For $525,000 you can drive this Mercedes EV

For $525,000 you can drive this Mercedes EV

Mercedes released info on their new EV super car. It has an electric motor over each wheel, generates enormous torque and should be released this June according to the article found here: Unfortunately, it broke down during its test run, but not before it created a few smiles for the driver and reporter on board. Mercedes claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds and then claims it is the fastest EV ever. I wonder what the Tesla Roadster people think about this comment.

Electron | 07. mars 2013

The other car manufacturers are ignoring Tesla's existence in these kind of press pony shows.
See General Motors comments about how a 200 mile EV will be something totally revolutionary
from them that no one has ever done before and will require new breakthrough technology.

penguin_brian | 07. mars 2013

Why advertise your competition? Better to pretend it doesn't exist. Especially if you are a big car company.

jat | 07. mars 2013

Tesla is still in the first two stages with most car companies.

ghillair | 07. mars 2013

Where is the test drive report from Broder?? He will let us know how good it really is!

Brian H | 07. mars 2013

I don't think anyone dares laugh at TeslaMotors. Especially after the MT CoTY award. It would just sound too, too foolish.

GoTeslaChicago | 07. mars 2013

So that means we're still at stage one?

TikiMan | 07. mars 2013

Seems like everyone is jumping on the EV bandwagon lately... go figure.

I have to admit, as I speed by in the HOV lane, passing $100k Porsche's, BMW's, MB's, Fisker's, etc, that are sitting in 2 MPH bumper-to-bumper gridlock traffic, do think to myself I would be feeling really foolish if I were them, seeing a faster, and more high-tec similar priced car pass me by.

Brian H | 07. mars 2013

It's a unique situation. They're afraid to to stage 2, so we will transition directly to stage 3, for which they are totally unequipped and ill-prepared (and which is seriously non-PC), or stage 4.

Shakespeare | 08. mars 2013


Vawlkus | 11. mars 2013

For that price, I'd rather buy two Model S, two Model X and $125K in stock in Tesla }B)

jbunn | 11. mars 2013


Its not the beginning of the end yet for ice, but we are seeing the end of the beginning.

I took my dad out for a ride, and after he said... Thats just like a real car.
If I can translate for his sense of humor, that means..... Wow! I thought this would be some low performance, rattletrap of a plastic car that drives like a lawnmower.

And he came over for a ride the next three days as well.

Brian H | 11. mars 2013

Obviously, he's hooked. >;)

N8Tyler | 11. mars 2013

Is it me or is the car ugly? I love the shape and overall attractiveness of the Model S. Even if this Mercedes was priced competitively to Tesla I wouldn't want it.

nickjhowe | 11. mars 2013

An AWD model S would destroy the SLS. The P85 already matches it for acceleration to 60. Add another 200 BHP and 2 more driven wheels and.....goodbye.

Hills | 11. mars 2013

Daimler AG owns 4.25% of Tesla. Toyota owns part of Tesla as well.
Daimler ought to know what Tesla cars can do.

Brian H | 12. mars 2013

The AWD X has no more horsepower than the RWD. It's just distributed differently.

nickjhowe | 12. mars 2013

@Brian - Says who? I'm pretty sure the Model X info I saw said that although the rear motor in the AWD configuration is less powerful than the two wheel, the combined HP of both motors is greater than the single. Plus the AWD Model S doesn't exist yet. Nothing to say they have to copy the Model X. TM could put a 400 in the back and a 200 in the front.

Vawlkus | 12. mars 2013

It's speculation either way guys.

rlarno | 15. april 2013

Here is a newer video of a test drive:

I like the simple tech talk at the end. I also like that MB is doing this, it's sort of their version of the Tesla Roadster. MB does R&D on these supercars and then bring the tech into their models.

I'm really interested to see how the Model S will do in the EU, and Germany especially. And how MB, BMW, Audi and Porsche will react to the sales figures of the Model S. Will they bring something competitive to the market?

Oliver in Seattle | 15. april 2013

One of the big things about the SLS is the torque vectoring. This can only be done with four electric motors. Honestly it looks pretty amazing; basically it allows you to dial in exactly how much over or under steer you want in any given situation by varying the torque to each wheel (even going to reverse torque on the inside track wheels).

Other than this feature, I'm also a little meh on the car given the price bump from the Tesla offering.

