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Gas Station Blues

I am alone on this or does everyone else on the waiting list get the blues every time you have to fill up your car at the gas station?

I always find myself hoping that this is the last time I will ever buy gas even though I am only P446.

For the people who already have their S is it as awesome as it seems to wake up every day and your car is "full" and ready to go?

MandL | 30. oktober 2012

Yes. It's awesome. Back in June I drew a bunch of squares on my white board at work based on the number of times I expected to ever have to stop for gas again. It felt good watching them get checked off over the painful weeks of waiting. I actually had one left over when I finally got my Model S. Saving that for some day when I have to rent an ICE car for long enough that the pre-paid fill up option won't cover all my driving.

noel.smyth | 30. oktober 2012

absolutely, and down to two more oil changes! P6484

GLO | 30. oktober 2012

Yes, I think the gas "station blues" is the toughest thing I go through. I bought $60.00 in gas yesterday and sadly that will last only 7-8 days at most! Can't wait!!

rdravenelle | 30. oktober 2012

Definitely anxious to end the trips to the gas station and $50-plus fill ups every 5-6 days.

Bill in Austin | 30. oktober 2012

I had a Nissan LEAF for 15 months and just LOVED driving it everywhere (see http://billsleaf.blogspot.com)

The only time my Lexus (a really wonderful ICE car) ever left the garage during that time was when I had to make a road trip, and I probably bought no more than 10 tanks of gas during that entire period.

Then because I knew my Model S was coming soon, I sold the LEAF last month. Sad! Ever since then I have withdrawal symptoms whenever I experience the vibrations/background noise of my ICE, and it chaps me every time I have to slide my credit card at a gas pump.

When will Tesla get to my P#859? Waaaahhh.

TikiMan | 30. oktober 2012

I literally feel like I am being extorted when I fill up at the pump here!

In California we use a 'special gas blend' that is only refined here, thus the refinaries here can charge us whatever they want, whenever they want. Thus, over the last month, we have been paying the highest gas prices in the whole nation (second to Hawaii). We all know these refinaries have been gouging us, in-part because of the up-comming election, because they know California is a Blue State.

gagliardilou | 30. oktober 2012

I cant wait to stop going to the gas station. At my station, I get baraged with questions first before I can even get the gas! Do you have a gas station card? NO. Would you like a car wash today? No. I just want ot get some gas!!!!!!! Not too mention I am answering these questions in the freezing winter time too.

Last time I got gas, a lady and her approx 10 year old son were getting gas next to me and I mentioned in about three weeks, I will not have to ever get gas again!!! No more silly questions to answer!! She got a chuckle out of it then said she thought about a volt - it gets 75 miles a charge she said. No. I didnt have the time to educate her! Sad people think of the volt when thinking electric.

cerjor | 30. oktober 2012

GLO: At $60/week that's the order of $3000/year. That will take about 20 years to pay off the $60,000 Tesla.

TikiMan | 30. oktober 2012

Price of gas per gal... $4.50 / $5.00

Cost to drive 650 miles a week... $200.00

Speeding along at 85 MPH in the HOV lane during gridlock bumper to bumper LA traffic, and never having to stop for gas.... PRICELESS!

There are some things in life that waste a lot of time, the Model S isn't one of them.

GLO | 30. oktober 2012

cerjor: But an ICE car isn't nearly as much fun!

DTsea | 30. oktober 2012

Cerjor- What you mean to say, I think, is that a gas equivalent- say a Lexus or a BMW- would cost $50-60k; and they get 20 mpg- so on 12000 miles a year they use 600 gallons of fuel or about $2500-3000; whereas the Tesla, at $60k, will use 4000 kWh to go the same distance, at a cost of about $500-700. So, it takes about 5 years for the gas savings to pay the slightly higher cost of the Tesla vs an equivalent ICE car. To expect the gas savings to COMPLETELY make up for the cost of the car is not how most people are making the purchase decision.

Of course if you go for 85kWh it will take longer.

David M. | 30. oktober 2012

I've pumped gas for 37 years. The sign on the pump says "it's hazardous to inhale the gas fumes". I figure I've shortened my life by at least 6 months. Hopefully, I won't be pumping gas for the next 30 years. Except for an occasional rental car.

