

wojahn | 10 mei 2013

I have noticed that South America has been left out of the regions mentioned as being targeted for sales. I would agree there may be interest for Tesla products in that area. Just sayin...

Mmv3 | 10 mei 2013

Exactly my point!

Pungoteague_Dave | 11 mei 2013

wojahn,

Both Africa and South America are not in the TM business plan. It makes sense when we consider that 90% of world GDP happens in the northern hemisphere. The distances are great in the southern hemisphere, incomes a generally low compared to the rest of the indistrialzed world, and shipping costs are large.

frmercado | 12 mei 2013

@ Pungoteague_Dave

Where did you get those numbers? Could you quote your source? I highly doubt that 90% of the world's GDP happens in the northern hemisphere... BTW Brazil is the sixth largest economy in the world and Mexico the thirteenth (Bigger than Canada's); and what about the Middle East?

If Tesla is not targeting entire markets, TM should definitely at least try to target certain localized regions or areas within those markets or cities like Sao Paulo or Mexico City.

Mexico City had a gross domestic product (GDP) of US$390 billion in 2008, making the Mexico City urban agglomeration the eighth richest metropolitan area in the world; the city was also responsible for generating 21% of Mexico's Gross Domestic Product and the metropolitan area accounted for 34% of total national GDP.

Shipping cost large? Tesla gets a many of its parts from Mexican factories. Trust me, I'm sure Tesla is planning to hit Latin America soon, it would be a serious mistake to ignore this region.

Brian H | 12 mei 2013

frmercado;
The Middle East is entirely in the Northern Hemisphere. (The equator passes south of Africa's bulge.) China, the US, the EU, and Russia are all in the NH. So is Mexico, btw. You need some elementary geography learnin'.

PorfirioR | 12 mei 2013

It would be a tough sell to try to bring Tesla to most South American countries, particularly oil producers. Argentina might be one of the few candidates. Demand for electric cars cannot be created simply because the car is nice. Not yet.
That's not to say that some rich people here and there would not bring in a few Tesla's, but I doubt there would be any consistent demand.

The only southern hemisphere countries where I could see Tesla are South Africa and Australia where gas prices are above $5 a gallon and there may be enough wealthy people to generate decent demand. If Tesla ever comes up with a low-cost vehicle, you can throw in New Zealand to the mix - those folks are nuts about the environment.

As far as Spanish-speaking countries, I think we have to look on the Northern hemisphere. Spain might be it. Gas prices are ridiculous there. I could easily see a Tesla store in Madrid or Barcelona, but not until production numbers go way up years from now. Again, a cheaper model would do wonders.

frmercado | 13 mei 2013

@ Brian Touché. Though six countries in South America are above the equator and I am not counting Central America and Mexico (though sometimes these are considered as a part of South America), so are 70% of the African countries and to be fair 67.29% of land surface is on the northern hemisphere and only 32.71% southern hemisphere. I think Pungoteague_Dave's comment was referring more to general continental areas than hemispheres though. He made a statement implying that somehow Africa and South America were all in the southern hemisphere.

PorfirioR | 13 mei 2013

Mexico is in North America.

alexzone007 | 13 mei 2013

the first latin american country should be puerto rico we sell alot of european cars bmw and mercedes are top brands there is now tesla have the lease program and can do some charger stations would be a demand to start a club there but they didnt hire me i was coming with that idea jejeje

alexzone007 | 13 mei 2013

tesla needs to hire latinamerican people for the ones thay come to south florida and have a second home and they are going to hire kids there from the apple store i dont think so ...

rlarno | 14 mei 2013

alex, apart from not using punctuation, making your posts hard to read, you do not seem to get the general gist that people are pointing to:

Tesla is not looking for car salespeople. They are looking at product specialists. That is a term describing highly motivated people caring about the product, not the sale. Young people that are unencumbered by the classical knowledge of the ICE age. Tesla Model S has more the image of the latest new 'Tech Gadget' than of a car. What kind of people do you meet in e.g. Apple Stores? Slick salespeople with lots of experience with Mobile Phones and Computers? Of young energized friendly staff that help you discover what the product is and can do? The product sells itself, not the salesperson. George B. did invent that concept...

ps: my native language is Dutch.

alexzone007 | 20 november 2015

erased this thread