Bperry01 | 15. april 2013

You think for 525k they'd make it look better.

vgrinshpun | 15. april 2013

Just another proof of the advantages of electric motoring beyond just efficiency. I can imagine how crude the vehicle stability systems of today, with ham-fisted pulsating inputs from the antilock braking system, will feel when stability systems based oh four wheel torque vectoring will become a commonplace.

I have few observations, however, that are not so favorable to MB:

MB seems to be a little late to the stage of demonstration project, about 5 years later than Tesla.

Battery capacity seems to be about 55kWh (based on Car and Driver article indicating three hours recharge using 22kW quick charge station - ) Tesla Model S that have approximately the same battery weight, beats capacity of SLS battery by whopping 55%

Tesla battery packaging (floor pan) is more utilitarian, allowing for huge amount of additional in-cabin space, while at the same time is better for dynamics and structural rigidity.

MB battery seem to be comprised of tightly packed prismatic cells, design that has been shown to be inherently unsafe due to possible heat run-away.

DerekCrosby | 15. april 2013

That color, the chrome with the blue makes me think it's a Smurf Oil Prince's car... that has to be one of the most hideous colors / paint finishes... on a Benz.

Why do people insist on making Electric cars "Stand Out" in a negative way ?

Brian H | 16. april 2013

Regular use mileage about 120. Passable. Barely. They shoulda had TM do the battery, or done it under license. Their design is second rate, at best.

ChristianG | 16. april 2013

The funny thing is that nobody in a Mercedes or BMW Article complains about the price tag, no matter how high it is. With Tesla they always tell you how expensive that is and with a price tag of 100k it's just not a car for everyone ...

TS | 07. september 2013

One of The first SLS AMG Coupe EV's has been sold to Norwegian Petter Stordalen , owner of Nordic Choice Hotels

Here is a "google translated" link to a Norwegian newspaper :
(His surname has been translated to Great Valley, speed reference is Kilometers , and price in Norwegian Kroner )
Pricetag $ USD is 550.000 and is taxfree. A little more then the SLS AMG petrol engine , but because of enormous Norwegian tax on fossil cars with this amount of power, the price difference in the US will be a lot more.

By the way, his pretty wife was one of the first Roadster owners in Norway, a doctor and fights against climate change..

Brian H | 07. september 2013

Almost 5X the cost of the S, seats two, and has surround-sound in the cabin to simulate engine sound.


jbunn | 07. september 2013

I'm really surprised that with all that power, it can't turn a 0-60 faster than 3.9. An S Performance+ does the same, I think but with over twice the range.

Does the button that makes engine noise also blow air though the cabin so I can feel the wind in my face? Ooooh that would make me feel like I'm going MUCH faster...! vroom vroom. What kind of an idiot wants this?!?

alcassfast | 08. september 2013

Thanks, jbunn.

I like Winston Churchill's quote, also.

TomasT | 08. september 2013

Mercedes Benz is making a version of it's flagship car an EV. This is a giant step in the right direction for everyone.
To me, it points out how clearly ahead of the game is Tesla with EVs. Except for the "Torque Vectoring" thing (which is really cool I must say) the rest of this SLS doesn't do anything that a Model S or a Roadster does better.

I have a feeling that Mercedes purposely lowered the performance of the EV to come under the ICE version of the SLS. It seems to me that with four electric motors they could've easily make it go faster than 3.9 secs. 0-60. Either that... or Tesla's technology is just better.

TeoTeslaFan | 25. kan 2014

I watched Chris Harris' video two times and I think this is the only other all electric car I find exciting except Teslas.

It has 250km rated range (155 miles) powered by a 60 kWh battery. It has 4 motors, one for each wheel. Torque vectoring is indeed very cool.

I wish Tesla would make another sports car soon. Ideally it should have at least 265 miles range, 4 motors, 2 seater, aggressive design, supercharger enabled, better interior than Model S, $200K price tag.

Tesla is taking too much time bring out new models while they still have the battery technology adventage.

J.T. | 26. kan 2014

@Teo Tesla is taking too much time bring out new models while they still have the battery technology adventage.

It's clear from that statement that you don't agree with the Tesla business model.

I was at a Simon and Garfunkel concert back in the 70s and at the end of every song people would start shouting out requests. Paul Simon finally responded. "Guys, we know what songs we're going to play. Nothing you shout will change the set list."