Amazing that all gas stations in New Jersey are still full serve. No smelly hands when stopping at a gas station on the way to eating dinner out.

Docrob | 30. oktober 2012

Cerjor, because the ICE car to out the gas in is free of course?
Ignoring for a second the fact that the Tesla is equivalent in terms of quality and performance to ICE cars around $50k. Even if the Tesla is chosen over a "typical" ICE, say a cruze worth $20,000 then the extra cost for the Model S is only $40k which will take ~12 years to pay back in gas savings. Compared to cars that are actually comparable in terms of quality and performance at worst it takes about 3-5 years to pay back in fuel savings and many vehicles the S matches in performance are already more expensive hen it right from the start.
So in fact the S can actually be cheaper within a vehicle lifespan then even a mid level compact sedan, and is definitely cheaper within its life then a full size luxury sedan it competes against.

Jamon | 03. november 2012

That dang orange "empty" light has been staring me in the face for days. In the month since I configured my S, it pains me more and more when I have to stop at the gas station. Tonight I drove 2 miles out of my way to find a gas station to fill up on my way home from the park with the kids. Fighting to drag the hose over the car, then holding the handle manually for several minutes so it doesn't retract and pull the nozzle out of the car . . . then my daughter asking "what is that stinky smell?". This has never bothered me before - until I realized there really is a better way. The electric vehicle is so REVOLUTIONARY in so many ways. I can't wait to leave for work every morning with a full charge!!

Jamon | 14. november 2012

Aaargh! Now I just got my smog test requirement from DMV. The time, the hassle, the cost . . . cars don't have to be this complicated!!

Kal-el | 14. november 2012
DTsea | 14. november 2012

Range anxiety to me is 'oh no I have to stop for gas.' The orange light. Can't wait to start every morning with a full pack!

Ceilidh | 14. november 2012

I have had the gas station blues with each fill up since I was old enough to drive. Every time I put gas in a car I wonder if my great-great-great grandchildren will be able to breathe, and these days I've added on concerns about killing our troops so I can run to the grocery store, etc.

Sorry to sound morbid, but I have been thinking about this since decades before I got on the Model S waiting list.

As far as if it has become worse since the wait for the S, not so much now that I put solar on my roof. For now I am banking energy that will be a credit towards a car I plan on rarely "filling up" with petroleum-derived energy. If I can avoid it entirely I will.

Perhaps then one of those grandchildren will have one less asthma attack or something and my environmental destruction karma can be mitigated.

Cheers

P912

SSL161 | 14. november 2012

My wife made the same comment just yesterday.

"Man! I can't believe that I have to gas up... again!"

Good news is, she only has to wait more month!

--- Cherif

Captain_Zap | 14. november 2012

I vowed to myself that I have already made my last stop at a gas station. My delivery window opens on Friday.

I don't want to stand out in the wet and cold holding that smelly noxious nozzle ever again!

Tesla, set me free!

Captain_Zap | 14. november 2012

For the record books I should mention that my last fill up was $87.

Brian H | 14. november 2012

Well, if you have to one more time, pull up to the full service pump and get them to check all the fluids.

portia | 14. november 2012

well people, it is worth the wait, you will be so happy when you get your Model S.
my new ritual is to get to the garage a minute early to unplug the car, push the coolest handle to open the door, get in the car to have the instrument panel come to live and do its flip of the middle display (if you know what I mean), and get out of the garage silently. Very Awesome!
i am especially happy when I drive by the gas station! Thank you Tesla, Elon and all!

Brian H | 15. november 2012

portia;
What were your res# and serial (VIN last 4 digits)?

Captain_Zap | 15. november 2012

@Brian

I haven't seen a full service station in the last decade, at least.

William13 | 15. november 2012

I had to take my Tesla to the gas station for air into the tires. The smell was horrible. Unfortunately I still need to help the wife and daughter fill up sometimes.

Tesla229 | 15. november 2012

You wanta know the ultimate irony?

