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Retrofitted to new power folding mirrors today

Retrofitted to new power folding mirrors today

Van Nuys SC did it in a couple of hrs while they were replacing my MCU (bad 3G modem). They charged me $1500. For me, it was well worth it.

Thomas N. | 01. april 2014

$1500 for your mirrors to automatically fold in? What was your criteria for making this worth the cost and effort?

I ask sincerely because we have plenty of room in our garage and also have never experienced an issue where it would be a welcome addition when parking somewhere. To me it's absolutely a non-issue.

CalabasasKid | 01. april 2014

It's a big car as we all know. Even though my garage is fairly large as my house is only 9 years old, my kids often hit the mirrors of our Mini Countryman when opening the doors of the MS and vice versa. Being able to auto fold the mirrors of both cars mitigates that problem considerably. Besides, a car of this caliber really should have power folding mirrors. It just doesn't seem right being without them.

aheiche | 01. april 2014

I had mine retrofitted as well. It makes it much easier to fit into the garage with lots less risk of hitting the mirrors upon entry.

It was a tight fit before. The Rockville, MD service center did a great job and the new power mirrors work flawlessly.

NO2PTRL | 02. april 2014

Am I missing something here? I just took delivery of my Model S and there is a button to fold in the mirrors when pulling in or out of the garage.

chrisdl | 02. april 2014

Sterling:
Power folding mirrors are only part of the tech pack since October 2013, if I remember correctly. Many cars don't have them.

If you have a car with a VIN below P12142 you even need to double the retrofit price because the wiring harness needs to be changed as well.

akikiki | 02. april 2014

I did it too. No good excuse. Just did it for the cool factor.
Mine was delivered in Sep '13, just barely missed it being free.

redacted | 02. april 2014

@akikikiki, that would be "just barely missed it being free after price increase."

SDR06 | 02. april 2014

I am glad they at least allow you to retrofit the folding mirrors. I am going to get it done as well.

I am still very unhappy (can't be seriously unhappy with Tesla but...) that they can not find a way to retrofit the sensors !!!

zwede | 02. april 2014

I drove a 1983 Cadillac DeVille for 5 years. After that boat, the Tesla feels small. :)

HurricaneFodder | 02. april 2014

@zwede, was it a coupe or sedan? Either way it's hard not to love those cars. :-)

@ CalabasasKid, $1500 sounds fair considering the price increase.

kevinf311 | 02. april 2014

I'll be coming from a Lincoln TownCar myself. While considerably longer than the Model S, the TownCar actually rates slightly narrower then the S (with mirrors extended).

Currently, my TownCar fits by width into my garage (with a bit of clearance) but sticks out of the garage about a foot. It looks pretty silly, but the car is covered (solid pivot garage door vs. sectional roll-up).

With the folding mirrors I should be a much better fit in both dimensions.

CalabasasKid | 02. april 2014

I agree that $1500 was fair. I think it would have been higher had my car been built earlier than last August thereby missing some key harness. All they do is pop off the painted mirror caps, unbolt the entire mirror assembly and bolt on a new one and connect the wire connector. They pop out the drivers door switch assembly with the new one and voila. Done! Throw in a quick firmware tweak to allow auto close upon vehicle exit added to the settings screen and it literally takes an hour to do. Personally, I think it's a no-brainer. It's one less thing that critics of the car can point to the car lacking as well. I'm super pleased I did it.

Brian H | 02. april 2014

redacted | April 2, 2014 new
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@akikikiki, that would be "just barely missed it being free after price increase."

@redacted, that would be "now included". Almost always a preferable word when "free" is bandied about.

studiojon | 03. april 2014

I was quoted 2600 for both mirrors. My car is 21862 so only one month before the mirror option (I do have the parking sensors). Did everyone pay 1500? This seems like a big discrepancy... For 1500 I would have it done right away.

akikiki | 03. april 2014

redacted,

No sir, it wouldn't. There was no price increase between order and delivery for Aug-Oct cars. Ordered in Aug. Delivered 30 days later. If it had been delivered in Oct, it would have had the folding mirrors.

chrisdl | 03. april 2014

studiojon:

See my earlier post about this for details:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/power-folding-mirrors-retrofit-p...