So, keep on telling Tesla what they should be doing, I'm sure they're listening. :-)

Red Sage ca us | 26. kan 2014

J.T.: Great comparison!

I've noticed that FiSHBONE feels the same way at their concerts. I mean, you can't really expect them to play 'Party at Ground Zero' every night... Can you?

minervo.florida | 26. kan 2014


Elon is moving faster on new models and superchargers, battery factories, etc. than anyone could ever imagine.

New car start ups take time, no way on earth can he go faster.

He has said all along that AFTER gen III then a updated model S, then a truck or sports car.

PaceyWhitter | 26. kan 2014

Wonder if this was using an MS battery? It states that the battery was 60 kWh and placed at the floor which lowered the center of gravity, sound familiar?

Red Sage ca us | 26. kan 2014

Nah, they said the cells are sourced through Korea. Tesla's cells come from Panasonic, so Japan, China, then Fremont.

Volleyguy | 26. kan 2014

Guys Teo is right. Tesla is not a big company with lots of talent resources. What Tesla has is the lead in EV's but even the fans have to admit they have been slow with the MX. How long before the E or whatever they call it will be out? I bet 2020? Even though this Mercedes is clearly out of price range even compared to Tesla it shows that big car companies are toying with the idea of making their "top" cars electric which is a threat to Tesla. As long as they keep making weenie mobiles as EV Tesla is safe.

Tesla is all alone right now but the question is for how long???

J.T. | 26. kan 2014

@Volleyguy And why do you think the MX is taking so long? Do you think it's all ready to go and they're just trying to generate pre launch excitement or maybe they wan to take their time to avoid some of the problems they had early on with the S?

zwede | 26. kan 2014

I actually like it. If it was painted silver or anthracite instead of smurf blue it would be a good looking car. The torque vectoring tech is cool.

I just don't understand the poor range. 250 km rated (155 miles), and that's the liberal Euro rating so EPA would be about 120 miles. In this price class they need to be at least on par with the MS85. Actually, they really need to be better than the MS85.

ScottyNeutron | 26. kan 2014

No startup car company can survive the long haul by focusing on $200K toys for the wealthy.

Tesla needs to focus on higher volume offerings such as the X and then Gen lll. Gen lll and the gigafactory will be the key. If they can generate enough market share with that car, the volume profits will give them the foundation they need to later do the low volume supercar.

SamO | 26. kan 2014

So a sports car . . . should Tesla just tell everyone with an order for a Model S to go jump in a lake?

How about the UK/HK Signature owners?

How about the 16K MX reservations?

Where do they get all these extra batteries? Panasonic is already producing as many as the can. Tesla's new supply agreement will kick in this summer, but you can't squeeze blood from a stone.

Tesla will make the most wicked Roadster 2.0 . . . after GENIII.

Remember the secret plan?

TeoTeslaFan | 26. kan 2014


It is not that I don't agree with Teslas business model. I do agree with Elon's three stage plan. But I think right now at stage two Tesla should have a sports car besides the sedan.

Elon himself recently said it was a mistake not to build the Roadster on a new platform. High priced sports cars don't sell in big numbers. Therefore battery supply wouldn't be a limiting factor.

Tesla's profit margin is 30%. They make maybe 27K per Model S. If there was a high priced sports car it would bring in more money per car.

I don't care about BMW i8 or other hybrids but Mercedes has shown that they can make an exciting pure electric car. That Mercedes is cool.

I wish Tesla had a sports car on sale right now. In a few years we will have MS, MX and Gen3 but no sports car. That's not very good. Usually sports car have the most advanced engineering and you want to have that knowledge and talent within the company to keep up with advancing technology.

Also sports cars help with branding and marketing. You can use a scaled down versions of that technology in lower models.

I think BMW with the i3 and i8 is using that idea cleverly. They have the cool and expensive sports car and then they have the younger brother that is slower and cheaper but somehow associated with the same excitement and technology.

Nissan has the leaf but they don't have a sports car version of the leaf which is too bad for their image. There is no excitement.

I think Tesla will make another sports car after Gen3. But I think it would have been better if they made it before Gen3 and before Mercedes comes up with a 250 mile version of their SLS electric.

Red Sage ca us | 26. kan 2014

Teo_ said, "I wish Tesla had a sports car on sale right now. In a few years we will have MS, MX and Gen3 but no sports car."