On my way to the Supercharger event in October, I had to stop and put $86 worth of gas in my Lexus!

I've had my Model S for almost 3 weeks, now, and haven't been to a gas station since....

DouglasR | 15. november 2012

@William13,

The manual says never to put smelly air into your tires.

reitmanr | 15. november 2012

Ceilidh
+1
Thanks

Brian H | 15. november 2012

CapZap;
Posted this earlier, now gone:

"Here there must always be one designated pump for full service. Not the whole set/station."

ChristianG | 16. november 2012

Honestly.. no. Sure I'm all hyped about getting eventually a model S (when they finally come over to europe), driving electric, helping it to change the game a bit and so on...

But who cares about those 5 min wich are normaly right on the way to where I go, you eaven can fit in a bit of shopping in that time... America also has reeeealy cheap gas prices, I never get all your complaining about it. And as I'm one of those who drives a cheaper car now I'll never 'safe' any money on driving a Model S.

Also while with the Model S I'll charge at least 95% of all the energy from home. I do worry about the other 5%. There are possibilities to charge up the car in most parts. But as we are still early adapters you'll have to drive some extra miles to get there.. and stay there for some time. Superchargers will not be widely available any time soon here I guess.

So I feel that charging your car outside your home will be one of the greatest disadvanteges of the car.

Brian H | 16. november 2012

Christian;
Which would you rather spend: gas for 50 miles at $8, or gas for 300 miles at $3?

Europe is tiny. Distances are short. Infrastructure is everywhere.

Near Toronto, in the '60s a friend's parents visited from Germany, and took a "short" drive to St. Catherines, mostly between farms and vineyards along the way. They couldn't believe all the "empty land", which to us seems heavily occupied. It's all in Southern Ontario, the little projection down around Lakes Ontario and Erie, the densest population in Canada.

They wouldn't have survived the shock of a train or car ride right across Ontario, or up north through Sudbury, etc. Which is barely as far north as the Can-US border across the Western Provinces.

North America is bigger than you can possibly imagine. Fuel at European prices would make life almost impossible for many.

Volker.Berlin | 16. november 2012

North America is bigger than you can possibly imagine. (Brian H)

If that's not meant to be insulting, it sure sounds like it. Quite presumptuous in any event.

Fuel at European prices would make life almost impossible for many. (Brian H)

Bullshit. Not impossible at all, but different. How different, seems to be beyond your imagination.

Michael S | 16. november 2012

I still stop at gas stations (SIG vin076). I actually get a perverse joy in pulling up to a pump, getting out of my Model S, Using the restroom, buying a soda and getting back in the car, then silently speeding away. I think to myself "Big Oil can kiss my......"

sagebrushnw | 16. november 2012

V.B.

You've picked up some vulgar, distasteful American english. Sorry.

sagebrushnw | 16. november 2012

V.B.

Do appreciate your "help" on the form...just not the disrepectful language.

Volker.Berlin | 16. november 2012

sagebrushnw, point taken.

Captain_Zap | 16. november 2012

Christian has a good point. Gas is very cheap here in the US. Gas has been cheaper than bottled water. Cheap gas leads to different behaviors and economic situations that make us slaves to gas. I think that is what begrudges many of us the most.

Gas is so cheap that it costs us less money to drive 70+ miles round trip to work than to live close to where we work. I have known people that have done 200+ mile round trips to work because it was the most economical way for them to accomodate their life and work. (That was easier to do before all the traffic congestion.) That cheap gas drives a lot of addiction to fuel consumpton. Most of the West Coast was built after the car was invented so everything is spread quite far apart. At one point my spouse drove 40 miles north to work and I drove 30 miles South to work. Frequent trains are non existent where we are as well. (Hurry hyperloop!)

One of the many things I love about Europe is the ability to get around the cities and towns so efficiently by foot and by public transport or train. Our car culture is very isolating, inefficient and unhealthy on many levels.

Frankly, I am more excited about no longer being a slave to gas than just the annoying trip weekly trip to the gas station.