The price may vary with a $100 or so, as we've seen before, but if your VIN is equal to or above 12142 you already have the new wiring harness so the price should be equal to what CalabasasKid paid.

My guess is that your quote is from before the retrofit was officially available (end of Februari 2014) or that they simply sent you a wrong quote. Either way, there has been a Tesla internal communication at the end of February, so all Service Centers should be aware of correct pricing.

talbryn | 03. april 2014

I am scheduled to have the power folding mirror retrofit on April 14th. The service center is in Watertown, MA, only four miles from my house. Like others, I have a tight fit going in and out of my garage which this should alleviate. Also, I agree with those who point out that a car of this class should have this feature. My VIN is 21612 and I was quoted $1500 plus possibly another $100 or so for labor. They are also going to install the new battery shield. And give me a car (hopefully another Tesla) to drive while mine is being worked on.

ks-man | 03. april 2014

I don't think the delivered in Oct. 2013 is correct for them being included as my car was delivered in mid-Nov P24176 and it does not include the folding mirrors.

chrisdl | 03. april 2014

ks-man:
To clarify: they are part of the Tech pack since October 2013, which means that if you have ordered a car after that date you have the power folding mirrors.

Other people may also have them if they called to change their order to the new pricing/tech pack, potentially delaying the delivery date of their car.

For example: my car was delivered in March 2014 and was in production in December 2013 and it does not have the power folding mirrors. That's because I ordered my car in August.

dschor | 03. april 2014

I am also waiting to be retro-fitted for the mirrors along with the center console. I'm assuming I'm on some sort of waiting list for both or do I have to call the service center? Obviously I will get the battery shield as well. Do the mirrors retract automatically when you park the car? I had that on my 2011 Jaguar XJ. Seems silly that Tesla wouldn't have had this option prior to now.

ks-man | 03. april 2014

@chrisdl
thanks for the clarification. I ordered mine in mid-Sept after the price increase. I don't remember seeing the change in the mirrors while i was waiting but obviously it happened. I'm not sure if I would have tried to delay to get it or not. It's easy now to think about waiting a couple more weeks but back then the wait was agonizing.

So I understand how it works, it sounds like there is a button near the drivers left arm or hand to manually trigger the mirrors to fold in. Also I'm guessing there is a setting that when you walk away from the car and the handles go in flush the mirrors fold in. I'd guess they fold out when the car unlocks.

Is this all correct? I doubt I'll pay $1500 for it but I want to get a full understanding of what the feature is. Thanks.

jcaspar1 | 03. april 2014

And they were not quite free. Tech package price was increased 250$ at the time the mirrors were included. 1500$ seems like a great price, especially if you get to keep your old mirrors and could sell them for 500$ or so. I received my car 11/4/13 without the mirrors and don't miss them.

J.T. | 03. april 2014

@chrisdl Thanks for relaying the VIN cutoff. Back in January I was quoted $3000 and forgot about it. After reading your info I called my local SC and they confirmed that I could get it done for $1600. Still not sure I'll do it, but it's something to think about.

Mathew98 | 03. april 2014

@JT - Your wife will never let your MS park in the garage. What's the point of retro fitting with the folding side mirrors?

You can use that money to buy another CF spoiler...

J.T. | 03. april 2014

It's the only way to give her my S if I get an X. Be prepared I always say.

Mathew98 | 03. april 2014

And knowing is half the battle...

elguapo | 03. april 2014

Rockville SC quoted me $2,300 for retrofit. As others have said, why should the price vary at all? I do have a sub 10,000 vin, but don't see why that matters.

AmpedRealtor | 03. april 2014

@ elguapo,

It matters because Tesla did not install the necessary wiring harnesses on cars in your VIN range. The additional hardware, plus time to install that additional hardware, is why you are seeing additional cost.

ERon | 03. april 2014

Cool.

Folding mirrors are not necessary often, but when they are they're indispensable.

Glad you're happy.

hsadler | 03. april 2014

After mirrors are folded, what is the next thing sticking out and how much space is created by folding the mirrors?