The Generation III will be a platform, not a singular car. There will be multiple vehicles built on the platform. I expect this will be Tesla Motors' bread-and-butter, full-line foundation for multiple configurations. That is, do not be surprised to see at least three different vehicles debut at once to launch GIII.

  • Sedan
  • Coupe
  • Wagon
  • Crossover
  • Minivan
  • SUV
  • Roadster
  • ???

Tesla will want any and all of them to meet the same exacting parameters as the Tesla Model S in regard to safety, reliability, and range. That will take time to accomplish.

Tesla can go upscale again with Generation IV. That is when you'll see what I imagine as a Model Z Supercar and maybe a Model L luxoliner.


Steve1501 | 26. kan 2014

@Teo - I concur with Red Sage. We are in stage 2 of Elon Musk's three part plan. There is no way for Tesla to get to stage 3 until there is universal product acceptability. Tesla has already proven that it can build a better mousetrap and can play big league ball. Now, to get to stage 3, it has to overcome major fights from the automobile dealer associations; have a national supercharger network firmly in place; and build an automobile at the cost point that the masses can afford.

Could you imagine a world had Preston Tucker found Elon Musk? Then again, could you imagine a world had Nikola Tesla found Elon Musk? Or could imagine living in the 21st century without an Elon Musk? We can all put together our wish list of what we want in a Tesla, but Elon Musk is light years ahead of anything that we can some up with.

Brian H | 26. kan 2014


They're dancing as fast as they can! I'll be very interested in what changes after the July factory re-tool!

AmpedRealtor | 26. kan 2014

I'd rather Tesla focus on getting to Gen 3 as fast as possible and at the lowest possible cost. I want Tesla to secure itself over the long term so that potential customers, as well as existing owners, consider Tesla's future to be secure over the long term. Everything Tesla has in terms of manpower and resources needs to be thrown at getting to that next model, in this case Model X.

Tesla can't afford a showpiece sports car right now because Tesla has to focus all of its resources on securing its survival. Once we get there, Tesla can consider building a car just for vanity's sake.

Red Sage ca us | 26. kan 2014

AmpedRealtor wrote, "I'd rather Tesla focus on getting to Gen 3 as fast as possible and at the lowest possible cost. I want Tesla to secure itself over the long term so that potential customers, as well as existing owners, consider Tesla's future to be secure over the long term."

Agreed. This is why I'm willing to wait. Oh, sure... I might still climb into a Model S of my own in 2015 or 2016 if the waiting gets far too unbearable... But my sights are set on getting a Generation III Coupe. I'm hoping for Falcon Wings, but will be fine with a hardtop convertible version. Whatever comes, I'm buying it. Then I'm going BMW hunting...

hcwhy | 26. kan 2014

Re: Mercedes SLS AMG E:

This really is a toy for the wealthy.

Volleyguy | 26. kan 2014

Wow you guys have really been in the Tesla kool aid.
JT I am not sure on the MX it is just slower than expected could be something to do with drag being bigger on an SUV and battery? Can they really do a MX with a 60 kwh battery? (with less range)
Then why is it taking so long to get SC's in Canada? Still 0.

Tesla is a great car and I can't wait for them to get SC's to Canada.

To think there will not be a response by the major car companies at some point...

You guys have Tesla at tons of models and no competition? (really)

On Saturday I happened to be in Waterloo Ontario and a Black MS passed me and then I drove by RIM Blackberry headquarters and remember it was not long ago they were unstoppable even the President had one... Things can change.

J.T. | 27. kan 2014

@Volleyguy Simply because someone takes Elon at his word that his plan is to develop and introduce the X, then build the battery plant, then introduce the GEN 3 does not mean that we're kool-aid drinkers. I'm not saying we arent, but it isn't for those reasons.

Yes, Tesla is ahead with this technology and it seems like they're doing well. But the way you stay ahead is to not make mistakes. It wouldn't take much for everything to fall apart. But, for the time being the only danger is from within, not from competition encroaching on their customer base.

They have to be careful, they have to be calculated and they have to be right. Everything is riding on it and right takes longer. Distractions like a new Roadster or a pick-up truck only divide their resources. They really need everyone pulling in the same direction.

I could use an artificially flavored refreshing beverage about now.