Luckily, my new car will be mostly running on hydro power so I won't be supporting any oil spills, excessively polluted runoff from roads, airborne pollutants, coal mining and political horse-pucky (is that less vulgar and acceptable?) that I disagree with.

sagebrushnw | 16. november 2012

8-) !

portia | 16. november 2012

@brianH I am S181and VIN 402, took delivery almost a month ago.

I am going on a long drive this weekend, 700 miles(1126 km) or mayby 1158 km=900 miles, depends on if I feel like going to Barstow, what 's there but the supercharger (the reason for that trip).
900 miles is almost the distance between Paris and Rome, but I am just doing a trip in California, things are more spread out in the west here, and Americans have cheap gas compared to Europeans and most other places in the world, so we are spoiled in a way, all is relative.

Love how convenient it is to travel by train in Europe and Japan. Love driving in Europe, not the gas price there. But the Mode S is a big car and I would probably get stuck in some narrow old town or parking elevator.

Volker.Berlin | 16. november 2012

But the Mode S is a big car and I would probably get stuck in some narrow old town or parking elevator. (portia)

True. That's definitely a concern for many European buyers (myself included), see discussion on power-folding mirrors...

Gator | 16. november 2012

The train system in England is great. Just walk to the local town's train station, hop on, get to the bigger station and take a faster train for longer distances. The car culture here is killing us. If we had trains, I would only need one car. I even shifted my hours to leave work after 6pm. No good, traffic has gotten more congested.

Anyway, back to gas stations. I wanted to add that I always make sure I do not pull into a Diesel pump isle. There is always a puddle of split diesel on the ground. Step in that, track it into your car and it stinks for awhile. Plus there are even lines to wait for gas nowadays. Not sure what is going on.

I would love to get a Tesla, it is pricy, if the Bamster can push for a $10K point-of-sale tax incentive, that would help. Financing through Penfed at 1.49% for up to $70K helps too. I confirmed, Penfed will approve a loan for the Model S.

Jewsh | 16. november 2012

I hear you guys. I paid close to $60 for a tank of gas in my Hyundai Accent just the other day.

My wife likes to rub things in when she knows something is bothering me. The grimace I made when I put my card into the pump must have given her the idea to ask, "How much longer for the Tesla, again?". Trollface.jpg...

Getting Amped Again | 16. november 2012

Volker.Berlin - just to balance this out. As another American, the term you used (IMHO) has a #2 rating on the way to "vulgar and distasteful":

1) Bullcrap (shortened to "Bull" sometimes)
2) Bullshit
3)
4)
5)
6)
7) Vulgar and distasteful

That term is used often by many Americans in daily life, and even in business situations if the speaker and receiver are friends and they are having a private conversation.

Probably bullcrap is better used for a public forum, but you've got a long way to go before you get to #7.

I know, off topic, but he has explained that this forum helps him understand the English language better and we're a pretty diverse group when it comes to all sorts of things, including cursing.

Volker.Berlin | 16. november 2012

Getting Amped Soon, now of course I'm curious to learn about the terms that would go into slots 3 to 7...! ;-) Where would "Bollocks" fit in your scheme?

Volker.Berlin | 16. november 2012

Is a mere "BS" more acceptable than the full-blown "Bullshit!"?

Getting Amped Again | 16. november 2012

Oh and one more thing, because sagebrushnw put the word "help" in quotation marks, most people would read that as him being disingenuous or sarcastic.

When making a critical comment, "Thanks so much for the help," is generally interpreted much differently than "Thanks so much for the "help"."

In spoken English, this difference would be implied by speaker's tone or facial expression, and that would convey whether their statement was sincere or not.

Getting Amped Again | 16. november 2012

I've actually never heard the word Bollocks used in conversation so I would guess it and B.S. are both #1's.

For me, #7's are terms that degrade a person's racial or ethic background, or their sexual orientation. These are particularly distasteful to me because they cut to a person's core being, which is something they had no choice in or control over.

I'm going to really get blasted for being off topic so I'd better make this my last post on this.

SSL161 | 16. november 2012

Possible cure;

I’ve considered stopping at a pump in my Roadster only to then speed away laughing manically for all to hear a number of times (but figured that it wouldn’t be a good Tesla PR move).

--- Cherif

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