Mike83 | 03. april 2014

I'll wait till they remove the mirrors and put in cameras. But having the mirrors is something I am used to. But my bigger concern are cars parking too close and leaving dents. Maybe the mirrors prevent people from parking too close?

J.T. | 03. april 2014

The mirrors always folded, now they've added power. I don't believe any dimensions have changed.

akikiki | 03. april 2014

@J.T. You are correct. Nothing changed other than motorized swivel.

Pettifogger.ca.us | 03. april 2014

This page shows TM's accounting of the width of a Model S with mirrors open and folded:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/specs

With the mirrors folded the next-widest thing seems to be the rear fenders; I assume that the "Mirrors Folded" measure is across the rear haunches, but I don't know that for a fact.

xrayangiodoc | 03. april 2014

Just got mine today VIN 34330. Folding mirrors just seemed like a good thing to have. The 2002 Lexus LS430 I traded in had them standard. It also had, "Smart Cruise Control"! That's an option I hope I can retrofit in the future! If Tesla could buy the steering wheel and stalks from Mercedes I would imagine they could also get their Smart Cruise.

Jonathan C. | 04. april 2014

Here in Switzerland you can't have a car that size without folding mirrors... the parking spaces are just too small, you'll not get in, or somebody will just destroy them going out. Well done Tesla.

gasnomo | 04. april 2014

If your Vin is below 12000, the charge is 3600 (as quoted to me yesterday at my local SC), because older cars do not have the proper brackets built in...absurd IMO

Jesse K | 10. april 2014

:-( My Vin is 13905 and I was just told I do not have the wire harness needed for the retro fit and the cost would be Over $3,200. The delineation of 12000 VIN seems to be off by at least 1,905 vehicles. Disappointed, but oh whelp. Still the best car ever and will hopefully never purchase an ICE again regardless if the mirrors fold.

J.T. | 10. april 2014

@Jesse K You're in luck! Your mirrors do fold. You just need to exert a little effort. :-)

Kutu | 10. april 2014

A nice user selectable option would be for the mirrors to automatically fold when you open your garage door and unfold when closing.

Brian H | 13. april 2014

gasnomo;
What's "absurd" about an obvious statement of obvious fact? Get real.

chrisdl | 13. april 2014

Jesse K:
Very interesting. I'll update the original post about the retrofit pricing to reflect the fact that some cars may still need lack the wiring harness, despite having a VIN above P12142.

It is true that my SC did communicate that P12142 is the "target VIN", which may imply that there are exceptions to the rule. It's never easy, is it? :-)

Did your service center give any further information regarding your VIN vs the target VIN?

Car t man | 13. april 2014

It is a bit absurd, given the cost and non profit orientation of the
SCs. The 3600 price is an increase for what, 10-20 hours of work?
Does it take that much longer to put the mirrors in? And few wires?

chrisdl | 13. april 2014

I wonder why some SC's quote $3000, some $3200 and some even $3600 for the exact same amount of work and materials.

Tesla should straighten this out. The price should be clear and identical over all service centers. There is no reason why one should charge more than another.

And not only for the mirror retrofit, but for all reproducible tasks the perform.

Koz | 13. april 2014

Price should be similar across SC's but not necessarily the same. Tesla claims the SC's are meant to be revenue neutral but their labor and other costs are not the same. They may have individual load factors for each location.

chrisdl | 13. april 2014

SC's are not independent companies, afaik.
They are remote offices of Tesla Motors.

There's no reason that the same parts + labor price should be different in Tesla Motors location A vs Tesla Motors location B. My guess is that they're just missing some guidelines to make the SC's operate consistently, which is typical for a strongly growing company.

If I got quoted $3600 and someone else $3000, I would send an email to ownership asking clarification. But I'm not having the retrofit done, so I won't :-) ... I'm bothering ownership enough as it is.

Koz | 13. april 2014

Nothing wrong with calling to verify cost but SC's don't need to be independent companies to charge local labor rates. Labor is a big component of service work and it could be twice as much in NYC vs Arizona. Neither know how Tesla has it setup.

Brian H | 13. april 2014

Koz;
+1

set up (setup is not a verb, except in the sense of committing fraud on someone, slang use!)